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Lala Kent

04 Mar 2026

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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?

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I'll never leave your filthy bed. I'll stay the night and one night weekend, two or three years. The kids are not all right, but that's okay because no one here is.

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Hello and welcome back to Teen Beat with Danielle Fishel, a show where I, Danielle Fishel, invite interesting people to finally return a favor and share their awkward teenage stories with me, a former child actor who already lived out her own moments of puberty in front of millions of TV viewers. And so I look at it like this. I gave you my childhood. It's time we hear yours.

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And this week, I'm chatting to a reality television phenomenon, an actress, a singer, a podcaster, an author, a mother, and a former bar hostess who somehow flipped her struggling Hollywood dreams into an empire bigger than she ever could have imagined.

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Her time on Vanderpump Rules threw her into the spotlight, but it's her dedication to turn lemons into lemonade that made her a long-term fan favorite and the star of another show, Bravo's The Valley, which she currently calls home alongside best friend and crucial piece of the Scandaval puzzle, Tom Schwartz.

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She's as open on social media as a Chinese restaurant on Christmas, candid about her sobriety, cosmetic upgrades, and the beauty empire she's built, evolving from famous party girl into unscripted TV's cool older sister. But if you ask me, underneath the hip, beautiful exterior must live an awkward teenager just waiting to overshare with me.

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So this week on Teen Beat, I am thrilled to sit down with Lala Kent. Wow, that was like the most spectacular intro I think I've ever had in my life. I love it. Thank you. I'm happy to be here. Yes, I'm so happy to have you. I have to ask, as someone very fresh off the Dancing with the Stars live tour, I have to ask, how did you grow up in Utah and avoid ballroom dancing?

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You know, that never... That is so funny you asked that because that was actually like a main credit in junior high. And my dearest friend, after we graduated and, you know, we were done with our school years, she actually went back to teach ballroom. Yeah. And I just could never get into it. I don't know if I'm just... I'm just...

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I like to think that I can move and I like to think that I'm athletic until I try and I'm like, oh, I am so awkward. In my in my mind's eye, Utah's just filled with ballroom dancers everywhere you turn.

Chapter 2: What was Lala Kent's childhood like growing up outside the LDS Church?

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I mean, it just seems like that's a breeding ground for ballroom dancers. No, it's totally true. Yeah, it's pretty. I mean, I know that it's supposed to be because I think BYU added it as a major and then basically it just kind of it took off. Yes. I like to be the rebel. Yeah. Now, like when everyone's raving about a TV show, I wait until no one raves about it and then watch it.

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Yeah, you know what? I'm not that much different than you. I also am that way. If everyone's making a big fuss about something, I'm like, okay, everyone settle down. I'm not trying to go against the grain. I'm like, look, I'm willing to watch it. I just don't want to watch it while it's all the rage. Exactly. I wait for things to kind of calm down.

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So now that I'm out of Utah, maybe I'll get into ballroom dancing. Well, would you ever do Dancing with the Stars? I have always said that that would be the one show that I would say no to. And here's why. Listen to me Dancing with the Stars because I'm so intimidated by it. Really? Yes. It would take me out of my comfort zone in such a way that I think I'd have a panic attack. Yeah.

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But this new mindset that I have taken on where it's like, I want to be uncomfortable. Now I want to say, if that opportunity presented itself, I think I would be all in for the mere fact that I want to feel uncomfortable so badly. Yeah. You'll definitely feel uncomfortable. Yeah.

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It's in a, I mean, I loved every single second of it, but there's no doubt that it is, you know, it's, it can be uncomfortable and you are working your butt off. And if you're like me and have, I had never even taken a dance class before doing dancing with the stars. So like, I, I was starting from zero, zero. And so, yeah, you're out of your comfort zone.

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And then, you know, I am, I'm a perfectionist. And so for me, having the cameras on all the time and being miked all the time, which you are probably used to, I am not. I felt like, okay, you know what? I could really actually learn this dance if we got the cameras out of here and we got this mic off of me. But like, it just feels so weird to know you are being watched.

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while you're learning something that's very vulnerable. You know what though? Even though I am used to being mic'd and just like living and existing, it's similar to like if you were to mic me and put a camera on if I were going on a date. Yes. I can't do this even though I think I know how. If you're watching and listening to everything, it would be the same with dancing.

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And I remember seeing you at the iHeart party, and this was probably in October. And you said it was the most difficult thing you've ever done, but you were having the time of your life. You had pulled a hamstring or something. Uh-huh. You're exactly right. Yeah. I had just come off of a massive injury and I was like, don't want to ever stop. Going to do it every day for the rest of my life. Yes.

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You were having the best time. And you know what? I think if I allowed myself to say, you're going to be uncomfortable, but you're going to do it. I would feel so accomplished. Yeah, yeah, you definitely would. Well, I really do think you would be quite an asset on the show. And I think knowing how incredible the show was for me, I would love for you to have that experience as well.

Chapter 3: How did Lala Kent transition from reality TV to building a beauty empire?

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I love it. I know your dad had been a part of the Mormon church, but he left before you were born. What was it like growing up surrounded by the LDS community, but not actually being a part of it? Was it harder for you to make friends, do you think?

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It was strange and it was difficult because even though my dad left the Mormon church when he was 22, which was well before I came into the world, there were so many things that you could tell. And I'm trying to be very respectful that he clearly had been told his entire life that we're not good. And that's evil. And don't do that.

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Where it was almost like I had to coach my dad through those moments of like, it's all good, man. Like, let it go. This is not determining whether you go to the highest kingdom of heaven or not. But I kind of gravitated towards people who also didn't have Mormon families. And, you know, my mom was raised very Christian and my dad was raised very Mormon. And I think they...

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came together and thought, let's just raise our kids with spirituality. That was very heavy in my household is we said our prayers every single night. When things got tough, we turned to God, but it wasn't in a way that is organized religion, if that makes any sense. Yes. Um, and you know, my mom didn't, my mom didn't try to keep us away from the Mormon church.

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If I had a group of friends in elementary school and they went to young women's and they invited me, my mom would say, go like have fun. I didn't even realize that it was like a Mormon thing. Right. It wasn't until my grandmother took my little brother to church one Sunday and And he came home with a matching game, which was basically the sequence of events that happens, right?

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Which was like, go on a mission, temple marriage. And that's when my mom said, we will no longer be sending these kids to anything that has to do with this church. Okay. Yeah. My parents were kind of similar. Both my parents were raised pretty strict Catholic. Okay.

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And so they had been kind of indoctrinated into this idea that to be a spiritual or a God believing in family, you also had to be a part of the Catholic church. And that meant, you know, school, I went to... I can't even remember the name of it now, but I went to that school where every Wednesday we had to learn about Catholicism, catechism.

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We went to that every Wednesday and we went to church every Sunday. And my brother and I complained about it every single week. And my parents, to their credit, realized they also really did not want to be doing this. They were only doing it out of guilt and the way they had been raised. And so they realized like, I don't think the organized religion part of this is what we're believing in.

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I think it's just a belief in God. And so my parent, we similarly no longer went to the Catholic church. And for us, it was a moment when my grandfather realized that, there was like some issue with the, he was paying for school and something happened where he realized all they care about is money. This Catholic, the Catholic church is a money-making enterprise. And that was it. He was done.

Chapter 4: What challenges did Lala Kent face during her experience on Dancing with the Stars?

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Yes. And there is a before and an after in your life. Exactly. So I was so, I'm so grateful that my first time being intimate with somebody was just that it was intimacy. It was partnership. Um, And, but after him, man, I was, I was ready to rumble. Oh yeah.

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I mean, at least if you're going to say after that you were ready to go, you were 17 to 20, you're in your twenties, which is college age is the perfect time to really, that's where you have, that's where, you know, the biggest opportunity for self-discovery comes about. It's for a lot of people, the first time you're out from under your parents' roof.

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And you're making your own decisions about who you're going to hang out with and when you're going to come home and who you're going to go on a date with and when, when and where those dates take place. So yeah, all of that. All of that makes sense. I was also boy crazy starting in elementary school. I had my first boyfriend that I remember was not long distance.

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And he if he did end up having a crush on someone else, it would have been on a boy because he is gay. And it was pretty obvious he was gay then to everyone except me. And but, you know, that did pretty much just set me up for moving forward. I have always loved gay men. Oh, don't. You and me both. Yeah. Love, love a good gay guy. I just think they're wonderful. Girls and gays.

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I'm in my happy place. Same, same. Great people to be in relationships with, honestly. My husband and I watched Love, Loathing, and Vanderpump, the documentary, The Randall Scandal. We watched it. And our main takeaway from it was, how do men like him still find beautiful women who will date them? He is with someone right now. How do men so easily fail upwards?

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I think for him, he has really conquered an art. And that is going for... girls, not women, who are easily impressionable, don't have much life experience. You say the word Chanel and you've got them. You say the word movie producer and you've got them. You don't do much research. You just see the shiny object. And I think he knows exactly who to prey on. Right.

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And I think he thought when he met me, I'm a girl from Utah. I don't think he ever anticipated the strength that I have. Right. I think I really shook this man to his core. Yeah. Yeah. Which makes me very proud. Good. Yeah, you should. You should feel good about it. So thanks to Vanderpump Rules and The Valley, you are surrounded with drama and gossip.

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In high school, did you, were you a part of any scandals or love triangles or was that just something you ran into later in your life? You know, I think the typical scandals that, especially growing up in Utah, everybody knows everybody. And I thought moving to LA, it would be different. It actually feels smaller. Smaller. I know everyone knows everyone. It's freaking smaller.

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Social media was not, I wasn't on social media. I don't know when you got it. I remember getting my first, I had downloaded Instagram a few times and then thought this is so dumb. I'm deleting it. It wasn't until I got to LA and started wanting to be in the industry again and getting the bug where I was like, oh, I guess social media is kind of needed now. Yeah. Oh yeah, for sure.

Chapter 5: How did Lala Kent's upbringing influence her friendships and social life?

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I loved my Dockatot. And I got paid to do an ad for Dockatot on Instagram. They were totally fine with the fact that I don't show my kids' faces. Everything about it was a perfect partnership. And yet, any time I've ever had to go post an ad, I immediately feel cringe. I'm just like, I can't believe I have to do this. People are going to think this. And yet, I love Dockatot.

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love the thing I'm advertising. Totally. You are so seen. You are seen. What is that? Why? I don't know. I just feel so, I don't know what that is. It's just an internal battle that you have to get over and it's you, there's nothing you can do to work on it except for you're doing it and it's out there and get over it. And I do love these things. I stand by every single thing. Liquid IV.

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I freaking love it. I take it every day. It's my Samsung phone. I've been a Samsung user for 12 years. Like I don't do ads for things unless I love them. So why do I feel bad telling people when I love something? I know it's probably because at the end you have to like direct people to a link and then you've lost me. I'm like, now I feel like, and you know, the comment section can get to you.

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Yeah, it's true. It's true. I think also it comes back to my somewhere for me. It's asking anybody for anything ever makes me feel worthless. And that's it. That's not a good way to feel like we need community. We need help. It takes a village, all the things I know and would say to other people. But when it comes to myself, I think I am supposed to be fully autonomous and a one woman show.

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And if I don't do every single thing myself, then I'm somehow failing or I'm draining resources that other people could be spending doing something else. And so even though I'm just telling you, I like this brand, this brand has made my life better. It feels like I'm asking people for something. And I think it goes back to that. That would make total sense. Yeah.

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Thank you for working that out with me. You're welcome. I'm always here to listen to you. I feel that way with men. I don't need you to buy me anything. Don't take me to dinner. You don't need to call my Uber because I don't want to owe you anything. Right. Right. Yeah. So it sounds like we both have our issues.

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We both have some issues, but you know, maybe if we just talk more, we need to, we need to make this a regular, a weekly thing. I love it. So now you are hosting an unlikely affair alongside Amber Childers, someone who was wildly entangled in your past relationship. Have you always been able to mend fences with people? Do you easily forgive? I don't hold a grudge.

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I think if a productive conversation is had, I can move on pretty quickly. I don't have any problem taking accountability for my part. I know it sounds so cheesy because people say it all the time. I know I am not perfect. I am a lot to handle. I can be a loose cannon, which I'm working on. But I never understood that saying, I'll forgive, but I'll never forget.

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I'm like, well, what's the point of forgiving then if you're just going to remember the whole time? So I forgive, I forget, I move on. I love that. And I think again, I'm very similar. Very similar. I love that. I really do.

Chapter 6: What are Lala Kent's thoughts on the rise of Mormons in pop culture?

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Absolutely. So if that works, because here's the thing, with the tummy tuck, you run the risk of funky belly button. I know. And the belly button that looks like everyone else's belly button and a scar hip to hip. Yeah. Yeah. Do the Morpheus. You know what? I have a pre-op call for my, I'm getting my boobs redone. It's like reconstructive surgery.

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Maybe I'll ask them if they can smack my stomach with that Morpheus. Maybe I'll be reporting back to you because my boob job is March 16th. Wow. Okay. And that was this your third? It's my third. It's a revision. It's okay. Tell me, because I don't, I'm only thinking about it. Tell me, do you, looking back, do you wish you had ever had your boobs done?

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Could you imagine a time, could you imagine a world where you're like, yeah, I would absolutely do this a hundred times over to have these results? What's your opinion on the boob job? I love the boob job. Okay. I love the boob job. I wish I wouldn't have gotten them done at the age of 20. I felt like that was completely unnecessary and silly and stupid. Right.

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Um, but I'm all about the boob job and they've come so far, uh, with the technology as far as like making the implant. Yeah. Um, I say life is short, get the boob job. Life is short, get the lips, but you don't need the lips. No, these are mine, but I, I do. I am, uh, I'm at definitely at a place, um, post cancer, post two children. How did I not know that? Yes. Cancer 2024.

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Just fresh out breast cancer. Breast cancer. So I have a I have a two pretty large scars on my right breast where I had two lumpectomies and a lymph node removed and the lymph node had no cancer in it. But but it's you know, you have to have it removed in order to make sure the cancer hasn't spread. And and then with the weight loss and with two children who breastfed. Yeah.

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I don't recognize what's going on anymore from, you know, chest to below my belly button. No clue, no clue whose body this is. And so I've recently started thinking, I think I would feel significantly better about myself if I had some sort of breast lift and or got rid of this extra skin. And yet I struggle very much with the idea of, That that is also a little bit insane.

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Like, my husband is not looking at me saying to me, you hideous beast. Right. I am only saying that to myself. And like, that's probably coming from a really unhealthy, not evolved part of my brain. Right. And my personality that I would probably be better working on in therapy. And also, like, it... How often is anyone going to see that?

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Like, I do think, well, it would be cute if I could like wear a cute little crop top every now and then, but I would never. Right now, I wouldn't be caught dead in a crop top with my loose stomach or in a two piece. And yet I'm taking my kids on a wonderful vacation for spring break. And I think, look at all these cute two pieces. They're cute on other people, but they wouldn't be cute on me.

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So then I struggle because I'm like, maybe this is more of a therapy thing than a surgery thing. But I do know I would feel better if I had the surgery. All right, you're not gonna like what I have to say. Number one, I'm so grateful you're okay. Okay, yes, yes, me too. Thank you. The second thing. I remember going in.

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