Chapter 1: What do Will and Rider think about binge-watching The Traitors?
Welcome to Pod Meets Twirled, a podcast from two guys who had never seen an episode of Dancing with the Stars, but took it on and walked away experts. So now we turn to Traitors, another show I've never seen, while Will is convinced he could win it. We are Wilfred L. and Ryder Strong, two best friends, one a TV expert, one a TV skeptic, both dance scholars.
Join us as we step into a castle full of lies, alliances, and over-the-top wardrobe choices. This is Pod Meets Twirled Trading Places.
Ta-da!
They always do the big dramatic cloak reveal. Yeah, they can't just take their cloak off.
I think the turn is good. Do the turn. Do the turn.
Well, that's my emperor. Yeah, the emperor. Young Skywalker.
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Chapter 2: How does Rider feel about Michael Rapaport's character on the show?
I'm afraid the deflector shield will be fully operational.
All right, visual jokes on a podcast. Way to go, guys. Yeah, we love it. That thing behind you is so funny. I know. Look at this face I can make. All right. Woo. Traitors. Oh. Man, I'm in deep. You're sucked in, right? I'm sucked in, but I'm also, I'm having lots of strange feelings.
Okay. And we can talk about it. Let's talk through them. Yeah.
Let's talk it out. You know, like, I just have a complicated relationship with reality TV in general. Sure. I was one of those people who really, really hated it. Me too. 100%. Yeah. And, you know, partly because it... You know, it was killing our industry. Still is. Yeah, still is. But when we were finishing Boy Meets World, reality was ascendant.
Like, do you remember, it was like a big deal that the game shows were coming back. Yeah. Because Who Wants to Be a Millionaire was taking off and they decided to put it on every night. Yep. And so like shows, like traditional television shows with writing and acting and all of the things... Was too expensive. And those jobs started going away.
And then we had the strike, the writer's strike, the old writer's strike. There's been so many now. There's been so many. I know. Anyway, I, you know, so I was always pretty negative, you know, about it for that reason. But then also just the culture, the culture of reality TV, I never really liked it.
I agree. There's very few traditional quote-unquote reality TV shows that are upbeat and happy. It's all about backstabbing and drunkenness and, you know, getting arrested. Sue and I, because we're gluttons for punishment, are re-watching Jersey Shore, the original series of Jersey Shore.
Oh, see, that's the kind of era that I was likeā And it's magically, wonderfully awful. Yeah, seeā But I guess I like, you know, Survivor was the only time I really embraced. It was like while my wife was pregnant, for whatever reason, she was like, let's watch Survivor. And I started getting into it then. So that was 11 years ago, 11 and a half years ago.
And I got really into it and I could see, you know, I could see it as like a sort of a physical challenge that was cool. And it never felt, I don't know, that show always felt wholesome in a way that other reality shows didn't. Anyway, long way to say, during this episode of Traitors, I found myself wanting Michael Rapaport to be awful because it was entertaining. Right? And it worked.
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Chapter 3: What are the dynamics of being a traitor versus a faithful in the game?
It's like we're almost like it's excitement and energy more than like being a good person or being clear about what you're saying. It's more just like, let's just watch fireworks, like human fireworks, like bombs going off. And I just hate that I started to feel that. I know.
Well, it's just, it's also, it's so much easier to hate than it is to love. It's so much easier to destroy a house than it is to build one. That's just the way it is. And so we're kind of always appealing to the lowest common denominator, which is one of the reasons that Sue and I really have our reality TV, other than Traders, which is a total guilty pleasure thing, is really...
uh, skill based or talent based, right? Like chef shows, chef shows, or maybe an occasional singing show like dancing with stars was, that was interesting to me, like how you have to learn the process and learn all about this kind of sub world and all that stuff. That's really cool. And that's one other reason why we love the great British bake show.
It's just people baking that are helping each other. It's really nice. Right. But this is, I mean, again, with all the stuff you're talking about with Michael, he, Most people don't go to NASCAR to watch the cars go around in a circle. You go to watch the crash. They're waiting for a wreck, yeah. Of course. And that's what it is with this. And you're sitting there, you're hoping.
It's funny, an article came out. I'm going to misquote it and I don't know who wrote it. So, you know, essentially all the news nowadays, I read it once online. So now I'm talking about it as if it was a real thing. But somebody wrote an article about how great it was to have quote unquote TV villains back. Right.
With Michael, talking about Michael Rapaport, where it was like, it was a joy to have this back. And I was like, is it?
Yeah.
Yeah, I mean, this show is so interesting because it's like, it seems to constantly be like... you know, in really what it is, it's a role-playing game. It's just playing D&D. Yeah. It's a murder mystery. Yes.
Weekend night. Yeah. Weekend. Right.
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Chapter 4: Why do Will and Rider believe reality TV impacts viewer behavior?
And the problem is we are making them, this is what this is. This is D&D, a role-playing game coupled with alcohol, coupled with the unwarranted arrogance of quote-unquote celebrity.
Right.
So you put it all together and it's just a beautiful mess of an awful symphony of gorgeousness. So, yeah. And it just, it does. It sucks you in. You don't want to watch and you can't look away.
It's awful. All right. Well, in the breakfast room, Ron was the first faithful tied to a tree from the night before who showed up and wasn't murdered. They started asking him questions about what happened and,
smart by the way you got to see if everybody gets their story straight totally totally um and then lisa walked in um and she she is one of the traitors and uh really a bad liar i hope they and i was like maybe she told the best story in the world and they just edited it to look like she couldn't do it i had the same thought because they added all those extra pauses and
I mean, that was no one would have believed her ever, ever with that story. It was like, dude, come up with make up something. Think a little bit. I know it was bad.
But but yeah, she just she also just like overdid it. You know, she's like talking too much.
And it's like, oh, you are a lie. Simple. It's the easiest thing to do. Right. Right. Simple.
I couldn't believe no one really caught on to it. I mean, I know, like you're saying, I think there was some selective editing going on, but even with, he just took what she was saying, like the way she was getting so into it, I was like, uh, okay.
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Chapter 5: How do the contestants strategize during the game?
He's so cool. I feel sorry for him, man. I do, too. I'm watching this going like, why do they keep going up against him? And he's like, he doesn't give them any reason.
How do you play if every time you open your mouth, somebody thinks that you need to be kicked off, which is where it is with him now. It's like he can't even like, well, here's the thing I saw. It's like, I don't trust that Ron. It's like, oh, my God, how can I even say anything anymore? I guess just get there early, eat the smoked salmon that apparently everybody wants.
Yeah. There's like this low key, like B plot going through the whole episodes now about smoked salmon.
About smoked salmon. You're in Scotland. Just go outside. You literally just hold your hand up and a salmon comes into your hand. It's that easy.
Like, can't they just provide more smoke? I'm hoping there's a payoff to this by like the next episode. There's like another, like an extra plate.
It's just a room of salmon. Yeah. How hard is that? They all want smoked salmon. It's pretty much it's obvious.
Yeah. And then Michael Rappaport talks a little bit about his tone and how he how he talks, which is it is sick. He has a very like, you know, shit talking tone and he just doesn't shut up. How long did that last?
He's like, I'm going to change my ways. That was like a minute, two minutes. God. Yeah. He is a character.
yeah um all right well then eric comes in and he was you know up for murder uh too and he tells the camera not the the crowd but he tells the camera that he had heard a laugh yeah so immediately i thought this was gonna pay off me really i was like that's pretty because i mean a laugh is very specific and like he says later in the episode he's a musician but so i was stoked on this i was like again that's actual evidence it's not just like
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