Chapter 1: What are the hosts' initial feelings about the final season of Boy Meets World?
This is an iHeart Podcast. Guaranteed human. Well guys, it's here. Yeah. Yeah. The time has come. A moment we've at one time felt like would never arrive. Yet we knew it would at some point, no matter how much we dreaded it. It is time to recap the seventh and final season of Boy Meets World. Dun, dun, dun. Are we here already? Are we here already? I don't know. We just started this journey.
Seriously. A grouping of episodes that at least two thirds of performed in while out of body. So what would you say are your feelings going into this seventh and final season? I'm nervous. Yeah, I'm not. I'm sad that the podcast, this aspect of the podcast is ending. Yeah. I mean, again, we're starting the final chapter. I also... And we'll get into it.
Obviously, watching the first episode of Season 7 was very difficult for me. Really? Oh, yeah. This is the low part of my life. And this was a really—I didn't think I was going to be there. So this was a very—this was a tough watch for me all the way through. So starting Season 7—and I know it'll get better, but starting watching this was rough for me. Wow. Yeah, this was a—
This was a, this was a, this was a tough year in my life. So yeah. What do you, can you explain it for our listeners a little more? Well, yeah. I mean, when I started the podcast, I had, I was maybe six weeks, sorry podcast, started the show, season seven, I was maybe six or eight weeks into anxiety, which I'd never experienced before in my life. So I still wasn't talking about it.
I had just, I'd been on medication for maybe a month, which is why I'd put on so much weight. But I, my life was spiraling at this point. I mean, badly.
So it was, I mean, that wig that we wear, I was going to get into it, but I remember being called in to have the wig fitting and going to Lori's house and Karen McCain was there and they were just talking, having a conversation and I had a massive panic attack in the chair, which was just... was happening every 10 minutes in my life at this point. It was just, it was awful.
And so I just still not talking about it, put a smile on my face, excuse myself. I went to the bathroom and essentially had it broke down in, in Lori's bathroom. And I was like, was literally considering climbing out the window where I was like, I can't do this. I can't go back to the show. If I can't be in front of these two people that I know and love, I can't be in front of an audience.
I can't do this. So it was, this was a horrific time. What's crazy. What's crazy about that for me is like, I had no idea. When I think back at this time, you were always Mr. Positive, super funny and just on. The best acting I've ever done in my life is not letting people know that I was literally dying.
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Chapter 2: What personal stories do the hosts share about their summers?
Because you and I spent a lot of time together season seven. Most of my memories of backstage are you and me. I don't remember any of the show. Like when I saw this episode, I was like, I have no, I know, I know we've said that about previous episodes and previous seasons. I have no idea what's coming in season seven because I can't remember a, Oh, the civil war, the civil war episodes.
I remember, I remember those. So, but other than that, I can't remember what happens to our characters. I don't know what happens to Sean, to Corey, to like all this stuff with Topanga's parents. And this episode, I was like, whatever the wedding, right? Oh, right. Right. But yeah, like, but I, like break up the wedding or I like freak out at the wedding.
I don't remember why, why is Sean freaking out about the way, like, cause he thinks, I think it's, we do this. Did we do this at our live show? I think we had to look it up. Cause I don't remember. I know that I have like a speech at the wedding, but I don't remember why or yeah. No, this was a heavily medicated both by a doctor and self-medicated with alcohol year for me.
And it was just, that's why I was putting on weight and just trying to get through my life at this point. I was having so much fun with you. I know, I know.
Chapter 3: How does the energy shift in Season 7 of Boy Meets World?
We were running around filming our behind the scenes stuff. We were. We were laughing. I mean, I feel like you and I, and were we also going to, because you had a place up in Arrowhead. And I think it was on this year. We went several times. Yeah, this is where we went up there. Spent time in Arrowhead.
But I remember, oh man, there were drives to Arrowhead where I had to pull over every 15 minutes because I was freaking out. I was like, I shouldn't be in the car. I shouldn't be driving. No, this is arguably the worst year of my life. Just mental health-wise. So a fun way to start the episode and the season. Yeah. Which is always great. But yeah, so this was just watching the episode.
And frankly, we'll get into it later. I liked the episode. I was pleasantly surprised by the episode. I really liked the episode. It was just personal. That's interesting. Yeah. By the way, Ryder. Yeah. You're fantastic. So good. In this episode. What? So good.
Chapter 4: What challenges did the cast face during the filming of Season 7?
Really? So good. Fantastic. You are the star of this episode. And yeah, really. I did not feel that way. Really good. I thought it was great. I felt like we were all, so by this point, I think, and I hope I'm not ruining everything that we're supposed to talk about later, but this was the first season since the first season that we had only been picked up for 13 episodes. Oh.
So we were not picked up for our full 22. We did not think we were going to be doing a full 22. But we had to remember the wedding was coming, right? We knew the wedding was planned. I think we knew the wedding was coming, but I think there was a chance that was going to be the end. Right. Was like, we're going to end with the wedding.
And then because remember, you and I were shooting our behind the scenes thing. And then when we got picked up for our back nine, we put it down. Oh, we got more time to finish it. Right. But we so we were actively making each other try to laugh and enjoy ourselves while we were shooting this. I could tell Ben's putting on funny voices and doing different accents. Everybody's trying not to laugh.
We're just being with each other. And it was almost tongue in cheek for ourselves. And that I loved. So, I mean, the episode itself was great. It was just going back down that road. That's interesting. I really did not like the episode. Oh, you didn't? But hearing you say that, I was like, yeah, I guess we were having, like, I could feel that watching it. Like, yeah.
But no, story-wise and character-wise, I was really not into this. Yeah, it didn't bother me. I guess I just didn't care. I was too watching, again, just how big I was and how dead behind the eyes I was and then trying to hide it by being bigger with my comedy.
So I always think that's one of the reasons people, I had a weird realization last night where people were like, why did Eric get so dumb and so big? And part of me is wondering if one of the reasons is because I was so dying inside that I was pushing it every week. Like, I'm fine. I'm fine. Of course I'm fine. Look how big the comedy is.
And I was like, oh, my God, I wonder if that's why I was doing it. I mean, it definitely is true that the I mean, my story Topanga storyline is so insufferable. It kind of is. Yeah. And played out. Yeah. I just didn't care. I don't. Why would we care? We barely know you and we definitely don't know your parents. And you guys were okay with the B story of Alan suddenly cracking down on Morgan?
Like, what? What I was okay with is Rusty's performance because he was hysterical. Yeah, he was funny. The kind of her calling him a pig and all that stuff was not great, but he was so funny. I just felt like all the characters got thrown out of the window in that storyline. I was like, who are these people? Morgan is supposed to be like...
sassy independent always sort of sarcastic she's not any of that her alan is like suddenly this like controlling obsessive father i was like what and like i don't know it just i felt like all the characters got thrown out the window in that storyline um and then yeah i thought cory being the cory that we that you talked a lot about yeah obsessive cory is just red flag obsessive cory it was mostly topanga that threw me this episode because it was
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Chapter 5: What are the hosts' thoughts on the first episode of Season 7?
Did you go to Hawaii? Did you must have? So this is this the summer? Ninety nine. Ninety nine before. Right. OK, so I graduated from high school and I was so excited that I was not going to have to be in school for one season of the show. I was going to feel like an adult finally. And I actually I took my family to Malta. My grandfather, my grandparents are from Malta.
They came over here in like 1954 or 52, whatever year was the last trip the Queen Mary took. My grandparents were on and I had never been to Malta. And it was my grandfather's big dream. He played the lottery all the time because his big goal was that he was going to win the lotto and then fly all of us to Malta. he's one of 12. A lot of them still lived in Malta.
He's got a sister who's a nun, um, and quite a few family members that still lived over there. And so when I graduated, I took my family to Malta and it was so much fun. Um, and had a great time. We stayed there for, for a little while. And, uh, so we skipped Hawaii this year in favor of Malta. Nice. Yeah. That's what I did. But Will, what about you?
Uh, H double hockey sticks panic attack in the middle of a scene, a scene that they used bedridden for three weeks. Oh, So that was you and Matt Lawrence, and you were shooting in Canada? We were shooting in Canada. I was in the middle of a scene with Gabrielle Union. The world flipped, and my life had never been the same since. So just middle of a take. My whole life changed.
It was the only time I ever had a Sopranos-style panic attack where I made it to my trailer. The whole trailer spun, and I passed out. Wow. They called the doctor to the set. The doctor's like, I think you're having a panic attack. I went, no, it's not that. That's obviously something horrible. He gave me four one milligram Atavans for the next three weeks of shooting.
Um, and I was just struggling with my life. Um, I remember, Oh God, it's so strange to talk about this. Um, we finished the movie and I'm curled up in the seat on the plane to go home. And I was so in the middle of a panic attack that I almost jumped up and started screaming to open the door of the plane to let me out.
and so i just kept my eyes shut curled into a ball on the on the seat because i wanted to just get home right um didn't you you uh you fell in love right you met a girl i did i met a girl because you came back with a girlfriend for the worst time yeah yeah i'd just broken up with love our love and i broke up a little while before and that kind of she was my first love so that like threw my life into a tailspin and then she was a skater right the
Yeah, then I met Kila, who was the Canadian figure skater, and she and I fell in love. But she met me, like, at my—I think she met—I met her, I think, a day or two before my first panic attack. Wow. And then we were together for, I don't know, a couple years, I think. I think, yeah. It was the whole season, yeah. So it was—yeah, it was just—it was a very bad time.
And then bedridden, and then medicated, and then, you know, just— putting on all the weight and all that kind of stuff. And then like, Oh my God, I have to go back to work. So yeah, the summer of 99, I will always remember. Yeah. So I'm sure it'll get better as the season goes on. Just, I mean, it doesn't for me as, as 23 year old will, but for me now watching it, we'll get better.
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Chapter 6: How do the characters' relationships evolve in this season?
Because, you know, luckily, and I knock what as I say this, I know a lot of people who deal with depression or anxiety do get to that point of like, I'm not sure I can do this in my life anymore. Meaning like if there's an out, I was never there. So so in that sense, I'm I'm. Yeah.
very grateful uh but at the same time it was yeah it was it was one foot in front of the other just for a good couple years there and this is the start i mean this is like literally six weeks after my first panic attack i hope you can be really proud of young will and have and have a lot of empathy for him and and have it feel very much like wow look what i was able to get through
through yeah and and that instead of great people around me to help you two are tops of that list my wife and friends that i was finally able to open up to because that's the first thing i've told people who deal with this is the best thing you can do is talk about it because the more i was holding it in the worst it was getting so you just had to and i think i did this whole season without anybody really knowing and it wasn't until years later that i started talking about it
Yeah, I remember talking to you about, I think, anxiety for the first time. I was in New York, so it would have been in the three or four years after Boy Meets World. I remember people were asking, like, where are you? I disappeared. I know. That's when it got started that you had agoraphobia.
Yeah, like made papers and stuff that I was agoraphobic, which I didn't read because I wouldn't go outside to get the paper. You didn't have it, but I would not leave. I didn't get it, but I wouldn't leave now. Yeah, so, yeah, a little rough. Well, let's jump into our season seven, episode one recap for Show Me the Love. It originally aired September 24th, 1999.
The synopsis, Sean and Corey synopsis. Did I say synopsis? It's a synopsis. Let me tell Sean and Corey in the synopsis, they traveled to Pittsburgh to persuade Topanga's parents to get back together after Topanga calls off her and Corey's wedding. It was directed by David Kendall. Dave. It was written by Bob Tischler and guest starring Jacob Chase as Dominic.
Jacob had appeared on Seventh Heaven and Babylon 5, The Beginning, but he stopped acting around 2001 and is now a writer slash director specializing in horror. He wrote and directed the 2020 movie Come Play and directed the TV show The Girl in the Woods in 2021 for Peacock. But get ready for his next project, sure to be Jacob's breakout.
He wrote and directed the next chapter of Insidious for Sony and Blumhouse. You know what's so funny? I've known Jacob. Oh, really? As an adult and never knew he was on Boy Meets World. Oh, that's so funny. Yeah. I mean, he must have mentioned it maybe when we hung out like because I met him, I want to say like eight, nine years ago, like before he when he was just making short films and stuff.
But I don't think I ever knew that he was on the show. Or he must have maybe mentioned it. I just went, oh, cool. But I had no idea. So yeah, it's so cool. He's a good guy. So his chapter of Insidious will come out in August of 2026. We already kind of talked about it a little bit. So maybe very concisely, let's share our early thoughts. Ryder, you said you did not like it. What was the feeling?
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Chapter 7: What comedic moments stood out in the episode recap?
Yep. It's kind of a shame. And it's just like that was the thing where they also... if my major criticism about this was they weakened the Angela character so badly that it was just like, well, my friend isn't in love anymore. So that means I can't be either. And it's like, really, you can't come up with a, with an idea of your own.
The only story point that like makes sense is, or that is like, if, if this episode began with Topanga breaking up with Corey and Corey deciding to go get her, that's like a cool, interesting motivation, but that's the end of this episode. We're just spinning wheels for the entire storyline. It's like, but the, Why did we make this a two-parter?
The first moment should be, oh, God, Corey's got a crazy scheme, and Sean's got to go along.
Chapter 8: What are the hosts' final reflections on the episode and the series?
That is a story. But we spend the entire episode just getting there. It's weird. Yeah. Yeah. It was difficult in that way. However, I will say, outside of me finding my character insufferable and that whole storyline insufferable, I thought this episode... It pleasantly surprised me, maybe because my expectations overall for season seven are so low.
I do think that similar to Ryder, where you're thinking like, I have a feeling the entire season is going to be us talking about our characters and not having motivation. I have the fear. I don't think Topanga changes much from this. I think there's at least half a season where every single episode I'm playing this version of Topanga that's now...
um, no longer, uh, like apparently my, my parents' marriage was the entire foundation of my personality and of my soul. And like, I had 14 parents. It makes sense. 14 parents. They keep changing. They keep morphing into different people. That's been really hard on me. Apparently.
Um, so I'm worried about, I'm like a little worried about that, but I overall, I thought I, I definitely picked up on the relaxed nature of, I mean, writer, you are doing so you're doing all the storytelling in, in the a storyline. And I was like, wow, here we are season seven and writer and will are still the two stars of the show. Yeah. Just just be a storyline, B storyline.
And sometimes they'll reverse. Sometimes will will be the A storyline and writer will be the B storyline. But for the most part, even though really the synopsis of the episode is that Corey and Topanga are no longer going to get married. They are not. They are not the stars of this episode. Yeah.
Um, I loved that, that Corey does come up kind of with a scheme and we get to see Sean say, I'm not doing that. Okay. Yeah, I am. That's cute writer. I love that idea. I wish the episode started there. I wish the episode started with, I can't believe Topanga broke up with me because her parents are getting a divorce. Let's go get them back. You know what I would have done?
This is a terrible thing to say for you, Danielle, because you wouldn't have been there, but Topanga, so it would have started in an airport. Topanga's parents were breaking up and they've broken up already and Topanga needed some time by herself and Seanan and Corey are there to pick her up at the airport and she doesn't show up. Doesn't get off the plane, yeah.
And so it's all about what the hell's going on and the second episode is the scheme to go and get Topanga back. And so it would have just been like she just didn't show. Yeah. Right.
You know, there's something there about it, but the kind of just walking in and saying, you know, where I don't think we should be together with Trina following behind two steps behind going and me either like popping out behind like I'm not I'm not going to be with you either. It was like, what what what is going on? You know, I do very much remember, though, during this season.
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