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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
This is an iHeart Podcast. Guaranteed human. Grammar update. Grammar update. We have more intel, people. Oh, thank God. I've been dying. I don't even remember. I don't even know what the first update was. What is this? M-dash? Why in the dumb ass are we doing this again? M-dash with spaces on the sides. Your ellipses have spaces in between them.
Now, many of you reached out to say, you too also believe that em dashes should have spaces on either side. I didn't see anybody reach out to us. Where did they reach out? Can we talk about eating and travel? My back hurts. Twos of people reached out to me. Ones and twos of people reached out to me to say, Ryder, I agree with you and Ishiguro that we should have space.
Here's where it gets interesting. Here's where it gets good. One of our listeners who reached out to me was my oldest and dearest friend, Ocean. Okay, so... Wait a minute. That's not somebody reaching out to you. That's just your friend. But he listened to the episode. Oh, okay. He reached out to say, dude, I feel exactly the same way about those two specific things.
And then he looked it up and he said, it's actually two rules from two different style manuals. So actually- There's the AP style, which says you should have the spaces on either side of the M dash, but not the Chicago style. But the Chicago style says you should have spaces between your periods and your ellipses.
So he's like, what's the deal with both of us having very strong feelings about these two rules? And then I was like, did we have a conversation about this in sixth grade where we both decided this is in our bones? And he's like, I think we must have, like we must have like somewhere along the way and And then yesterday, my brother asked me to proofread an essay or to give him notes on an essay.
And I noticed Shiloh also does the exact same things. And I texted him. I was like, how do you feel about spaces around the em dash? He's like, it's important. Like, how do you feel about periods during your ellipses? And he's like, do you like it when autocorrect tightens your ellipses? He's like, no, I don't feel good about that. And I'm like, yes. So it goes back to our school.
We all went to the same tiny, tiny high school. Is that AP style or Chicago style? It's a blend of the two. Oh. That's the thing. It's like it's not following one style, which means basically we've nailed it down to probably one teacher at our school at Nonesuch because we all loved our one English teacher, Chris. Chris Kinney took us through. Chris. This is such a small. Not Mr. Something.
It's just Chris. He was only 24. You know, when we were in high school or whatever. So he probably, it was probably him marking up our papers because all three of us. So we're calling it the Nonesuch style, which is the name of our school, which, you know, tiny school. We graduated, I graduated in the class of 12 with Ocean. But we're calling it the Nonesuch style.
So there are 10 other people walking around. Yes, you are just as obsessive. And so I wrote to Charlotte, I was like, it's the none such style. And Charlotte goes, I guess none such style is more than a lack of showers and the lingering scent of weed, which is a perfect description. God. So there you have it, folks. It is now the none such style. Okay.
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Chapter 2: What happens when Topanga discovers a time-continuum vortex?
The paper? I think it's the homework that she's talking about is the studying, which doesn't, it's not bad. I mean, that's not bad. No, it's just something bad happened. We got assigned a paper. I know. That's why I'm like, is it a callback to the week before the- The brotherly shove episode? I don't know. I really am not sure. I know. Yeah, good question.
Corey returns to hysterically laughing at the TV. Topanga has had enough. Fine.
Chapter 3: How does the episode reference Casablanca?
You want me to relax? I'll relax. Corey throws his hands up in excitement. That's my girl. She beelines to the closet for more cleaning. Corey breaks the news. Cleaning is not relaxation. Topanga responds, it's better than watching a duck with a speech impediment.
I think one of the only things I remember very vividly about this week is that I, for whatever reason, had the hardest time saying the word impediment. Ha! Oh, the irony is delicious. I couldn't do it. I was like, better than watching a documentary. And it was like, truly, I think I had to do it 10 times. Oh, the irony is delicious.
And when you go back and listen to it, I think it sounds weird, even in the take they used. I'm not happy with it. That's funny as hell. Oh, my God. I can't say speech impediment. That's funny, man. Now I've perfected it. But I wasn't quite the talker I was back then. I wasn't. Corey is offended. Daffy is doing the best he can with what he has. All right. Topanga yells back. He's an idiot.
Corey cackles again and Topanga finds something in the back of the closet. This is a huge. It's bigger than most of the apartment. This whole apartment from the bedroom to the now the living room to now this closet. Yeah. You didn't want to live there. I couldn't see myself in this fourteen hundred square foot. Like, my God, this is huge. Also, yeah, the closet.
I don't know why we needed it to be that big. I guess camp just the angle. Yeah. Just so we could sneak in and out. Don't you remember how they would get they got us in and out? Well, get ready to say how they got us in and out of the hole. No. How do we get in the hole?
Do you remember they opened the thing, and then all the crew members were waiting to grab our arms, and they were, like, yanking us through that thing. That's why your legs get pulled through so fast. Kind of, but why were our legs able to be straight? Like, was there, like, a platform?
Yeah, and it just ended, like, that wall ended, and there were people there to just pull us out on this flat thing. Like, it wasn't a roller, but it, like, got yanked out of the hole. Wow. Yeah. It felt a little like Wizard of Oz to me. You know, there was like the little feet under the... Yeah.
Do you know if you listen to this episode of Boy Meets World and you start Dark Side of the Moon at exactly the right time... It syncs up? They line up perfectly. Wow. Corey is oblivious, still watching the TV and laughing like a psychopath. Topanga opens the door and looks around. You know those continuum vortex things we're studying in physics? Oh, convenient. Isn't that cool? Oh, convenient.
At least it's not the Civil War still. Oh, my God. You know that saying. We could have maybe just mentioned that they were taking physics just a little bit before this. No, Ryder, the saying is tell, don't show. Everyone knows that. Tell. Why wasn't she working on her physics paper? at the beginning. It's so easy to be like, I'm working on a physics paper. Exactly. Because then it's not a paper.
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Chapter 4: How do the hosts reflect on their performances in this episode?
Just as she's getting sucked into a vortex, he's yelling at her to add salt to his popcorn. Well, she's got to learn her lesson. It's marriage. She's got to learn to chill out. Now we're in the black and white alternative world. Topanga teleports into a phone booth now with a wardrobe, glam, and hairstyle perfect for the 40s. But she is in color.
Moody's saxophone plays as she looks around, confused, and stumbles into Rory's Shangri-La campaign. I love even before that, though. So you show up in the phone booth. And obviously it's an effect that has to be done. So we're all holding. No, you really did. You really transported. So we have to hold while we're there.
And so if you pause it at the right time, right as you're materializing, the extra, the background actor who's playing the police officer is just standing there. And so somebody obviously, well, you know, kind of went like, all right, and now you're here. And now the guy starts walking. Yeah. So it was like it was very kind of OK that they tried to smooth it out, but it didn't quite work.
Didn't quite land. Yeah. Moody saxophone music plays as she looks around confused and stumbles into Rory Shangri-La Cafe. As she exits the phone booth, she transfers to black and white. Inside, Jack is playing the piano and Amy is sitting on top of it singing. Detective Eric narrates again, describing the joint as a place where you check your problems at the door.
People come here for all different reasons, but stay for just one, to forget. Ella Fitzgerald Kennedy, he continues, as the camera pans to Amy, used to sing with Sinatra. Irv Sinatra. I loved all of these. This was very funny to me. Irv Sinatra. The guy tickling the ivories is Weehawken Willie, the camera pans to Jack, direct descendant of Beethoven. Harry Beethoven.
I remember how nervous Matt was this week because he knew he had to sing. I know. He was super nervous this week, yeah. And he's got such a great voice. Incredible voice. Incredible voice. And then he kind of, he wasn't, he didn't sing for us during rehearsal. He was always like, I'll do it on the night, I'll do it on the night. And then he sung and like everyone went nuts.
But they still cut away from him, which was really weird. Which is very strange, yeah. But it was great. I know, very odd. I feel like maybe it was ADR. It was, I think so. I think he recorded it separately. But it's just so weird that the scene ends. The first part was he sung there. Because I distinctly remember standing right there as he's singing it to me.
That was his, this world's going to run amok. He sung that. So maybe they re-recorded it, but he sung that live. And that was the version that they used. I distinctly remember that going like, oh my, because I hadn't heard it. It was like, oh, he's doing like all these runs. And yeah, it was crazy. Yeah. Fezhead and Costello, they're always together. It's Feeny and a tiny mustache to Alan.
Oh my gosh. They're just sitting in the corner of the cafe playing poker. Eric continues, people talk. Alan tells his buddy in a wild, high-pitched voice that I love. I just kept waiting for every opportunity for him to talk. Well, these are Casablanca characters. These are straight up, Fezhead and this guy, these are all straight from Casablanca. I love it. Hey, move away from me, Fezhead.
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Chapter 5: What themes are explored regarding Topanga's character?
Eric chimes in, more gum. Rachel yells out, someone's here to see ya. Gumshoe abruptly wakes up and asks, what do you mean, a case? Rachel taps his nose with her nail file. No, silly, a poison. She walks to the door in a slow strut. Gumshoe Eric notes, beauty in no brains, a dangerous combination. I'm talking about me. Ha! When Rachel exits, Topanga enters. Is this a bad time, she asks.
Still narrating, Gumshoe Eric says, I had a feeling that if it wasn't yet, it was gonna be. Gonna be what? Topanga asks. He stands up, concerned. What? Topanga explains. Well, I just heard you say... Eric cuts her off. No, I didn't. Topanga is surprised. But I heard you. Eric narrates again. Can we just take a moment? Where does this episode come from?
Like, you have four episodes left in all of Boy Meets World. You know the show is ending. And, like, I actually, like, do appreciate the time travel episodes. Like, I think that they're kind of fun and, like, it's a cool, like, little element. But, like, what a weird choice for our show to make. I told you last time we talked about this. I think we wanted to hit every possible trope.
We did a drama. We did a straight-up wacky comedy. Now there's a time travel episode. I mean, I think we wanted to, like— Hit all of them one last time. It's like the greatest hits. It's like, let's just go back and do Boy Meets World the most Boy Meets World we can. I guess that makes sense. It just seems so weird considering how like self-important the last episode was.
And of course, you know, Brave New World, the two-parter that ends the show. So all we have, we have three left, right? We have Angela's Ashes, which is wrapping up Angela and Sean's storyline, which is crazy dramatic and like big. Crazy. And then the two final episodes to send us to the end of the show. Yeah. This is such a weird one to throw in this late. I don't know.
But it's just like I'm sitting here going like, oh, this is the last time we're going to be recapping a show. We're getting to the end of our – are recaps and I'm getting emotional and nostalgic and sad. I can't imagine what we were feeling back then and yet to do this episode. Right. What a choice. What a choice. I know.
Also, it would feel less weird if my memory of it was, oh, well, we actually did it at the very beginning of the season and they just kept bumping it and it just so happened that they aired it way late. But like, no, this is where it fell. It fell right here at the end of the season. Yeah. And we do, I remember so much feeling so bad for Hafer. It was such a big undertaking.
I remember us being there very late into the night too, which we hadn't done in a really long time. You know, that was like old school where it's midnight and the audience is gone and we're still shooting stuff.
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Chapter 6: What are the character dynamics in the noir-inspired setting?
I mean, that I distinctly remember. I think, I'm going to throw this out there. I think season seven is fantastic. the season of Eric. And I think, I think they were so stoked on you, Will, and your ability to do everything that they just went everywhere. They could, you know, it was just like, let's go crazy with season seven. And that's why I think season seven is kind of
somewhat of a mess, but I also think that, I think their guiding principle was, what can we have Eric do that would be so funny? Yes, dude. See, I think it's Corey and Topanga. Think about that.
Like, that whole episode is basically to reground Eric or to give Eric, like, a real character again to try and, like, it just seems like you were, like, your comedic abilities were what they cared about more than anything. Yes, that is true. And I think Corey and Topanga because they made them the married comedians.
couple yeah i mean it was like by again they did it seamlessly to the point where we've talked about this when we started this rewatch by season five we were like daniel are you on this show and by now we're like this is i can see why everybody remembers cory and topanga cory yeah that's what the show's about right so yeah i mean they definitely just say it's not as successful like
The Corey DeBank stuff is so hit or miss for me. You know, it's like you have the Hollywood episode. But so is the Eric stuff. I mean, my God. Yeah, I guess that's true. I guess that's true. And there's been almost no Sean stuff this season, it seems like. No, no. I think they gave up on me. I think so too. Well, because season six really didn't work.
Like the Angela, the self-seriousness of the Angela and Sean's angst just sucked. It's like, and I think the second you put Sean in college, and you made him sort of like okay and cool, like who cares? This guy's just so uninteresting. You know, like he was so much better when Sean was struggling in school, struggling in his family. That made him an interesting character.
The second you made him like, okay, his dad's dead and now he's just okay living, you know, it's like, who cares? Do you think there was a conversation on any level, anywhere in the room of them going, okay, guys, Ryder's checked out. We can tell that Ryder's checked out. Let's not write to Sean because Ryder's just not here anymore. Probably, probably. Yeah.
Which is too bad, you know, like, and that's on me, you know, like I, I, if, if I had brought some comedy or like, I, you know, but they never, no one ever talked to me. No one ever said like what you're doing, you know, I never felt any of that. Um, which is, but I think in retrospect, if somebody, if a director or Michael or anybody had pulled me aside and been like, what do you want to do?
Like, you know, I probably would have given some input and like been more invested in the show, but I think it was like, ah, Ryder's going to college. Let's just, let's just keep Sean here. But like, he clearly doesn't care about being here anymore. So then. That's a really good question though. Did either of you, cause I can say unequivocally, no.
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