Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
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Chapter 2: What shocking accusation was made against Bachelor star Clayton Eckerd?
Owens, correct? I doctored the test once. It took an army of internet detectives to uncover a disturbing pattern. Two more men who'd been through the same thing. Greg Gillespie and Michael Marancini. My mind was blown. I'm Stephanie Young. This is Love Trapped. Laura, Scottsdale Police. As the season continues, Laura Owens finally faces consequences.
Listen to Love Trapped podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In the middle of the night, Saskia awoke in a haze. Her husband, Mike, was on his laptop.
Chapter 3: How did internet detectives uncover a disturbing pattern?
What was on his screen would change Saskia's life forever. I said, I need you to tell me exactly what you're doing. And immediately, the mask came off. You're supposed to be safe. That's your home. That's your husband. Listen to Betrayal Season 5 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Nancy Glass, host of the Burden of Guilt Season 2 podcast.
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You can get the Stuff You Should Know Think Spring playlist on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Previously, on The Red Weather... A few days before she died, I got a letter from Willow. Willow was my neighbor and one of my best friends as a kid. The central trauma of Willow's life had to do with her sister, Anna. On Halloween night, 1995, Anna disappeared.
Well, it was a little superficial, but I would love to see some of this stuff. I was reading the evidence catalog for Anna Traynor's case. Like, um, this book, uh, maybe? And then could I see the bullets? I always said that she made that take for somebody else, an older guy. You said this thing last week. You said, oh, I'm glad you're 16 at least.
Because I know it's because you just like want me to drive. But then it also can't be true that age doesn't matter. I think in order to get more information about that, I need to talk to Lainey. Because she's going to be on the worst conversation. I know. I'm not looking forward to it. Ryder, it's Lainey Trainor. I don't know. It's been years, decades. I'm in Colorado. Okay, call me back, buddy.
And I knew I had to go to Colorado. I was over a month into investigating the disappearance of Anna Traynor when I finally heard from her mom, Lainey. I have lots to show you. Things you need to see. We traded phone calls. She agreed that if I came out to Denver, she would tell me everything. We set a date. I got a flight. I was excited. But then... I cannot believe she's going to talk to you.
My buddy Chris reminded me. He basically ran away with her daughter that one summer. What are you talking about? Didn't you and Willow take that road trip up through Humboldt? I started this podcast because Anna's sister Willow sent me a letter before she killed herself. Yeah, but it wasn't like we were running away. Connor, our other friend, agreed with Chris. She'd already run away.
She was living in the Hess building. The Hess Building was an abandoned building behind the coffee shop in our hometown. I mean, I just remember you had to go through, like, this little fence to get in. And then, you know, it was all run down. The whole wall was open. And you could kind of climb around a lot of different places. But that was the spot you'd go and smoke weed.
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Chapter 4: What was the significance of Lainey's letter about Willow?
I checked into a hotel and pulled up to her house around 5 p.m. I could see Lainey on the porch. I decided to record from the get-go. Hey, Lainey. Hi. You look like a middle-aged writer. That's what I am. Hi there. Hi. Wow, what are you, a spy? Oh, I know. Is it all right if we're recording? Yeah, of course, of course. I told you you could. Just don't upload my brain to the mothership.
I really thank you for talking to me. Yeah, you know what? You're welcome. Laney had always been small, and she seemed even smaller now, but not fragile. She still looks like she could live in the woods. If you told me that we would get somewhere, anywhere with Anna's case, let alone that it would be Ryder fucking strong, I would have told you you were crazy. Yeah.
Well, you know, it was Willow's letter. Yeah. Yeah. I'm so sorry. I know. I know, honey. Here, let's have a seat, huh? Oh, sure. She had chairs on her porch. She had bourbon. You want a little of this? Uh, yeah. Why not? Thank you. I got the feeling Lainey might have already had a few. I need to tell you something. I was angry with you for so long. You know that? And here it comes.
It's kind of a long story, but I had seen Willow A few weeks earlier, we ran into each other at a party in Santa Cruz. My road trip with Willow was doomed from the start. And I wasn't there? Why was I not there? You were already back east, but actually, I guess you would have been home for the summer. Chris had already transferred to a boarding school in Boston.
One thing leads to another, and we find ourselves in this room at this party making out. But that was not the first time, my friend, was it? No, she was my first kiss. But context is everything. That first time, we were nine, and it was a game of truth or dare. Then she stops kissing me and tells me she can't do this. She's seen someone.
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Chapter 5: What did Lainey reveal about Anna's disappearance?
Brutal. Yeah. So I'm all hurt and embarrassed. Because here we'd finally taken this leap from friends to, oh, yeah, maybe we're going to date. And then just... Boom, like immediately shut down. Of course there's someone else. This was the first time I heard about Mr. Wrong. But a few weeks later, Willow called me from the Oakland airport. She wanted me to pick her up.
She was supposed to be getting on a flight to some kind of summer camp or retreat. I wasn't totally clear. But she didn't want to go. She wanted us to hit the road. She wanted to see if we can be together. I was free. And I did want to see if we could be together. There was a big part of me that had been in love with Willow from the moment I met her. So, I drove to Oakland.
There were years, years, right, where I could not say your name. I wouldn't. You know, when you picked up Willow that summer. Yeah, I know. Yeah, and you guys just took off, you vanished. Yeah, I mean, I thought, you know, I thought it was fine, really, because she called me, asked me to come pick her up because she didn't want to go to the camp. A camp?
You know, that thing in Montana, wherever she was going. Camp? You mean like a summer camp? Yeah, why? It was rehab, Ryder. I should have known. Oh, God. Yeah, we... We found her. Willow had, she had bottles. She had all these pills, just a whole bunch of pills. Me and Charlie, you remember Charlie? Yeah, kind of, kind of.
I actually didn't think I ever met Charlie, but I knew that was Laney's boyfriend for a couple of years, a pseudo stepdad to Willow. She wasn't going to school, wasn't coming home, so Charlie had found the place, a place for her to, you know, get treatment. We'd already been paid for it. It was like for two weeks. I had no idea. Really, you had no idea? Yeah.
I should have known within minutes of picking Willow up that she was lying, that she didn't want some soul-searching road trip. This was not a romantic getaway. She was all distracted and emotional and manic. Yeah, totally. You know, she just wanted to listen to music and find places to camp where no one was around, smoke cigarettes, and she just, like, burst into tears suddenly.
We spent a week driving north up into Humboldt, and despite what she'd insinuated over the phone, everything was strictly platonic. I could tell she was going through something, but I didn't want to pry. But I also was confused and had a lot of my own feelings. It wasn't until about five days into the trip that she finally told me what was going on. She was pregnant.
For three weeks, I didn't know where my daughter was. She didn't tell me, yeah. I hope, you know, now that you're a father, you understand this. I can't, I can't. But, Lainey, I... Let me just get this out, Ryder, please. For three weeks, I didn't know where she was. My moonbeam. I thought I had lost her. It was Anna all over again. And she finally called when you left her in San Francisco.
And she never got over that writer, by the way. I'm not going to lie. That's a wound that did not heal. I had to drive down to the city, and she was a mess. She was crushed. This was tricky, because in my mind, I hadn't left Willow in San Francisco. In fact, I wanted to stay at first. But Willow had decided to have an abortion, and she told me that the father, Mr. Wrong, was coming to help her.
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Chapter 6: How did Willow's life unravel after her sister's disappearance?
Did she ever tell you who it was? No, no clue. Right. See, that's the thing. She just told me that she shouldn't be with this guy. And honestly, I had to stop. Like, Maybe it was her mom's boyfriend? Holy shit. Charlie? Seriously? Yes. I know. It's incredibly fucked up. Yeah, it is. Why else wouldn't she tell me who it was? Wouldn't tell you. Wouldn't tell any of us. Okay.
I get that you didn't want to upset Lainey, but... Why does any of this matter? Yeah, what does this have to do with Anna? Well, because of what Lainey showed me in the house. In the middle of the night, Saskia awoke in a haze. Her husband Mike was on his laptop. What was on his screen would change Saskia's life forever. I said, I need you to tell me exactly what you're doing.
And immediately, the mask came off. You're supposed to be safe. That's your home. That's your husband. To keep this secret for so many years, he's like a seasoned pro. This is a story about the end of a marriage, but it's also the story of one woman who was done living in the dark. You're a dangerous person who preys on vulnerable and trusting people. Your creditor might go up in good.
Listen to Betrayal Season 5 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In 2023, former Bachelor star Clayton Eckerd found himself at the center of a paternity scandal. The family court hearings that followed revealed glaring inconsistencies in her story. This began a years-long court battle to prove the truth. You doctored this particular test twice, Ms.
Owens, correct? I doctored the test once. It took an army of internet detectives to crack the case. I wanted people to be able to see what their tax dollars were being used for. Sunlight's the greatest disinfectant. they would uncover a disturbing pattern. Two more men who'd been through the same thing. Greg Gillespie and Michael Marangini. My mind was blown. I'm Stephanie Young.
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I'm Nancy Glass, host of the Burden of Guilt Season 2 podcast. This is a story about a horrendous lie that destroyed two families. Late one night, Bobby Gumpright became the victim of a random crime. He pulls the gun, tells me to lie down on the ground. He identified Jermaine Hudson as the perpetrator. Jermaine was sentenced to 99 years. I'm like, Lord, this can't be real.
I thought it was a mistaken identity. The best lie is partial truth. For 22 years, only two people knew the truth until a confession changed everything. I was a monster. Listen to Burden of Guilt Season 2 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Let's go. Our iHeartRadio Music Awards are coming back Thursday, March 26th live on Fox.
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Chapter 7: What evidence did Lainey present regarding Anna's case?
We were going to change the world. It was radical. It was a radical change. And with the kids, we thought it was perfect. Let the woods be school. Let nature, you know, be their teacher. But the reality was the kids, the Grommets, got older. Goddamn, Liam was out of hand. What a snot. And him and his mom left when he was like 9 or 10. And then Joan's son started going to Twin Hills.
Before they knew it, Laney and the other moms were driving to three different schools. Suddenly our free-flowing, groovy thing became about who was picking up whose kid, who had the keys to whose car. And, God, my girls hated it. Anna hated it. She wanted Diet Coke and Cheetos. She wanted pom-poms and, you know, the fucking Sadie Hawkins dance.
Oh, God, there was a girl in town, Bailey Bam Bam, whatever. And she would be dropped off by her mom, and she would pull up in the front of the school, and she had this, like, white Jeep, you know, and the blonde hair and all the clothes. And Anna turns to me one day, and she says, Why can't we be like that? And I was like, Honey, stardust, love of my life. That is death. That is hell.
You want to live like that, you got to take the whole thing. You're going to have a job you hate. You're going to have some man telling you what to do, breathing down your neck. Lainey saw tender hearts as a refuge. I was protecting them, my girls. They had no idea how much I was protecting them. I was coming from... Well, I'm going to tell you I don't care. I was raped when I was 14. Oh, God.
Yeah, by my dad's best friend, Cooper Davis. I'm so sorry. Cooper Davis. I'm so sorry. That's awful. And for my parents, for Cooper, there was something normal about it, you know? It was, like, expected. First week of summer, Laney's 14. Laney has a new bathing suit, so sure, Cooper couldn't help himself. Un-fucking-believable. You know what my dad did? He went and he had a talk with him.
My mom's a mess. My brother Jacob doesn't know what the hell's going on. My dad goes to Cooper. The men had their talk and everything's fine. Just right back under the rug. They have their talk. Cooper comes to dinner the next week. You wanna smoke? Yeah, come on, just do it. Thank you. You gotta quit this shit, Ryder. I stopped, I made it almost five years this spring. Oh, good for you.
Wait till you have a teenager. What do you have, a girl? A son. Oh my God, thank God. You better thank God every day. You take him to the woods? You give him tree time? I do, actually. I try, yeah. Anna turning away from the Tenderhearts wasn't just a lifestyle choice or a philosophical betrayal. It brought real consequences. She goes off for the all-American life, and what did it get her?
It got her shitty friends, the mall girls, I called them. A boyfriend who thinks he owns her and some other fucking guy. She won't say who it is, and in her notes, it's constantly bugging her. Okay, so this is the stalker. At first, Anna complained about a guy who wouldn't leave her alone. But then things changed. All of a sudden, she's missing school late nights, taking the car out.
He wore her down. That son of a bitch wore her down. And she never said who it was? Uh-huh. No, because by then, you know, she'd lost her tender heart. She barely talked to me anymore. Hold up, hold up. Is this where you tell me Anna's stalker was Charlie? No, no, because Charlie and Lanny didn't meet until 1997. And he was stationed overseas in 95. But... You're on the right track.
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Chapter 8: How does the story of Anna connect to Willow's struggles?
I said, I need you to tell me exactly what you're doing. And immediately, the mask came off. You're supposed to be safe. That's your home. That's your husband. Listen to Betrayal Season 5 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Nancy Glass, host of the Burden of Guilt Season 2 podcast. This is a story about a horrendous lie that destroyed two families.
Late one night, Bobby Gumpride became the victim of a random crime. The perpetrator was sentenced to 99 years until a confession changed everything. I was a monster. Listen to Burden of Guilt Season 2 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey there, this is Josh from Stuff You Should Know with a message that could change your life.
The Stuff You Should Know Think Spring podcast playlist is available now. Whether spring has sprung in your neck of the woods yet or not, the Stuff You Should Know Think Spring playlist will make you want to get your overalls on, get outside, and get your hands in the dirt.
You can get the Stuff You Should Know Think Spring playlist on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This is an iHeart Podcast. Guaranteed human.