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AOC Loses to the Gerontocracy

18 Dec 2024

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20.103 - 32.228 Jon Favreau

Welcome to Pod Save America. I'm Jon Favreau. I'm Dan Pfeiffer. I know what you're thinking. Dan and I together on a Wednesday, not a Friday. Is there a polling emergency? Turns out only for Ann Seltzer.

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32.248 - 36.891 Dan Pfeiffer

Yes.

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37.031 - 52.779 Jon Favreau

We are here together because Friday's episode is our annual Pundi show where all four of us debate the worst takes of the year, including ours. Then we're off for the holiday break. So Dan and I thought we'd do one last normal episode here in the very abnormal year of 2024.

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54.82 - 80.461 Dan Pfeiffer

are you as excited as i am dan john i was just so worried that i was my takes were just gonna be stuck in the fridge for weeks and i had to get them out before they started to smell i know well you don't put them on social media as much anymore so i know i should but because you're smart because you're smart i watch what happens to you on social media and it's an object lesson you're a walking scared straight for your own podcast offline canary in the coal mine um okay

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81.141 - 99.982 Jon Favreau

So we are going to talk about how House Democrats voted to pass over AOC for the top job on the Oversight Committee and whether it says anything about the party's broader strategy over the next few years. We also potentially have some good news. There's reportedly an effort afoot to stop Democratic fundraising spam. How about that?

100.583 - 122.606 Jon Favreau

And then later, you'll hear my interview with Cecilia Munoz, a 20 year veteran of the immigration fight, about why she thinks Democrats lost their way on the issue and how we can build a majority for real reform. But first, we have talked a lot in recent weeks about Trump's revenge tour and how scared his critics should be. Looks like we're starting to get our answer.

123.126 - 146.806 Jon Favreau

On Wednesday, House Republicans released a 128-page report that unsurprisingly tries to pin the blame for January 6th on Democrats instead of Donald Trump. People would be surprised to learn that. But Republicans, quote, top finding... was this, quote, former Representative Liz Cheney colluded with star witness Cassidy Hutchinson without Hutchinson's attorney's knowledge.

147.267 - 170.327 Jon Favreau

Cheney should be investigated for potential criminal witness tampering by the FBI and might have broken, quote, numerous federal laws. Cheney called the allegations, quote, defamatory and said that no reputable lawyer, legislator or judge would take this seriously. Someone who is taking it seriously, Donald Trump, who posted at 3 a.m.

170.868 - 188.636 Jon Favreau

a statement that started, Liz Cheney could be in a lot of trouble. So this is obviously bullshit. And we know that it was Cassidy Hutchinson who reached out to Liz Cheney, not the other way around. Cheney talked to her in her capacity as a member of Congress, not a lawyer.

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