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Chapter 1: How is the war in Iran spiraling out of control?
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Chapter 2: What are the implications of the U.S. military's lack of planning in Iran?
People who are just terrified. And the U.S. government is doing nothing for them. And the U.S. government is the reason they're terrified. It's because the U.S.
Chapter 3: What role did Israel play in pushing Trump towards war with Iran?
started a war while they were there without an evacuation plan. And also in Pakistan, I think 22 people have been killed in protests over the country. Thousands came out in support of the Iranian regime. They've stormed American embassies and consulates and all parts across the country. So it's very scary. This is something we went through during the Arab Spring.
I mean, a lot of these- This could get worse. These diplomatic facilities in Pakistan in particular are hairy.
Chapter 4: What is the significance of the Supreme Leader's death in Iran?
Yeah. That's a hairy post. It's also been, it's very hard to quantify the cost of these wars. in real time financially, but a few numbers to try to start that process. So there was a report put out by the Andalou News Agency that estimated that just in the first day, Operation Epic Fury cost $779 million.
So they did this by trying to total up the cost of the weapons that were dropping on places, or the weapons systems, what they cost to operate. For example, the USS Gerald Ford costs about $6.5 million per day to operate. Oil prices, as of this recording, are up about 10% since last Friday. That is obviously a lot.
It is still nothing compared to what will happen if Ron actually closes the Strait of Hormuz. Along those lines, Trump posted this weird message saying he directed the U.S. government to provide political risk insurance for all maritime trade through the Persian Gulf. Oh, yeah, really eye on the ball. If your mom is stuck in the Middle East, you're fucked.
But, you know, let's get some political risk insurance to some hedge fund guy that has a trade on some energy. Well, he also said the U.S. will begin escorting tankers through the Strait of Hormuz. Can you imagine the cost of escorting every tanker through the Strait of Hormuz?
And then again, as we mentioned yesterday, like this has just been hugely disruptive to commerce all across the Middle East, especially like Dubai. Amazon said that three of its facilities in the UAE and Bahrain have been damaged by drone attacks. That has messed with AWS data centers. Banks in the Emirates are having to work around low staffing. So like the economic fallout is just beginning.
Oh, it's going to be billions upon billions and billions of dollars. And look, again, the Gulf –
is going to change their security paradigm and there's no way that that i mean they won't do it tomorrow but this kind of reliance on the united states to to be the shield around us so that we can have our prosperous um secure you know existence has been shattered by this war uh the lack of regard that the united states has for these countries that it's like oh we'll start the war you're gonna get bombed we're gonna prioritize missile defense for israel uh not you
I mean, there's reports that Qatar and the UAE are like, you know, have a week or less worth of interceptor missiles. And then what? What's the plan? I mean, I do just want to the pod started. We've had highs and lows like I'm like, hello, people who voted for Donald Trump. Like, is this what the fuck you wanted? I mean, go find, this is insane what is happening.
Put your phone on speaker, run down the street, find someone in a red hat and play this part. This is just insane what is happening. And it's insane that like anyone would even try to kind of sane wash this of like, well, we took out the Supreme Leader. Like, what is going on here, people? I saw Tom Cotton on TV saying that Iran has posed an imminent risk to the United States for 47 years.
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Chapter 5: How did Trump's press conference reveal his understanding of the situation?
Do you see the Washington Post said that Mohammed bin Salman was calling to lobby to go to war? I do not buy that report. It's only they've reported it. I did not hear that. I've been talking to people in the Gulf from before this war. Egypt was against this publicly and they don't really do things without checking with the Saudis first.
That felt like somebody else wanting to kind of spread this around, right? And the Saudis denied it immediately and pretty vocally too. Anyone who listens to this podcast knows I'm not like some big fan of the Saudis. But if you look at what Saudi Arabia has done in the last few years, Mohammed bin Salman did a rapprochement with the Iranian government. He wanted stability.
Why would he do a rapprochement with them, brokered by China, and then turn around and be like, you know what I want? I want to topple a regime with no plan for what comes after and have the veneer of security that I've created in this country shattered by Iranian drones and have Saudi Aramco overfields on fire. No, I just don't believe that. So I'm not blaming Israel entirely at all.
This is Donald Trump's fault. Nor is it absolving Iran of the bullshit they do, right? Yeah, and actually I want to be very clear about this. When he said this yesterday, at first my reaction was, I can't believe he said that. It's like the classic gaffe where you say the truth, like everybody else has been spinning and Rubio is actually telling the truth.
And then I thought they'd clean it up, which they did today. But yesterday, they tweeted out Rubio's comment from the White House rapid response account. Did you see that? No. So this was not something they were hiding. It's what everybody has been seeing. Why has Bibi Netanyahu come to visit Donald Trump seven times? The last time, the 12-day war, He got Trump into that one.
Israel actually started bombing and then was like, come along, guys. Like, you better get involved here, you know? So it's been very evident that Israel wants this. They have not concealed the fact that they want to do it. And, like, the thing that is... so maddening is that Trump can say no.
Absent from any of these comments by tough guys like Tom Cotton and Marco Rubio is the notion that if Bibi comes to Trump or any president of the United States, because he came to Obama and wanted to bomb Iran. I'm sure he came to Biden and wanted him to bomb Iran. Obama said no. Biden said no. Like George W. Bush said no to that. This guy started the Iraq war.
And Donald Trump can say, no, I'm not going to do this. No, by the way, I'm not going to support you doing it either right now because it puts our people at risk. That is an option that is available to him that has been taken by every U.S. president not named president. Donald Trump in the 21st century. And so it's not some fait accompli.
And I just want to say, like, if you want to call us all anti-Semites for just pointing out the reality that this is at least a part of what happened, it's not, again, not the whole reason. then that term means nothing anymore.
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