Chapter 1: What are the details surrounding the controversial red card decision?
It's a couple of days after that game, the Oxford game, but we still have to find out what Steve Bone thought about the red card. Steve, good day, welcome, and what about that red card?
yes I keep on watching it back and I've just watched it five minutes before talking to you just to remind myself and I it's a difficult one but it is not the is not the most unjust red card I've ever seen but far from it
You can see, I think you can partly see why it's been given and we still don't know whether it was the referee's decision from first sight or the linesman intervened or I don't know if the fourth official is allowed to even. I don't know who has said that is a red card but obviously between them or... The referee has either made that decision himself or he's had help in making that decision.
It's a clumsy challenge by Ogilvy because the first contact, he's obviously trying to, you know, it's a bad touch and he's trying to get the ball back and the first contact is sort of ankle on ankle, isn't it, as he's trying to get to the ball and that is what brings the Oxford player down and Ogilvy then kind of wraps himself around it and gets the ball.
And I think at the time, you know, I think you can sometimes judge these things by people's reaction in real time. In real time, people thought, oh, OK, well, that's a freak kick against us. That's a shame. Maybe, you know, it could have been a booking issue. But I don't think anybody expected it to be a red card.
And I think one of the tests for these things is what would the reaction from both sides have been if he'd given a yellow card. Don't think Pompey would have complained too much. Pretty sure Oxford wouldn't have complained either.
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Chapter 2: How do fans react to referee decisions in football?
Because I don't think they were expecting it to be red either. But it's a tricky one, because if you watch something 20 times and 30 times, you begin to see more and more, and you almost begin to convince yourself, well, OK, maybe it was a bad one. But I don't know. I'm sure you've had a range of views given on Pompey Sound this week on it. That's probably where I'm coming from on it, though.
Yeah, naturally, the views of Pompey fans are biased. You would expect them to be biased. I'm biased. And I dare say you would admit that you are slightly biased as well as a fan. But as a journalist, you're saying it was close, but probably not quite a red card. Have I got that right?
Yeah, I think so, yeah. I think if you're given yellow, everybody gets on with the game. Oxford get their free kick. Nobody is looking back at that afterwards and saying, oh, this yellow card in the Pompey game, why wasn't that given as a red?
Chapter 3: What is the impact of VAR on game decisions and viewer experience?
I don't think it's a talking point. Whereas it became the talking point.
something got him that he didn't give you know the Spencer was on a yellow that was a clear yellow he'd given yellow cards for similar things in that game and and worse things in that game and better things in that game and he didn't give one for that and I think if the player hadn't already been booked he would have been booked there therefore you're saying well what's the referee playing at
I think all managers and players and fans want from referees is consistency you want consistency across games but you don't always get that because you've got different referees interpreting things but you certainly want consistency within one game from one referee and I don't think we had that I think if we'd had consistency
Spencer would have gone off as well and it might not have affected the result we don't know do we you can't go back and say that the result would have been different would have been this or would have been that if Oxford had gone down to 10 at that point but I think we could have lived with the Ogilvy red a bit more easily if Spencer had had a red as well I've just thought of this question what would have been the outcome do you think if we had VAR if we had VAR
Yeah, I don't know. The only other referee type I've seen comment on it was Keith Hackett who thought it was a clear red. So if we'd had Mr Video Assistant there, I think they'd have looked at it. I don't know if they would have considered it a clear and obvious mistake by the ref and tried to get him to have a look at it again.
But there have been plenty of things that VAR has got involved in and tried to overturn or overturned that aren't clear and obvious, which is one of the reasons people don't like it. It's interfering in too much, isn't it?
and I saw a couple of people say after this Pompey game oh I wish we had VAR in the championship well I certainly don't because you may get the odd thing going in your favour instead of against you but you get just as many going against you that were in favour and I just think it breaks the game up it causes it changes football I think it changes the viewing experience of football does VAR in that you can't celebrate anything you have to wait for
people in a room miles away to have a look at it and then decide if it's going to stand or not and bring the referee over to have a look at it on the monitor how long do you think the delay would have been how many angles would they have wanted to have seen that from and how many times would they wanted to have viewed it over and over again in slow motion in real time back in slow motion from the other angle from slow motion it would have been seven to ten minutes don't you think
10 minutes, don't you think? Yeah, we'd have still been there at tea time, wouldn't we?
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Chapter 4: How does player performance affect team dynamics?
Definitely would have been home in time for tea. Yeah, and we don't know what conclusion they'd have come to, do we? I see Pompey have appealed against it.
uh... wasn't sure that they would all that much of the scene i said after the game he he seems to quite clear straight away didn't either that they would appeal uh... i suppose in a way you've got nothing to lose by appealing although keith hackett who keeps sort of uh... maybe he's being asked but he keeps sort of putting his four penneth into this one um... has to sort of make a living from his media outlets somehow i suppose uh... he has
said that the danger with an appeal is that you can end up getting a longer ban than you've got already So we hope that that doesn't happen. I don't think that will happen because I think that only applies if an appeal is seen as frivolous. And I don't think this one is. I think this is a debatable decision that the club want consideration given to being overturned.
So I'd be surprised if the appeal wins, but sometimes they do. So, as I say, probably nothing to lose in appealing.
We could talk about the red card incident all day. But moving on, I never rated Hackett as a referee and I don't rate him as a gob on a stick either. Because as you hinted, very professionally, I thought, if I may say so, he's paid to be colourful.
Yeah, yeah.
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Chapter 5: What are the implications of player injuries on team strategy?
You get a lot of ex-referees in the media now, don't you? And I do wonder what the present day referees think of it. I mean, generally, the referees on the TV and on the radio and in the newspaper columns will side with the decisions that the present referees have made, won't they? Sometimes they'll go against them and they'll say, oh, he's got that wrong.
which I shouldn't think goes down too well I just think it's another sign that everything is over analysed really I thought TV coverage of football was perfectly ok before we had ex-referees commenting on every sort of change of direction of the wind and everything else So we won't worry too much about what Mr Hackett says.
He is about the only person I've seen come out and say that was a red card, stop moaning.
I have to get your comment on this. A player, a Pompey player, and I'm not going to name him, appears to have come out and said that there is a possibility that one day...
The broadcasters will get their hands on football to such an extent that they're able to say to somebody who can make a game look as interesting as possible and a bottom of the table championship match does possibly need a little bit of stimulating and we'll end up with WWE instead of football. WWE instead of football.
Yeah. Well, you look at the extent to which TV has got its hands on football already. You know, we've spoken on here about how they change kick-off times if they want to. They'll delay a kick-off if the adverts are still showing on the TV.
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Chapter 6: How do coaching decisions influence player selection?
You know, some people would say TV already runs football. So, yeah, having got away with what they've got away with so far by throwing money at football... how much further will they go, you know, with more money and more control? So I don't think that's an unreasonable opinion, really. OK. And, yeah, I mean, a lot of the best things you see on TV are staged, aren't they?
So maybe a TV exec somewhere will think, oh, we could script our football matches to make them more interesting and have a sort of, you know, a sort of... We can engineer it so that everybody stays switched on to the very end and doesn't know what's going to happen. Rather than have a show a game that's 4-0 at half-time and everybody switches off. Wouldn't put anything past them.
Very wise words. OK, but let's finally bury that one. Although, of course, we will be without Conor Ogilvie probably for three games unless the appeal is successful, which you quite rightly say is highly unlikely. What did you think of Williams' performance when he came on in the 18th minute at left back?
Yeah, and he came on cold, didn't he, really?
Chapter 7: What role do experienced players play in a team's success?
I mean, A, he wouldn't have expected to be coming on, probably at all, in that game, unless there was an injury or a red card. And he hasn't played much, has he, for a while? I don't think he's started a game for a couple of months or maybe even a bit more. I thought he did well, actually. And I liked the way he linked up with Anderson down the left.
There was a couple of times where he got the ball, he had a bit of time, and he then managed to put a good ball away for Anderson to run on to. I liked that. I thought that worked better than some of what we've seen with Swanson as a right-footed left-back trying to link up with the man in front of him. No disrespect to Swanson. I think he's done a good job at left-back.
But I actually think Williams is a better defender than Swanson. And if Williams is the left-back deputy while Ogilvie's out, I've got no problems with that. I think Williams is actually a bit unlucky not to have played more than he has. I'd have picked him at right-back in some of the games over Devlin and Swanson. I think he's a 7 out of 10 man.
Chapter 8: What are the predictions for the upcoming matches and their significance?
He's dependable. He's reliable. Not going to do anything fancy, although he did do something fancy against Millwall at home earlier in the season when he got forward and scored that terrific goal that clinched the win against Millwall. Yeah, he's been around the block, hasn't he? He knows his way around this league. I don't think he's a bad deputy at all. And I think he showed that on Monday.
There have been one or two mild murmurings about Nicola Schmidt lately and somebody who ought to know better, so I won't name that person, said that his kicking recently has become awful. I strongly disagree with that. I'd be interested to get your view though. But the fact is he didn't really help his case with spilling the ball in front of the oncoming Oxford forward for their first goal.
for their first goal yeah I mean as we've said before as a goalkeeper you make one little one sort of what is a fairly minor mistake it can easily cost your team a goal and that's what happened on Monday if a centre half had done that and sort of gifted possession to somebody 30 yards out it probably wouldn't have ended in a goal if a midfielder or striker does it it just means you've lost possession for a bit so goalkeepers are under the microscope but
You know, they're there for a reason and there have been one or two goals recently that we've let in that you've just thought he might have done a little bit better on. The one at that late one away to Blackburn that Blackburn equalised from was another one where you were kind of left thinking, I want to look at that again. Could he have imposed himself more? Could he have done more there?
And there have been a couple at home as well. So that's more of a concern for me than he's kicking. I think he's kicking is okay on the whole. Even in the short time he's been with us, he's been asked to play different styles of play really. There have been times where clearly he's been asked to always give the ball to a fullback or defender or to pack in front of him.
And there have been other times where he's been told to kick it long. There have been other times where he's clearly told to try to find the winger, play it wide, long and wide. And that's difficult for a keeper to do. You've got to be so accurate with that. Because if you're five yards out, if you're five yards too long it's out for a throw-in.
If you're five yards too short you've probably given possession back to the other team. So I don't think he's kicking his bad at all. I do think his dominance of his six-yard box at times could be better. But I wouldn't be looking to change him. People say bring Bursic back. I still think he's our best goalkeeper at the moment and should be entrusted with the last six games.
Longer term, we might see Toby Stewart coming back. We don't know what the plans are going to be for next season. Schmidt won't be with us forever but for now we are quite happy with him but yeah there have been one or two recently goals that he's let in where you've kind of thought could have done a little bit better there
Seems to some that the longer Colby Bishop's goal drought goes on, the less the moaners moan about him. Is that because his hold-up play and the way he wins the ball with his head and sometimes his chest when it's delivered long, mainly by Schmidt, is so good we almost forgive him the fact that somebody else has to score the goals? have to score the goal.
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