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Classified, or Not Classified?

27 Mar 2025

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The Atlantic’s editor in chief, Jeffrey Goldberg, and staff writer Shane Harris published more details from a Signal chat between President Donald Trump’s top advisers that included sensitive details about a military strike in Yemen. In screenshots published by The Atlantic, the defense secretary messaged information about strike targets and times of attack. Top Trump officials have denied both to reporters and in congressional hearings that the information in the chat was classified. Claudine Ebeid talks to Shane Harris, who covers national security, about how he would characterize the messages and what kind of reverberations to expect from this breach. Get more from your favorite Atlantic voices when you subscribe. You’ll enjoy unlimited access to Pulitzer-winning journalism, from clear-eyed analysis and insight on breaking news to fascinating explorations of our world. Subscribe today at TheAtlantic.com/podsub. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0.449 - 15.374 Karla Lally Music

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51.877 - 71.42 Claudine Ebeid

This is Radio Atlantic. I'm Claudina Bade in für Hannah Rosen. On Monday, The Atlantic reported that our editor-in-chief Jeffrey Goldberg was added to a Signal Group chat. It was a thread with senior Trump administration officials that included sensitive military information about an attack on Houthi targets in Yemen. Am Tag des Angriffes, am 15.

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71.46 - 89.729 Claudine Ebeid

März, hat Defensivsekretär Pete Hegseth die operationellen Details zwei Stunden vor den Angriffen geteilt. Und Brian Hughes, der Sprecher für den Nationalen Sicherheitskanzler, hat die Verstärkung des Chat veröffentlicht. Früher diese Woche waren Jeff und Atlantik-Staffreiter Shane Harris auf dem Show.

89.789 - 98.054 Claudine Ebeid

Seitdem haben die Regierungsanwaltinnen und Regierungsanwälte rundherum beurteilt, dass in der Liste irgendwelche klassifizierte Informationen vorgelegt wurden, insbesondere in Testimonien vor dem Kongress.

98.234 - 115.81 Director Gabbard

Director Gabbard, you are the security executive and set access guidelines for classified information. Did you contact the defense secretary or others after this specific military planning was put out and say, hey, we should be doing this in a skiff?

118.152 - 121.115 Claudine Ebeid

There was no classified material that was shared in that signal.

121.155 - 124.558 Director Gabbard

So then, if there was no classified material, share it with the committee.

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