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Radiolab

The Spark of Life

19 Sep 2025

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Full Episode

2.039 - 20.143 Unknown (caller/short interjections)

Wait, you're listening? Okay. Alright. Okay. Alright. You're listening to Radiolab. Radiolab. From WNYC. See? Yep.

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20.163 - 22.065 Molly Webster (host)

Wait, wait, am I glowing right now?

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23.908 - 29.515 Nirosha (Narosha/Nirosha) Murugan (guest/researcher)

You certainly are. Yeah. Yeah.

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50.015 - 73.508 Molly Webster (host)

Hey, this is Radiolab. I'm Molly Webster. So I was a bio major and we had to take maybe one physics class and then we never thought about it again. And this is often how it goes in the sciences. You've got biology. The environment, animals, our bodies, the kind of organic, messy physical stuff, that's on one side.

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74.249 - 81.936 Molly Webster (host)

And then you have physics, all the abstract stuff, waves, energy, invisible particles, that's all on the other side.

83.298 - 84.119 Nirosha (Narosha/Nirosha) Murugan (guest/researcher)

I know how to use these.

84.139 - 93.268 Molly Webster (host)

They very much feel like two different worlds. Can I ask you a couple questions before we get started? You can ask me so many questions. But for Narosha Murugan, they go hand in hand.

93.468 - 105.562 Nirosha (Narosha/Nirosha) Murugan (guest/researcher)

I'm Narosha Murugan, an applied biophysicist from Waterloo, Canada. And most biophysicists look at mostly bio. I'm on the other end, who likes to be 50-50.

106.163 - 129.381 Molly Webster (host)

What I learned from talking to Narosha and what you're going to hear in our conversation today, it is definitely a leap into the unknown. But it starts with a very simple idea about how living things—bacteria, cactuses, humans, whatever— how they do what they do. And it's an idea that made me think about the kind of mark we leave on the world.

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