Scott is joined by The Bulwark’s Tim Miller to break down reports that Trump may accept a $400M jet from Qatar, a shaky tariff truce between the U.S. and China, and Trump’s plan to deport migrants to Libya. Plus, history is made with the election of the first American Pope—and they discuss what his leadership could mean for the future of the Church. Follow Jessica Tarlov, @JessicaTarlov. Follow Prof G, @profgalloway. Follow Raging Moderates, @RagingModeratesPod. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Chapter 1: Who is discussing Trump's potential acceptance of a jet from Qatar?
On with us is literally our favorite side piece, the Bulwark's own Tim Miller. Tim is literally our favorite three and threesome. We have become the same person or the same podcast, Tim. If I'm on something, you're on it before. You're on with Jess a lot. Anyways, it's great to have you, Tim. How are you?
I love being a third, you know, so I really appreciate it. You know, it spices things up and we are, we are becoming the same person. I had your Sidekick Ed. That's right. On my Gen Z podcast like last week. I love Ed. I'm thinking about kicking my co-host Cameron Kasky off and replacing him with Ed. So if you have any problems with him, if he's taking too much vacation, I might poach him.
I watched that.
24.
He's 24. Wow. Yeah. Ed is 26. Yeah. But you're a kid too. I think it's more adorable because I have the grandfather thing. You're just like the big brother. Yeah. A little big brother vibe.
Got to keep making them behave. There you go. Are you in New Orleans today?
Where are you?
I'm in New Orleans. Yeah. I was in New York over the weekend, back in New Orleans. I'm here for... Couple weeks. Then we got a live show in Chicago and Nashville. If any Raging Moderates listeners want to come, May 27th and 28th. Look at me. I'm just plugging, baby. Tell me a little bit about the live shows.
How many people do you get? What's the business model? Do you enjoy it?
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Chapter 2: What are the implications of the US-China tariff truce?
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Donald Trump's been back in office long enough to shock or surprise just about anyone who voted for him at this point, be it the signal scandal or the tariff turnarounds, the Jeanine Pirro of it all, the way he talks about Ozempic. And he takes the fat, the fat shot drug. So rude. I'm in London and I just paid for this damn fat drug I take. I said, it's not working.
On Today Explained, we're asking if any of his voters are experiencing voters remorse, especially those ones who are newer to his winning coalition. Younger voters, black voters, Latin voters. We're heading to Philadelphia, Pennsylvania to ask them if regrets. Do they have a few? And just by way of spoiler to get this out of the way, the answer is yes, they do.
And he takes the fat, the fat shot drug.
Welcome back. On the immigration front, a federal judge has blocked what may be one of the Trump administration's most extreme efforts yet, the planned deportation of detainees to Libya.
ISIS detained Asian nationals in Texas and allegedly pressured them to voluntarily agree to be transferred to prisons controlled by armed militia in eastern Libya, despite widespread reports of torture and human rights abuses in those facilities. At the same time, Trump is touting a 95% drop in illegal crossings at the U.S.-Mexico border compared to last year.
Tim, is this a fear tactic designed to intimidate future migrants into staying away or self-deporting? What do you think is going on here?
There definitely is a desire to try to intimidate people into self-deporting, and they're actively doing this. They're running ads calling on people to self-deport right now. throughout the country. So there is that. I think there is a little bit of a sadism to the Stephen Miller wing of the Trump administration.
I think some of them like the idea of doing these kind of outlandish types of deportation plans because A, it's intimidating. B, I think they get some kind of pleasure out of it. Maybe erotic pleasure. I don't know. But, you know, it's hard to keep track of all this stuff. But the Libya thing is the latest.
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Chapter 3: How does Trump's immigration stance affect his popularity?
Chapter 4: What could the election of the first American Pope mean for the Church?
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Welcome to Raging Moderates. I'm Scott Galloway. Jessica is jet-setting across Europe this week, which I think is awfully nervy given she's a new employee. Our vacation policy is you don't take vacation the first couple of years here at a Galloway-sponsored corporation. But anyways, she has decided to head to Europe where I think she's in Italy or something like that. But Our loss is our gain.
On with us is literally our favorite side piece, the Bulwark's own Tim Miller. Tim is literally our favorite three and threesome. We have become the same person or the same podcast, Tim. If I'm on something, you're on it before. You're on with Jess a lot. Anyways, it's great to have you, Tim. How are you?
I love being a third, you know, so I really appreciate it. You know, it spices things up and we are, we are becoming the same person. I had your Sidekick Ed. That's right. On my Gen Z podcast like last week. I love Ed. I'm thinking about kicking my co-host Cameron Kasky off and replacing him with Ed. So if you have any problems with him, if he's taking too much vacation, I might poach him.
I watched that.
24.
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Chapter 5: What role does social media play in shaping public perception?
Everyone keeps saying we have such a strong bench, and then they say, they point to Wes Moore, and the list runs shallow. And then everyone was getting excited about John Fetterman. And there's all these stories coming out saying that he's struggling. Who do you see as kind of the up and coming draft choices in the Democratic Party?
I am on the weak bench side of this. Me and Carville argue about this. Carville feels very like the bench is really good. I don't really think so. But I do like Wes Moore. I think that you've seen the AOC and Bernie are actually channeling something. Obviously, Bernie's really old. Let me just push a pause there.
My thesis is they're great. They're inspiring. There's no fucking way America's going to elect either of them.
Yeah, it was funny. I was at a panel and this is part of like getting again outside of these pockets of Republicans are praying that Bernie or AOC are the nominee. I was on a panel here in Louisiana and I got the same question. I was given the same answer I'm giving right now. And then I mentioned AOC and a guy who I know is an older guy is a Democrat.
Louisiana Democrat came up to me and he's just like, my party is more insane than I even thought it was. If they think that AOC can win. this country. It's just like people that are outside of certain worlds just don't see things differently. That said, they've showed leadership and I just wanted to mention it.
They're inspiring.
Yeah. But look, here's what I think, man. Look, If this is May, where it's May 12th, 2025, if you took us to May 12th, 2013, and said Donald Trump is going to be the Republican Party leader, everybody would say you're insane. If you took us to May 12th, 2005, and said that Barack Hussein Obama is going to be the Democratic Party leader, everybody would say you'd be insane.
And I think a lot of times people have limits on their imaginations. Same with Clinton. Nobody knew who Clinton was. Yeah. And I think that you look at – like the two names – two examples I just come up with that are just totally different. Neither of these guys are going to be the leader of the Democratic Party.
But Dan Osborne ran for Senate in Nebraska, way overperformed as kind of a working class, socially conservative, fiscally liberal guy. And, like, Democrats should recruit guys like that to run the midterms. Mark Cuban is, like, the inverse of him. He's, like, a business guy.
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