Raging Moderates with Scott Galloway and Jessica Tarlov
Trump Pretends He's Above the Law (feat. Leader Hakeem Jeffries)
Fri, 18 Apr 2025
Live from the 92nd Street Y, Scott and Jessica sit down with House Democratic Leader Hakeem Jeffries for a candid, wide-ranging conversation. They cover Trump’s attacks on the rule of law, his latest trade grift, and dive into what it’ll really take to protect democracy, rebuild public trust, and give Democrats a fighting chance at the ballot box. Follow Jessica Tarlov, @JessicaTarlov. Follow Prof G, @profgalloway. Follow Raging Moderates, @RagingModeratesPod. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Chapter 1: What is the primary focus of this episode?
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Today, we're bringing you a live taping of our conversation from Thursday's event at the legendary 92nd Street Y. Joining us was none other than House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries. It was a great conversation. You can bet Jess led this conversation, so it made some sense. The dog was unchained. He was unchained. The dog's got to howl.
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Chapter 2: How do Trump's actions challenge the rule of law?
This should be shocking not only to judges, but to the intuitive sense of liberty that Americans far removed from courthouses still hold dear." Everyone feels like this is bleak. They're not paying attention to the Supreme Court. They're not paying attention to lower courts. What are we going to do about this?
So I thought it was a powerful decision that was written by the Fourth Circuit building upon the original Supreme Court decision, which in some ways was shocking that it was 9-0 because I never expected to be able to actually count on Thomas and Alito for a somewhat enlightened decision. But it was 9-0. Now there's some vagaries attached to the word facilitate.
that may need to be strongly clarified if this goes back up to the Supreme Court. But foundationally, as was said in that Fourth Circuit decision, Liberty is in the DNA of the United States of America. And what's also in the DNA is the notion that here in this country, we don't have a king, we don't have a monarch, we don't have a dictator, we have a democracy.
And a democracy where there are checks and balances, and that's the Congress, and many of my colleagues on the other side of the aisle, of course, aren't adhering to that notion that we work for the American people, not any president. But the courts also has a critically important, you know, check and balance.
And so I do think that the administration is trying to push the envelope in terms of a confrontation, which is why I've urged the courts and particularly the Supreme Court, which this is likely to go back up to them, to enforce their order.
using the tools that are available, which are contempt, civil contempt or criminal contempt, directed at any of the individuals, the cabinet secretaries or other administration officials who are actually refusing to comply or carrying out unjust or unconstitutional actions.
I remain skeptical that any of this is actually going to happen. And I want to kind of broaden this conversation into one larger about immigration, specifically illegal immigration. Because while the American public thinks that if you've been here over 10 years, you shouldn't be deported, that everyone deserves due process even if you're here undocumented.
the Republicans are lapping us when it comes to immigration. So just today, a new CNBC poll, up 12 on managing the southern border, up seven on deporting illegals. And I think one of the main reasons that we lost the 2024 election was that we let hundreds of millions of people stream across the border. So what is the Democratic plan to show people that we're serious about this problem?
Well, we definitely have to be clear that We believe that we should have a secure border. That's first and foremost. And I think we've repeatedly endeavored to make that clear throughout this Congress. We have a broken immigration system and it's gotta be fixed, but it should be fixed in a bipartisan and comprehensive way. And we're open to having that discussion in good faith
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