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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
The score. I got five. It's time for Five On It. Rahimi Harrison-Roney. Bring you five topics on their minds today. On 104.3 The Score. I got five on it. Number one. Illinois lawmakers and the Bears are reportedly close to a deal on public infrastructure funding and property tax legislation tied to a proposed Arlington Heights Stadium with the team pledging to cover construction costs.
Governor J.B. Pritzker says talks are ongoing and any agreement must protect taxpayers while lawmakers continue working. working through details like ticket affordability and tax certainty. Indiana has advanced its own stadium proposal to lure the Bears, adding pressure as its legislative session nears an end, though Illinois leaders say they're not negotiating out of competition.
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Chapter 2: What infrastructure deal are Illinois lawmakers negotiating with the Bears?
So here's the question. On a scale of 1 to 10 on the BS meter, where do you rate the idea that Illinois lawmakers are not all of a sudden upping their game because of Indiana? Well, that's what we need clarity on, right? So when Cam Buckner says in his story, we're not in competition with Indiana. Well, the Bears made you guys somewhat in competition.
So what does that mean when it comes to the discussion about the tax rate? What does that mean as far as what the Bears want? Here's the other part of this. If the Bears have to give up more than they wanted in this deal, if they're like, okay, we'll stay in Illinois. Okay, we'll go to Arlington Heights, you know, to that place we got.
I don't think we're going to hear that from the bears, you know, so they're going to spin it differently. Correct. So I don't, I think at this point it's really, what is the property tax discussion going to look like? What are the rates that you're trying to negotiate? Do like, what do those do? How much profit should the state get from this? And profit's not the right word.
How much did the state get as far as their taxing entity share? And then where does that go from here? So really, it's a question of, again, who pays, who loses, who benefits? Does the state of Indiana lose, even though they decided to go full steam ahead with this? Does the state of Illinois lose the Bears? Do they think they're not losing because they don't want to pay for this?
So those are the questions that I think we further need answered.
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Chapter 3: How does the competition from Indiana affect the Bears' stadium plans?
All of this, by the way, should have happened three years ago when they bought the property or before. Just to reiterate. But, you know, that's not an option right now. So what's your number? The number on the meter? BS meter. Trademarked. It's very important. We need a number. I mean... Where do you rate the idea of Illinois lawmakers are not all of a sudden upping their game because of Indiana?
I don't know. Five. Okay. It's a neutral for me. Either the Bears could be wanting to come to the table. Them saying they're covering all of the property costs, given that at one point the difference in that was several billion dollars, I think that that's a fair trade. On a scale of one to ten on the BS meter, trademarked.
I rate the idea that Illinois lawmakers are not all of a sudden upping their game because of Indiana at a 9.5. Because there was no rush. There was no impetus. There was nothing moving this thing forward. There's a reason that shovels weren't in the ground in 2025. And that's because... Illinois was like, yeah, you guys got to come back to the table with something better. And they did.
They came to the table with an offer from Indiana that apparently has an expiration date end of this month. So now they're moving. So that's the BS meters at 9.5, Grody, because you know what?
You wouldn't be moving this quickly, Illinois lawmakers, if this wasn't something that was contesting what you're trying to do, which is wait for the Bears to say they'll pay for everything except for infrastructure. It's a 10 on the BS meter. Very simply, one sentence.
The Bears and the state of Illinois have been meeting regularly since December when the Bears put out the press release that they were interested in building a stadium in Hammond, Indiana. Don't forget about the photos. The photos. Those really set it off. Roger Goodell.
By the way, he visited Arlington Heights as well, but it was just the Indiana did it better in terms of publicizing where they were looking. And they put their money where their mouth was. They sure did. When you decide to create a bond issuing authority and you put the law to it, then that shows how serious you are.
The House didn't vote on anything, but the Senate said, yeah, let's do this because it's their bill. Five on it. Illinois State Rep Cam Buckner will join Spiegel and Holmes this afternoon at 4, so more stadium discussion to come then. Do you think this idea from Packers pass rusher Micah Parsons could actually work for the NFL? This is on Front Office Sports.
I almost think we should create an international team. I know it would be uneven in divisions, but... I look at it like make it like the Notre Dame or the NFL. I'll be the first one on board to go over. So Micah Parsons with Front Office Sports, what do you think of this whole international team idea? Okay. I don't hate it. Is that wrong? No.
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Chapter 4: What are the implications of the property tax discussions for the Bears' new stadium?
they don't have a home base or they just come together. Well, he said it's like Notre Dame. So I guess they, uh, it has to be like, I assume they'd be independent, but like they're always traveling to other places. Like, do they have their own home? Maybe they, maybe it's every year or every three or four years you move the location. Now, I understood that Notre Dame has its own home stadium.
I'm not saying that. I'm saying like the concept of them being independent. Yeah, like what's their home then? No, pick a city. Pick an international city that's had longstanding ties to the NFL. We get to vote on that? It'd be like the Pope? We don't vote on the Pope, but I'm saying like anybody in the world could be awarded the team? Yes, I think that it's more like an expansion team situation.
I'm old enough to remember people saying the Jacksonville Jaguars were going to go to Europe. Yeah, well, they're London's team. Yes, so that's what I'm saying. Does London want the Jags? They have a good relationship. They like the owner. Yeah, they have a very good relationship.
So I think this is somewhat doable, maybe not in the way that Micah Parsons is thinking about it, but certainly if a team decided to move. Now, expansion, you wonder how Roger Goodell looks at this. I mean... I'm old enough to remember when they came up with NFL Europe. It's kind of like this minor league system, which also was supposed to get Europeans more excited about American football.
I like the idea. The Ryan Fire? Yes. RIP to the Ryan Fire. Very popular team. The only NFL Europe team I can remember. But understand this. This is the goal. Bad Bunny was out there Bad Bunny-ing for a reason. They want this thing international. And it may take close to the next decade, but I expect between half decade to a decade, there will be an international franchise somewhere.
Yeah, I think that there would be a team in London proper before there would be an international team. I feel like that's a plausible direction anywhere. I don't know if it would be Jacksonville necessarily relocating. I doubt that. Maybe they would just make a whole new team there. But I could see that happening. The international thing is definitely intriguing, but does not feel plausible.
Look, we got our hands full with Bears 2 as well. We can't be thinking about another team to put together. Bears 2 will play anywhere the stadium is built. They are ready. Bears 2 would probably play Hammond. Bears 2 is saving all of their own money. Bears 2 doesn't care. Bears 2 might even play in Kenosha. They've been camping out in Hammond trying to get Bears leftovers.
Bears 2 will have cheerleaders. We're Bears 2. And maybe some of the inappropriate names that you guys suggested. Bears 2. Number three. This is five on it on 104.3 The Score with Laila Rahimi, Marshall Harris, and Mark Grody. Here's question number three. Which Cubs player do you think has a higher likelihood of signing a contract extension this spring?
Second baseman Nico Horner or outfielder Pete Crow Armstrong, a.k.a. PCA?
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Chapter 5: Which Cubs player is more likely to sign a contract extension this spring?
But still, very different situations to be championing that not great Patriots offense and the Bears offense, which was one of the better ones in football. Kurt didn't really want to play our sports talk radio game, did he? No. That's what I got out of that. Would you like to play a game? Shall we play a game? Shall we play a game? Thank you. Two versions of that.
Look who's getting the quote wrong now. It's me. You got one of them right, actually. One is the saw derision, and one is the war game. Right. The war games, the original Matthew Broderick, right? From the 80s. Yeah. You're not responsible for knowing that this is where Layla's just a little younger than us. Oh, no. I got showed war games in, I think, elementary school. Okay.
They're like, see, kids, see what that computer and that internet does. TRS-80, man. You joke around, and the next thing you know, you're starting wars with other countries. And I was like, God, I can't be around that internet. I'm going to stay on my Apple IIe and play this Oregon Trail. Shall we play? Oregon Trail. Oh, the Oregon Trail. Don't dysentery on me now. Oh. Man, so good.
There was a higher likelihood of me dying from dysentery than starting World War III. Yes. Fair. So other than Kurt not really wanting to play the game, but playing the game as best as he could, the one thing that I would say, and he mentioned the ability to run. I know you mentioned that too, Marshall.
That's a huge deal in all of this, and I know Drake May could run as well, but I don't know that there's any quarterback this year who was as elusive, who was as escape artist as Houdini as Caleb Williams was this year. I'm not saying that Seattle doesn't get to him, but maybe three times instead of six times. I don't know. There were some unchecked blitzes, too, that were run by the Seahawks.
Yes. As we've discussed ad nauseum here, whether it be Kayla Williams, Justin Fields, Mitch Trubisky, name your pick. Whose job is it to slide protection? Whose job is it to check that blitz? Whose job is it anyway? Can't wait to see the next episode. Good idea. True carrying numbs. Wayne. Yes. But like, whose job is it to make sure that that bliss is picked up?
And it's hard to, it is hard to divorce Caleb Williams from Ben Johnson in this conversation, but it is not hard to call out Josh McDaniels for me in this conversation. You are just all over him, aren't you? He is your pet project. Listen, she's like, I'm going to cut out a piece. That's okay. She's like, I'm going to cut out a piece of this blame pie.
I'm going to keep it, the slice, and I'm going to give the rest of the pie to Josh McDaniels. Something tells me not only am I the only one doing that, but some of his former players may also have been doing that a time or two. Let's remind you of his time with the Raiders. Mm-hmm.
Okay, so point being, if you're assistant of the year and you've been at this a long time and you get the benefit of the doubt, then maybe the play calling stands to be discussed as well. But do I still think Caleb Williams would have gotten out of it differently? Yes. I think he knows how to escape that kind of pass rush better. Did it all year.
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