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Rahimi, Harris & Grote Show

5 On It: What was biggest disappointing factor in Cubs' loss to Rockies?

17 Jun 2026

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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?

1.718 - 7.891 Mark Grote

This hour on The Score is being brought to you by Jewel Osco. I got five.

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7.911 - 18.875 Marshall Harris

It's time for Five On It. Rahimi Harrison-Roney. Bring you five topics on their minds today. On 104.3 The Score. I got five on it.

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18.895 - 20.098 Mark Grote

Number one.

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20.467 - 37.368 Marshall Harris

This is Five on Out with Rahimi Harrison-Grody, Mark Grody, Marshall Harris in the house, and we're going to kick it off with some multiple choice. What was the biggest disappointing factor from the Cubs' 5-2 loss to the Rockies last night? Was it A, Edward Cabrera leaving the game with a cramp in his hand? Was it B, Phil Maton still being allowed to pitch?

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37.948 - 46.018 Marshall Harris

C, Alex Bregman still hitting in the two-hole? Or D, Cubs going 0-8 in runners in scoring position?

45.998 - 70.045 Mark Grote

Your multiple choice are all very worthy of the worst thing that happened to the Chicago Cubs last night. But I am going to go with... You got it. Five Buttes. Edward Cabrera. Because the parade of pitchers continues for the Cubs. And I don't care... How many men are left on base? I don't care where Alex Bregman is hitting in the lineup.

70.065 - 90.132 Mark Grote

I don't care that Phil Maton is blowing it again in an inning. I'm having trouble saying that one. I care that, my God, one by one, the parade of injured pitchers continues and it feels devastating every time. Every time it's occurred, it feels devastating.

Chapter 2: What was the biggest disappointing factor in the Cubs' loss to the Rockies?

90.612 - 108.996 Mark Grote

And there's Edward Cabrera, who was okay last night, over four and a third. Was ultimately charged with five runs in that game. Did give up the big two-run homer to TJ Rumfield. That won the game. That made it three to two. But in that fifth inning, here we go. And there's still a little bit of mystery surrounding this.

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109.016 - 130.023 Mark Grote

The hand cramp, which it seems like... I haven't heard of many of those, but... Cabrera, right before he's taken out, throws a sick pitch to get Julian looking, and I'm like, okay, now they're coming out there to take him out of the game? What exactly is going on in this case? And then Ryan Rolison comes in, but for me, it is Cabrera.

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130.224 - 149.436 Mark Grote

Probably I take this personally, too, because I'm the one who said that Edward Cabrera would be the ace of the staff, and he's been, I think we called it backstage today, a bit of an enigma. Oh. That's what he is. Do you know which way he's going? He's like the Cubs. Which way are you going, Edward Cabrera? I saw you throwing 99 last night. I see the stuff.

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149.697 - 156.132 Mark Grote

I saw the slider looking to Julian before you got taken out of the game. I see it all. But where's the rest of it?

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156.152 - 158.999 Marshall Harris

So much like the Cubs, he's yet to put it all together is what you're saying.

159.039 - 160.482 Mark Grote

And then like the Cubs, he got injured.

161.339 - 162.861 Marshall Harris

Well, yeah. Okay.

162.882 - 165.085 Mark Grote

Mike Cubs pitchers. He got injured again, by the way.

165.125 - 174.5 Marshall Harris

You gave me four good options on this one, Mark. They gave us four good options. Uh-huh. I think you think I'm going to say C. Of course. Alex Bregman's still hitting in the two hole.

Chapter 3: How did Edward Cabrera's injury impact the game?

298.516 - 320.935 Marshall Harris

On a scale from 1 to 10 on the confidence meter, trademarked, how confident are you that the Cubs could make it two series wins in a row with Javier Assad on the mound? Give me a 6. Because I think it's above like a 50-50 split. But a couple things here. Javier Asad, have you seen his stats lately? Have you seen what he's done since he's been called back to action? He's been great.

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321.175 - 339.913 Marshall Harris

Javier Asad has made a couple of appearances. One which was in relief. Like, oh, you're going to go up because, you know, people are hurt. And he throws six and a third one-hit scoreless innings. Striking out five, walking one against the Giants. They lost that game in ten innings because, you know, still got to hit with runners in scoring position.

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339.893 - 361.856 Marshall Harris

And then the last time out, he goes six scoreless innings, a three-hit ball, just one walk, five strikeouts. Here's the issue. Those look like quality starts to me, even though one technically is not a start. He's never had three... bulk outings, three outings of any kind in a row in which he's gone six innings and given up three runs or less. So we'll call them quality bulk outings.

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362.176 - 377.68 Marshall Harris

He's never done that three times in a row. That's why I'm a little hesitant to give it more than a six. Plus, have you seen what the Cubs have done with runners in scoring position lately? I don't know that we've outlined it enough. And also, another part of my can't go higher than a six is

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378.807 - 383.636 Marshall Harris

Don't know how that game ends if the Cubs have, I don't know, a one-run lead in the ninth, but we'll get to that in a moment.

384.598 - 409.1 Mark Grote

I'm going to go just a little higher. I'm going to go 6.5 on my confidence meter. You did mean a little higher when you said a little higher. Just a little higher. I'll give them the .5. At some point in time, aren't the Cubs starting pitchers going to stop the Colorado Rockies? Don't the law of averages say that eventually you'll stop a 28-46 team from averaging five runs a game against you?

409.12 - 428.913 Mark Grote

Isn't that due to happen? Not to mention... The fact that I'm the guy that's been hard on Javier Saad in his time here because he scares me in velocity and putting men on base and getting out of it when he gets men on base, but he hasn't been doing those things. And two great performances against the same team, by the way, against San Francisco.

429.594 - 454.391 Mark Grote

I do feel pretty... I mean, there's no reason to feel bad about Javier Saad right now. I guess it's that Keurig fella you got to look out for. But also... The guy that he's going up against, extreme inexperience. Sean Sullivan throws back for the Rockies today. Shout out Josh Liss. Throws back. He is a rookie. He's had one start, which was three innings of zero runs against the A's.

454.911 - 468.614 Mark Grote

So, in the name of that, I think the Cubs could be able to, unless it's like the mystery and we don't know this guy and he can get away with some pitches, I think the Cubs are going to hit tonight and they will support Javier Asad. That's right. I said it. Cubs are going to hit tonight.

Chapter 4: Why is Alex Bregman's position in the lineup a concern?

505.454 - 524.07 Marshall Harris

Number three. This is Five On It. I'm Rahimi Harris and Grody. Mark Grody, Marshall Harris in the house today. Coming in at number three, the Cubs placed Daniel Palencia on the injured list with inflammation in his right elbow Tuesday. Who do you want to see close games for the Cubs in his absence?

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524.658 - 553.01 Mark Grote

We know some guys that it's not, that it should be, right? I mean, you think about Theobar, but he's been giving up bombs. We know what's been going on with Phil Maton. That's been a bit of a problem recently. Oh, boy. How about this? Because I'm thinking about two guys just for the hell of it. I'm thinking about Ryan Rolison, maybe, who came in yesterday after Cabrera.

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553.03 - 557.162 Mark Grote

Did give up a couple of runs. I'm also thinking about...

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557.142 - 586.845 Mark Grote

trenton thornton i mean as long as we're trying stuff trent thornton by the way came in after phil maytown loaded the bases after he got the first two outs and then thornton comes in and promptly gets them right out of it no messing around high leverage so i'm gonna do carry over from last night i'm gonna say trent thornton but the palencias thing really just sucks yeah here's the issue i have when you start looking up and down the roster you want someone high octane they're all out of high octane

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587.247 - 614.537 Marshall Harris

They don't have anyone left that is high octane. Phil Maton, he averages 10 strikeouts per nine, but that comes with other complications like a 5.92 ERA. That should be the answer. And a whip of 1.7. Do you understand how bad a 1.77 whip is? Really bad. That means you give up almost two hits. As a reliever. For every inning that you come in. That's usually a recipe for disaster.

614.557 - 624.87 Mark Grote

Is Ryan Presley available? I think he is, actually. Whatever happened to heart attack Hector? Hector Neris, come on in. It's like Yannick Ngakwe.

Chapter 5: What are the Cubs' struggles with runners in scoring position?

624.89 - 644.523 Marshall Harris

I don't need to take a ride on that rickety wooden roller coaster again. Edward Elzali, anyone? Anyone? And I would think maybe Ethan Roberts, right? Okay. That's a good name, actually. I like that. But he's got 16 strikeouts in 21 innings, but he's also walked 10 guys. But the good news is he's only given up one homer.

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644.543 - 646.987 Mark Grote

So maybe Ethan Roberts is my... He's had some nice moments this year, too.

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647.007 - 652.775 Marshall Harris

I'm going to plant my flag with Ethan Roberts for the day. That's a pretty good answer. This is every day we wake up and decide who we want to close.

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652.795 - 657.282 Mark Grote

And today, it's Ethan Roberts. We got Ethan Roberts and Trent Thornton coming at you, Cubs fans.

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659.827 - 688.213 Marshall Harris

Number four. Davis Martin in his three starts in the month of June has allowed 24 hits and 15 earned runs in 14 innings of work. So on a scale from one to 10 on the worry meter, trademarked, how worried are you about Martin's recent performances? So for me, I'm going to put this at a three. I'm at a three, which means I have a level of concern, but it's nothing overpowering. Understanding

689.122 - 706.027 Marshall Harris

The nine runs is the most he's given up in his career in a start. And it was the Yankees. It was at Yankee Stadium. New York has a kind of mystique almost. Don't act like I never told you. Really? That's what we're doing? Don't act like I never told you.

706.507 - 709.211 Mark Grote

Yeah. I don't know if you got plans tonight. Yes.

709.792 - 710.593 Marshall Harris

I have plans tonight.

710.674 - 711.975 Mark Grote

God put me in your plans tonight.

Chapter 6: How confident are the hosts in Javier Assad's performance?

908.947 - 927.21 Mark Grote

And Matas Puzelis is the loudest example of that. What are you going to do? What do you think of them? Do you think, coach, you think you could build around guys like that? I want to know what he thinks about individual players. And I want to know what... What he thinks his identity will be with the Bulls as a coach. What are you going to run?

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927.45 - 940.546 Mark Grote

Are you going to keep the high-paced style up that Billy Donovan finally invoked this past year, similar to what he did, Tiago Splitter, while he was in Portland? So philosophically, what do you want to do with this team?

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941.187 - 970.617 Marshall Harris

Let's go back to the most recent head coach opening in this city and Ben Johnson's press conference. Do you remember when they asked... Of course you were there. Of course you remember. I was there. They asked him though about expectations in year one and whether or not they could be a playoff team in year one. And he said, depends on how much we work and how much willing to sacrifice.

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971.778 - 997.203 Marshall Harris

I want to know what his expectations are for year one, because I don't know if you heard Mark, but over half the teams in the NBA get to go to the post season and 20 out of the 30 teams make it to the postseason every year. There's a path for the Bulls to get to the postseason in year one under Tiago Splitter. I want to hear if that's part of his plan, though.

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997.663 - 1014.932 Marshall Harris

I know it's a rebuild, but you could be rebuilding and still go to the postseason. It's the NBA. Two-thirds of the teams go to the postseason. You've got to be really bad in the East not to go to the postseason. So... What are his expectations? That's what I want to know.

1015.072 - 1035.415 Mark Grote

I also wouldn't mind knowing what his role will be in the draft or what he thinks of some of the players at the top of the draft and what type of player he would want to work with. So... I'd love the Bulls media to get a little bit nosy with some of those questions. And what the hell did happen in Portland?

1035.856 - 1044.437 Marshall Harris

Well, that's the other thing I was going to say is I like messy, especially when it's not my messy. Yeah. I like drama, especially when it's not my drama. Spill the tea, Tiago.

1045.099 - 1068.39 Mark Grote

Is your owner previously a cheapskate? Right, or I think the question could be to keep it without having to say that, like if I'm a reporter, I'm asking him, are you surprised that you were allowed to leave Portland after doing what you did last year, taking over a team under hyper circumstances and leading them to a 42-40 record and getting to the playoffs?

1069.163 - 1072.326 Marshall Harris

Great question. Thank you. See how many of these questions get answered today.

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