Rahimi, Harris & Grote Show
Chuck Garfien talks White Sox & we preview the NBA Draft (Hour 2)
19 Jun 2026
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Chapter 1: What recent developments are impacting the Chicago White Sox?
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Throw that breaking ball into dirt. Pinch hitter, Andrew Petitendi. First pitch, swinging, back he goes! Let's go! It's a grand slam, Betty Bob in the Bronx. And the Sox take the lead here in the eighth inning. Wow!
We're going to be talking about that home run and a bunch of other things regarding the Chicago White Sox in just a second. It's Rahimi Harrison-Grody. Marshall Harris still here. I'm Gabe Ramirez filling in for the duo. And right now we get a chance to talk to someone that covers the team day in and day out on CHSN pre and post with Ozzie Gantz, our good friend Chuck Garfine.
Chuck, welcome to the show. Thanks for having me on, guys. Of course. Let's start with the Yankees series. You know, White Sox lose the first two games. When you're thinking about this last one, how important was it to you that they ended up getting this finale?
I mean, yeah, it was big. And we heard John Triffin say, wow, after he hit the Grand Slam. And it got me thinking there have been a lot of. Wow moments with this team this year. Just think of some of the clutch hits, the walk-offs that they've had. Edgar Carroll against the Cubs. You had Miguel Vargas with a walk-off. Brady Montgomery, his Major League debut, hits a walk-off.
And even though last night was not technically a walk-off, it felt like it. I mean, a pinch hit, grand slam. In Yankee Stadium, Andrew Benintendi coming off the bench. I looked it up. He was only batting 140 as a pinch hitter in his career. It is not easy to do it. But the White Sox have this wow thing happening.
And when you lose the first two games like they did in this series, and it ended a stretch where they were playing the Phillies. And I'm including the Phillies in this because that's a really tough team. Phillies. And then you go and play three straight first place teams in the Braves, Dodgers, and the Yankees. And you go six and five against those teams.
and you end it with that, and then John Burke strikes out the last guy. It's kind of weird.
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Chapter 2: How many All-Stars will the White Sox have this summer?
You start with an opener, and you end with the starter. He went the distance after that. It was quite a statement victory to me, not for the whole season, but just shows me what this team is made of.
It was so needed, too, Chuck, and we saw the opener in Brian Hudson, but to see Grant Taylor up at one point in the pin... and to see Sean Burke come out, not for one more inning, but two more innings to finish that off, career-high swings and misses with 20. What does that signify to you when we talk about this Sox team?
I thought the offense would be spectacular, and they have been, but the pitching has been just good enough so far.
Yeah, they have some holes in their pitching staff, but it seems like as we're now into June and you get a better idea, at least for myself, I get a better idea about this team. Do they have all the answers all the time? No, but they find ways to win or at least win enough. to stay aboard, stay in first place, because you just had your two best starters on your team, Davis Martin, Anthony Kaye.
They get rocked in those first two games against the Yankees, and you're like, okay, what is this going to mean now? Because now we've got Sean Burke. How will he do? And then he was just lights out. So they... As we get closer, I know we talk so much about the trade deadline. I'm like, the trade deadline's in over a month. We've got so much time between now and then.
You could have trades made before that, but for the most part, it's not going to happen that way. Noah Schultz is on a rehab assignment. He'll be coming back up pretty soon, I imagine. But they are keeping the ship afloat without their opening day starter, Shane Smith. Without Noah Schultz, he's on the injured list.
Without Munataka Murakami, who will be back hopefully in the relative near future. I don't know. But then you have Kyle Teal, who's on a rehab assignment. Maybe he's back next week. So they're finding ways to win regardless of who the opponent is, their injuries, whatever it might be. And that's been really fun and exciting to watch.
We're talking to Chuck Garfine right here on 104.3 The Score. Gabe Ramirez along with Marshall Harris. You know, to be a good team, right, because that's where the White Sox are now, right? Above .500, playing well against some of the top teams in the league. You've got to have certain characteristic traits.
And one that I see and we've seen over the weekend or, excuse me, over this last series with the Yankees is resilience, right? The ability to reset, Chuck. Talk about this Sox team and where do you think that comes from? Because they're still young.
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Chapter 3: What clutch moments have defined the White Sox season so far?
And that is... Not something that is, you know, not every team has that and not every team can acquire that so quickly. And I looked this up before I came on with you and I was actually surprised to see how it had quickly turned around that literally September 27th, 2024, the White Sox went to Detroit.
They lost their 121st game of the season, set in the modern day MLB record for losses in a season. That same day, by the way, the Tigers clinched a playoff berth. They were 39 and 121. Today, they go back to Detroit. They're 39 and 34. They're in first place. The Tigers are in last. How quickly things have changed. And I think a lot of it has to do with the belief system.
There's talent there, yes, but there's a belief that this team, every player on the team can beat you, can beat the opponent, whether it's the pitcher, a hitter, Big things, little things, and you do that over the course of a season, you end up, if not making the playoffs, getting very close to it. And that's how I see this White Sox team right now.
It feels like, Chuck, we're not talking enough about Colson Montgomery, which seems preposterous on his face. Because you've got, you know, Munataka Murakami, you've got the breakout year from Miguel Vargas, all these other players who've been called up, the Chase Mydross, the Sam Antonachis. But here's Colson Montgomery, right? basically replicating what he did last year in as many games.
What can you say about the success he's had as a power hitting above average fielding shortstop?
Well, what I said near the end of last season, and I kind of got a little salty on the air about it, I'm like, Chicago is not talking enough about Colson Montgomery.
It was Caleb Williams this, Caleb Williams that, whatever's going on with the Cubs, and even though the White Sox were on the road to losing 100 games, this was a different team altogether in the second half, and Colson was doing something really special. He hit over 20 home runs. Now he's hit 20 home runs again, and We are not ignoring what he's been doing.
He hits three home runs at Yankee Stadium, hits his first two multi-homer game two nights ago, and then what does he do in his first at-bat yesterday? That set the tone, hitting a home run like, hey, we're back again. We might have lost the last two games, but if you play the White Sox, we're coming out here and we're fighting again. And you can't just, you know, the old team, you could just...
face them, and they're going to roll over and lose. That is different this year. Colson is playing a great shortstop. They ask him to play third base whenever they need to put Acuna in there or when Vargas goes over to first, and he does it. He plays great third base as well. He's got a complete game. His OBP, I wish was a little higher.
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Chapter 4: What challenges are the White Sox facing in their pitching staff?
Steve Stone said earlier in the season that he is going to be a top manager in the league, which is great. But it's the players that he's pulling the strings for, Chuck. And you mentioned earlier where a guy like Colson Montgomery deserves more attention. Who's somebody else on that White Sox roster?
Who's a player there that you feel like deserves a little bit more attention for their contributions to the winning ways of the White Sox?
Well, I've been saying this, and I don't know if it's caught on nationally yet. Certainly locally, I think more attention needs to be paid to Miguel Vargas, who I haven't looked at in the last few days. But at last check, he was first in the majors among third basemen in home runs, RBIs, and walks.
I didn't know that.
I know there's a third basement in the little cub sign across town. Wow. Shade. Wow. I love it. I'm here for it, Chuck. I'm here for it. It's been a rough three years. If I'm going to have an opportunity to throw some shade, I'm throwing it. Because we... White Sox people, we've been getting our butts kicked for the last few years. Well, now the White Sox have been kicking butt.
So I can talk a little confidently about our White Sox team that we're talking about here. This is nothing against Alex Bregman. He's an amazing player. Don't get me wrong. But the point I'm trying to make to answer your question is that who's being overlooked? Miguel Vargas is being overlooked. He's maybe the best third baseman, best hitting third baseman in the major leagues. Wow.
Close to Montgomery, maybe the best hitting shortstop right now in the major leagues. So there's a lot of guys, big names actually, with the White Sox. I mean, they play every day. To some degree, they're a little bit overlooked, and I don't want that to happen. And both belong in the All-Star game.
Okay, so you're saying they belong in the All-Star game, but how do you like those odds? You know how it goes. Sometimes that first year you don't get the recognition that you deserve, and there's a lot of talented players at both those positions. How many All-Stars do you see the Sox getting this year realistically?
Yeah, I don't know. A lot can change between now and the All-Star game in terms of voting and in terms of player performance. I mean, Davis Martin was looking like a Cy Young Award candidate. He still might be that, but he's had two rough starts that have inflated his ERA. Where will he be when they have to make a decision about whether he makes the team or not? So that's one.
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Chapter 5: How is the White Sox team showing resilience this season?
And you know what? I'm not going to overlook the Tigers. This team was great last year. They've had a lot of injuries, I know, but the season is so long that I don't want to count them out. Even though they're nine and a half games out of first place, they're six games out of the wild card. I mean, teams make up that all the time, but we see it a lot.
In June, you think a team is dead, and they end up winning the division or getting into the playoffs. So for now, I'd say it's two and a half, but anything is possible.
Chuck, I know it's a long season, so I want to ask you this before you go. Let's hold true for the White Sox, you know, staying on this pace and being competitive. Maybe not atop the AL Central, but, you know, right there in that two-team race that you're talking about.
Come July, come trade deadline, you mentioned it a second ago when speaking about the Tigers, but when thinking about the White Sox, should the approach be one that is aggressive? One that's a bit more cautious or just simply opportunistic when thinking about what kind of moves can be made around that.
All right. I, Chuck Garfine, John Q. Sportscaster, would be cautiously aggressive. Fair. Cautiously aggressive. I'm taking two of your words there. Yeah, let's be aggressive. Let's go for it or go for something. Let's improve this team. The team is playing lights out baseball. So let's do something in the second half that's going to make the team better. But be cautious. Don't.
Trade for Tarek Skubal. I know you would love to have Skubal on the team, but you'd only get him for two months, and you're giving up a lot to get him. So that is aggressive. That's not cautiously aggressive.
To me, that's ā I don't want to say foolishly aggressive because I would love to have Skubal on this team, but this is not ā this plan the White Sox made is not for 2026, and they have arrived sooner than we expected, but let's improve the team with ā
calculated moves that help, if not for just the rest of this season, for the future and don't mortgage your future just to get maybe win a series in 2026 because this is about more than 2026.
You're absolutely right, Chuck. I appreciate your candidness, man, and giving us all the information on the White Sox. I'll look forward to talking to you again soon, all right? Thanks, Chuck. All right, thanks for having me, guys. Chuck Garfine from CHSN giving us the goods, letting us know Vargas, Montgomery, and Davis Martin should be all-stars.
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Chapter 6: Who are the standout players for the White Sox this season?
But yeah, to your point, I would not put $375,000 on DeBonsa because you don't know what could happen. What? That's what I'm saying.
Talk me off the ledge of mortgaging my house and going to go do this to make a 300K.
Darren Peterson is really good at basketball. And so is DeBonsa. I'm not saying he's not. DeBonsa's better than Darren Peterson at basketball. I think so, yes. But many times basketball executives have disagreed with my opinion. I said, you probably shouldn't give Patrick Williams, based on what he's done, a five-year, $9 million contract. Well, that executive's no longer here.
That executive no longer has a job. I also said Nikola Vucevic is not as good as Gabe Ramirez says he is. Dude, at the tail end of his career, if you want to try to put him against him.
No, that was like five years ago when I said that. A 2010 guy is not bad in the NBA. I'm sorry. Okay, so you would take Boozer over Wilson? Would I take Cam Boozer over Caleb Wilson? Yes.
Because Cam Boozer is a 20 and 10 guy.
I would. I would.
Okay.
I would. So you take... I take consistency.
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