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Rahimi, Harris & Grote Show

Kevin Fishbain talks potential salary cap casualties for the Bears

17 Feb 2026

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Chapter 1: What are the Bears' current salary cap challenges?

4.975 - 22.623 Kevin Fishbane

Kevin Fishbane, Bears beat writer for the Athletic. If Justin Fields is great, he'll be great with Byron Pringle and Darnell Mooney and equate him to St. Brown. You would like better players around him, but I think you'll still be able to find a way to evaluate your quarterback, even if it's not greatness around him. Kevin Fishbane talking Bears.

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22.643 - 28.452 Kevin Fishbane

Matt Eberflug, George McCaskey, Ryan Poles, Kevin Fishbane. On Chicago Sports Radio, 104.3 The Score.

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29.782 - 51.89 Leila Rahimi

Kevin Fishbane is a regular guest here on Rahimi Harris and Grody. And we love talking to him in the offseason, too. And he joins us now via our Circa Resort and Casino hotline, CircaLasVegas.com. He is one of the senior writers at The Athletic covering the Bears. He also has a great podcast, Breaking In with Kevin Fishbane, a sports media podcast.

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51.91 - 57.898 Leila Rahimi

And he joins us via Twitch, twitch.tv slash TheScoreChicago. Hey, Kevin, how are you?

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58.874 - 59.535 Kevin Fishbane

I'm good, guys.

Chapter 2: Which Bears players might become salary cap casualties?

59.555 - 60.355 Kevin Fishbane

Happy offseason.

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61.196 - 81.195 Leila Rahimi

Happy offseason, except unfortunately in the very well-written and illustrated story that you posted with The Athletic last week, talking about the very realistic issues with the Bears' salary cap problems. It was a nice table that was also illustrated to and showed whether it was money owed or dead cap money or how they would count against the cap.

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81.976 - 86.62 Leila Rahimi

What were your takeaways from just the research you put together when you wrote that story?

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87.663 - 109.789 Kevin Fishbane

This is new territory for Ryan Poles, really, and the Bears. I mean, for the past few years, they've always been up there as having a ton of cap space, great draft capital. And now this is what happens when you're good. This is what happens when you sign a bunch of veterans and you start making some bigger splashes in the trade market and extending those guys. You're up against the cap.

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109.769 - 126.445 Kevin Fishbane

So they've got some decisions to make. And I always allude to a conversation I had with Ryan Poles a couple years ago where he leaned on his experience at Kansas City. He goes, it gets harder when you are winning football games because you can't keep everybody. And this is really going to be...

126.425 - 138.456 Kevin Fishbane

the first offseason that we might see some of what, you know, it's a business, as you guys know, but are tough decisions. If Ryan Poles doesn't re-sign Jaquan Brisker, that was his second ever draft pick.

Chapter 3: How does Ryan Poles' experience affect the Bears' decisions?

138.896 - 154.17 Kevin Fishbane

If the Bears decide to part ways with Tremaine Edmonds, that was really his first huge free agent splash that they made. So Nishon Wright, who was the story of the year, they might not be able to re-sign him. So these are the things that come with

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154.15 - 179.517 Kevin Fishbane

cap restraints and having a bit of a better team and owing other guys some money um but the other the flip side of that leila is there's only one player really that you could talk about getting an extension done now and that's darnell right uh and by restructuring some of these guys contracts you can flip the script uh and create a lot of cap space but that also kicks the can down the road a bit

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179.8 - 192.577 Mark Grote

All right, now you got me stopped at darn all right. If the Bears were to engage in an extension or even the talks of an extension with darn all right, what are we looking at here, Kevin, money-wise?

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193.739 - 213.165 Kevin Fishbane

It's interesting, Mark, because I talked to a couple agents who do not represent right, just kind of floated it to them. If you were his representation, what are you asking for? One of them said, I'd reset the market. He was second-team all-pro. You look at his age, you look at – The accomplishments you remember, he did all that last year, most of it with a brace on his arm.

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214.306 - 234.496 Kevin Fishbane

You could say like, hey, we'll go ahead and get the you know, we'll top Penny Sewell, which right now is the top right tackle contract. Now, remember, I always like to point out that when a guy resets the market, he's only reset the market. until the next guy resets the market, right? Like, you know, and again, this is just one agent's kind of thought process.

234.537 - 252.568 Kevin Fishbane

And now they have the fifth year option at their disposal that buys them some time. If they don't get a deal done this year, they can apply the franchise tag next year. So there's a lot of tools at their disposal. But, you know, talking to people, Mark, you know, you're looking at adding like a, you know, third or fourth year, you could be talking

252.548 - 269.41 Kevin Fishbane

$100 million, you're looking in that $20-$25 million a year range. But the way he played last year, I think the Bears would feel good about that. That'd be their guy, right? That was the first first-round pick of the Ryan Poles era. You'd have to be happy to even be having this conversation.

269.609 - 293.267 Leila Rahimi

I guess, Kevin, if your choices as the general manager of the Bears are either let your guy at right tackle Darnell Wright reset the market or franchise tag if that comes up, not obviously a this year problem, then you probably would rather a franchise tag, for example, but... When those are your options, they're both very expensive discussions that you would have to have.

293.447 - 304.206 Leila Rahimi

And even a fifth year option is another one where they can extend. But either way, you're looking at pricey scenarios for a guy who frankly deserves all of the all of the respect that has gotten to him.

Chapter 4: What are the implications of restructuring contracts for the Bears?

310.017 - 332.472 Kevin Fishbane

He's going to be a very relatively cheap player this year if he continues to play under that rookie contract. Right. If you give him the franchise tag, that's a huge cap hit for that one year that he has the tag. The fifth-year option is a big hit for that specific year. If you can work out a contract now, you can kind of massage those cap hits so they get higher. Yeah.

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332.452 - 352.384 Kevin Fishbane

We haven't even talked about the left tackle possibility, right? Do the Bears want to try him out over there this season if you're his representation? I think right tackle versus left tackle is not what it used to be, but you could have some money conversations there. So again, I think a lot of these things are in the category of good problems to have.

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352.364 - 377.325 Kevin Fishbane

It is good that their first-round pick from 2023 has played up to the point where we can have these conversations. And as you said, they're not in a rush. But the one thing to think about for them when you talk about cash flow is after the 2026 season, you start talking about guys that you drafted in 2024, and that includes the quarterback. Mm-hmm.

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377.305 - 388.763 Kevin Fishbane

So, you know, these are all things that they have to think about. Obviously, they want to think about what can we do to be competitive this year. But you also have to keep in mind stuff that's going to be floating down the line.

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388.823 - 411.168 Mark Grote

Yep. This is the real part of the NFL every year. And it is nice that the Bears have pulled up in this place where they do have to get creative because they were good. Talking to Kevin Fishbane, Bears beat writer for the Athletic, and Rahimi Harrison-Grody. here on The Score. What about contract restructuring? Because that always feels much more gentle than having to release contributors.

411.449 - 415.8 Mark Grote

What are the possibilities there? Who would be the top candidates for restructuring?

416.86 - 431.522 Kevin Fishbane

Yeah, so your big ones there are Grady Jarrett, DJ Moore, Montez Sweat. I talked to one league source who did the math for me. I was really good at math, guys, in elementary school, like really good, and then just went off a cliff.

431.542 - 433.004 Mark Grote

One plus one is two, you know what I'm saying?

Chapter 5: How can the Bears create cap space through restructuring?

433.144 - 452.591 Kevin Fishbane

I mean, that was what we're talking about. I mean, those times tables, those multiplication tables, I ran through them pretty quickly. $33 million they could create. I mean, DJ Moore's contract alone could create $17.5 million. But remember, when you're restructuring a contract, which essentially, in layman's terms, you are... um, turning a salary into a bonus.

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452.711 - 465.787 Kevin Fishbane

I'm not doing a great job with those layman terms, but that allows the cap number to come down for that year. They get the cash up front and then, but that cap number then grows moving forward. So at some point you have to deal with it.

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466.087 - 481.766 Kevin Fishbane

The new Orleans saints, you never want to be the saints cause they had a problem where they were restructuring guys left and right and just continued to have a lot of cap challenges. Uh, so those are some of the guys, Joe Tooney, you could do something with as well. Um, So all those players, they're going to be here next year.

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481.827 - 497.286 Kevin Fishbane

Now, I guess I pause there with DJ Moore because we could have a separate conversation about that. But Grady Jarrett's going to be on the team. Montez Sweat's going to be on the team. You know, Jonah Jackson, Joe Tooney. So you can do these restructures with these guys and lower their cap hits for this year.

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497.386 - 503.213 Kevin Fishbane

Give yourself some more cap space and, you know, worry about their 2027 cap hit when it's 2027.

504.003 - 522.441 Leila Rahimi

Yeah, I think it's fair. That's part of the issue is for how long can you keep doing this? You mentioned the Saints, Kevin. The Eagles come to mind. At some point, they're going to have to pay that as well just because of the deal they did with Jalen Hurts. So it is something where at some point you are going to have to address it.

522.941 - 535.52 Leila Rahimi

I guess there's really no precedent set when it comes to how far along. But in the meantime, I also think about... There's no knock on signing a guy to a contract and then having to restructure a year in.

535.6 - 548.387 Leila Rahimi

But do you think the Bears might want to stay away from that when it comes to the guys like who they just signed a deal like Grady Jarrett or like a Joe Tooney or a Dio Odengbo or somebody along the lines that has that high money but still has years left?

549.65 - 549.971 Kevin Fishbane

Yeah.

Chapter 6: What are the potential financial impacts of extending Darnell Wright?

550.051 - 572.434 Kevin Fishbane

And that's that short term, long term conversation. Right. Like it's like, well, you know, shoot, we really think we could make a deep run this year. We still have the quarterback on the rookie contract. Let's just figure out how much space we can get now to make the signings we want to make now. Now, the other conversation to have about this is who are you using that money for?

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572.414 - 591.97 Kevin Fishbane

Because we've learned in the past, certainly last year, and I think this is happening more and more, that if you want to go get better in March, that's the trade market more so than free agency. So are there guys in free agency that they're going to circle and want to bring in like they did with Drew Dahlman? Of course. are there guys they want to trade for?

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592.13 - 609.284 Kevin Fishbane

And they need to have that cap space ready for that player or two as well. Especially again, if you're kind of not going all in, but you want to be aggressive for this year. So yeah, with some of those guys, it's going to be a balancing act. Matt Feinstein's the VP of football administration. You know, this is, this is what they, this is, what he's there for.

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609.324 - 624.29 Kevin Fishbane

He's there to handle kind of these things. And the bears are generally in a, like, it's weird to say this because if you go look at, you know, cap space, they're at the bottom of the league or near the bottom compared to past years, but they are, he has put themselves in a healthy situation where it is not hard for them to get cap space.

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624.791 - 639.115 Kevin Fishbane

Um, but it then just makes things trickier year after year after year. If you have to keep doing this, but again, guys, I, I, I know I'm harping on this, but you would much rather be talking about it in these terms than saying, well, the Bears have $90 million in cap space.

639.155 - 657.805 Kevin Fishbane

They went 4-13 last year, and they have to sign four free agents and hope that all of them hit to even be competitive next year. This might be a more monotonous conversation to talk about cap space and restructuring and salary cap hits and all those things, but it means that the team is in a better spot with the talent on the field.

657.785 - 678.983 Mark Grote

Yeah, and it's important for people to know that, yes, even though you hear things like the Bears are in the red, they're under the cap, all that stuff, or they're out of money, they're not really as long as they get creative, and that's why we're having you on. Also, if I may, Kevin Fishbane, I would like to make you an offer. Or actually, I will let you fill in the blank. How much money...

678.963 - 691.18 Mark Grote

Do you want for that 1984 Chicago Cubs World Series pennant I'm seeing in your background on Twitch? Is that what I'm seeing? Maybe I need to look at your background more often.

Chapter 7: How does the trade market influence the Bears' cap strategy?

691.481 - 707.063 Mark Grote

I didn't even know they made those because it never happened, kids. The Cubs were supposed to go to the World Series in 1984 against the Tigers, but they got stunned by Tony Gwynn and the Padres. Tell me more about that pennant, fishy business.

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707.363 - 731.526 Kevin Fishbane

You know what, Grody? You found the Easter egg. So maybe because you spotted it, you should just get it. I should just give it to you. I would love to own that. That is... I was at... This is six plus years ago. I should know the date, actually. It was my wedding. at the gift table, you know, you're, you're collecting the gifts and there was a pennant just sitting on the gift table.

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731.947 - 750.688 Kevin Fishbane

That's one of my parents, friends had laying around their basement. They thought it'd be funny. Just throw it on the wedding gift table. And I put it up and I kid you not, I did not realize what it said at first. I thought it was, I thought it just said, you know, I didn't realize it said national league champions. I put it up and had it in my office.

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750.748 - 766.889 Kevin Fishbane

And then one day somebody pointed out to me like, Hey, That didn't happen. They didn't actually win the National League. I was like, oh, you know what? I feel even better about having it up right now so that I can have moments like this where one Mark Grody can spot that Easter egg over my shoulder.

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766.91 - 768.775 Mark Grote

I fell for it. Yep, I got the Easter egg.

768.94 - 780.856 Leila Rahimi

That's tremendous. If you want to see it, it is on twitch.tv slash thescoreschicago. And one of Kevin Fishbane's National Sports Media Association Writers of the Year is also on there as well.

780.876 - 783.079 Mark Grote

Just all over the place.

783.399 - 790.809 Kevin Fishbane

We also, by the way, have a 2018 Memorial Day 10U Baseball Tournament Championship trophy up there.

Chapter 8: What is the overall outlook for the Bears' salary cap management?

790.93 - 791.41 Mark Grote

Wow.

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791.53 - 792.151 Leila Rahimi

Fantastic.

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792.171 - 798.019 Mark Grote

At least time for you to have a little yard sale or garage sale just to sell all your stuff.

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797.999 - 800.064 Leila Rahimi

Don't give it away. Antiques Roadshow.

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800.144 - 814.962 Kevin Fishbane

I need to know the value of these things. Listen, that trophy is priceless to me. That was one of my greatest coaching performances of all time. I'm not sure how much it's going to get on the open market.

814.942 - 817.128 Leila Rahimi

Antiques Roadshow. That's all I have to say.

817.148 - 828.057 Mark Grote

Who's a better coach, you or Wieter? Wieter talks a big game. He really, I don't know if you're figuring that out about Weedzy, but he does like to pat himself on the back as a coach.

828.678 - 857.706 Kevin Fishbane

I mean, Dan, this might surprise you. I think Dan might be a little bit more emotional out there than I was. But Dan's a fantastic coach. I have gone to see some of his son's games. I am out of the coaching profession for a while. I did it for a long time and it was so much fun. So I like to go see my friends coaching their kids. And yeah, Dan does a phenomenal job. And I love the passion, right?

857.686 - 868.961 Kevin Fishbane

When he's sending me videos of himself running out to home plate to high-five a player, those are great. Those are pretty special.

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