Matt Spiegel reported Cubs, Red Sox had trade talks surrounding Matt Shaw

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What recent trade talks occurred between the Cubs and Red Sox?

Rahimi Harrison-Grody. The great Kevin Harlan. I just pulled through the Taco Bell drive-thru, and I've got a couple of big, nasty Supreme Burritos right here waiting to be eaten. You know, the first thing they ask you now, are you using the app? The app? No, I just want my burritos. I don't want to use an app. Bring a lot of mild sauce, because I'm going to squirt it all over the place. Put some hot sauce on my burrito, baby. Rahimi Harrison-Grody. Middays, 10 a.m. to 2 on The Score. The 2-1 delivery. Contreras lines one. Caught by Horner. Through the first. They double up. Churrio. Inning over. Zach Zabin on the call. This is Rahimi Harrison-Grote on 104.3 The Score. And guys, don't be bugging Modest Booz Ellis of the Oakville now, okay?
He blew up his spot on his own. We got to have a code here. We can't be bugging him when he's there. You just gave it away again, though. I know, but I'm just saying. Now people are going to bug him. No, don't bug him. Don't. Actually, he seems like the type of athlete or human who would be amenable to somebody coming up to him and saying, hello, Modest. He'd probably say, hello, good to see you. Yeah, because he's 21 and not yet jaded. I appreciate that. He's in his prime. He seems like a very nice person. He does. And it was nice of him to even say that. So meanwhile, you know, Kevin Harlan's going to Taco Bell and modest is at the Oakville. I like it. There's levels to this. There are people need range. Dang it.
Yeah. Kevin Harlan certainly has range. That's what I've learned from our conversations with him. Gift to us. Kevin Harlan telling us about his life every day. We love it. So you just heard the baseball call. Guess what? People are reporting and talking in Arizona. And before they do that, there's also some news about really one of the biggest questions we're going to have until we have a certainty when it comes to how this Cubs infield is settled. Alex Bregman gets signed. Matt Shaw has many years of control. He's trying to develop. Nico Horner has a massive amount of value. When you put it all together, it creates a lot of questions to this roster and how it's going to shake out, even in spring training.
This is going to be one of those things that we're going to be tracking every single day to try to figure out a good problem. Is there more talent than the infield positions allow? So Matt Spiegel yesterday on Spiegel and Holmes shared the information he received on the Cubs regarding Nico Horner and Matt Shaw. Take a listen. Nico Horner going to get traded? He has not. And I don't think he will be. I think we can close the book on the idea that Nico was going to get dealt because the last team that desperately needed a second baseman and an infielder really to try and sort it out was the Boston Red Sox. And some stuff went on this week. The Boston Red Sox did call the Cubs. about Nico Horner. They ended up talking more about Matt Shaw than Nico Horner.
And then the Boston Red Sox traded with the Brewers for Caleb Durbin. That fills their need. They did not get what they wanted from the Cubs in terms of Nico. And the Matt Shaw conversations apparently did not go well enough for both sides to consummate something there. But I think we can sit in good thought that Nico Horner will be a member of these Chicago Cubs. We can relax about that. The Red Sox are your friends. They took Caleb Durbin from Milwaukee. Get him out of there. I like this news from Speaks because, let's be honest, none of us wanted to see Nico Horner traded if we were invested in the Cubs' success in the 2026 season. It was never going to make sense to me to trade him before the season even started.
Now, at the deadline, that could be different. I'm not saying it will be, but it could be different. But you want to start off feeling like you are full bore, full go. And Nico Horner not in this lineup, to me, was going to be a failure on the Cubs front office. Well, it's the dichotomy of you have more qualified infielders than you have positions available. And you have a player arguably at the height of his powers right now.

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