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Rahimi, Harris & Grote Show

Should the Cubs consider trading Seiya Suzuki?

12 Jun 2026

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Chapter 1: What sparked the debate about trading Seiya Suzuki?

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Rahimi Harris and Grody. Middays 10 to 2 on 104.3 The Score. Cubs trail by a run. Here's the pitch. Suzuki drives one in the air. Deep left field. It's got a chance. Grand slam home run. Seiya Suzuki with a granny.

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24.415 - 46.156 Leila Rahimi

That was Pat Hughes on the call on the Northwestern Medicine Cubs radio network. The grand slam by Seiya Suzuki that really got the scoring broken open for the Cubs after their win over the Colorado Rockies yesterday. This is Rahimi Harrison-Grody on 104.3 The Score. Just when things start to go right for Seah, we've seen a couple of really good hits.

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46.236 - 56.516 Leila Rahimi

I think he has had a better to the eye at least few weeks. Ken Rosenthal, on foul territory yesterday, pitched this trade idea for the Cubs.

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Seah Suzuki, because he is a right-handed hitter, has particular value in today's game because... Basically, you cannot find quality right-handed hitters. It's a real problem. And I have a stat in the story today. Going into yesterday's play, the OPS for all right-handed hitters in Major League Baseball was 696. That would be the lowest since 1992. So Suzuki would have value in that sense.

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Teams covet right-handed hitters. And the Cubs... because of the situation they're in, not just with the number of potential free agents, but the team in general, they've fallen apart. So they're a team that probably will look to shake it up. You remember at one time they were 27 and 12, since then they're seven and 22. At one time when they were 27 and 12, they led the majors in runs per game.

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Right now, since that time in this seven and 22 stretch, They're next to last ahead of only the Padres. You see the numbers right there. It's incredible how they've fallen. They're scoring almost two and a half runs per game fewer than they were when they were hot.

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I don't know how to explain this, but this is a team that back at 500 now, and I imagine at some point they're going to need to make some difficult decisions. Suzuki could be one of them. Now, he has a no-trade clause, but at the same time, players in their free agent years generally will be open to waiving their no-trade clauses because it takes off the qualifying offer.

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And that would be enticing.

152.615 - 172.986 Leila Rahimi

Okay, I see why he's saying it, and Ken Rosenthal is the best at explaining things. But what do you want? For the Cubs to lose every game 1-0 then? You have to retain some of your hitting. I don't know what to do about this. I think the bigger illustration here, Mark and Marshall, is the fact that this is triage.

Chapter 2: What value does Seiya Suzuki bring to the Cubs as a right-handed hitter?

203.255 - 208.864 Marshall Harris

I mean, I'm sure he doesn't want to just give away half a season on a team that isn't necessarily a contender.

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209.004 - 210.968 Leila Rahimi

Yeah, like you're not trading him for Scooble.

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211.248 - 215.355 Mark Grote

Right, right, right. Well, isn't it going to be a contender that's going to be going after him?

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215.375 - 233.336 Marshall Harris

It might be just a team that needs a boost and thinks they can contend. That's part of the issue. So many teams now, when you lead up to the trade deadline, like let's say the week and a half, two weeks before the trade deadline, still believe that they're in it based on the fact that there are three, four games maybe out of either a division lead or a wild card spot.

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233.556 - 248.97 Marshall Harris

But we know only six teams are making it from each league. I think the main stat I want to point to here when you talk about what the Cubs need to do to get better, whether it includes, say, a Suzuki being traded or not, when the Cubs score three runs or fewer this season, They are 6-24.

249.03 - 254.758 Leila Rahimi

And that's a big number given they have only played so many games so far this season.

254.778 - 265.032 Marshall Harris

Yeah, it's a big number because this. To realize that, understand, the Cubs have only played 69 games. In 30 of those 69 games, they've scored three runs or fewer.

265.913 - 269.258 Leila Rahimi

I mean, that's roughly half when we put the math together.

269.558 - 291.808 Marshall Harris

And so because of that specific stat, I wonder, now that Matt Shaw is back... And you have obviously had more than what maybe you expected out of Michael Conforto. And we know Moises Ballesteros is capable, even if he hasn't shown it consistently over time. Is your team better off without, say, a Suzuki on it if you get a starter?

Chapter 3: How has the Cubs' performance changed this season?

428.893 - 452.385 Leila Rahimi

That's a responsibility they gave him. And this is obviously prior to Kyle Tucker. So that's kind of where I still see him. And I know his numbers have not been indicative of that. But we did just talk about a grand slam by him. I think it says more about how we need to view the Cubs. Because Ken Rosenthal is viewing the Cubs in this way. Where you might have to cut off your ear to save your nose.

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452.804 - 457.017 Leila Rahimi

then what's more important? You know, that's where this comes down to.

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457.037 - 457.98 Mark Grote

You mean pitching or hitting?

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458.02 - 475.213 Leila Rahimi

Yeah. I mean, that's it. You have to get rid of something very important to save something else that's also very important. And if that's the case, we know you're not a complete team. So what are you trying to salvage at this point to try to get yourselves to stay in a playoff race?

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475.534 - 482.302 Leila Rahimi

And if that's how the league is seeing this, if that's how the rest of the league is seeing this, then that's a pretty interesting assessment that's been made.

482.703 - 488.11 Marshall Harris

You know who brought up something that was great earlier today?

489.187 - 513.338 Marshall Harris

and i was not shocked that he brought it up it was just funny the source brad biggs i don't know if you guys heard him with mullion hall brad biggs baseball trees with did you hear what he said about the iowa cubs and their team era oh not good and it's last in the in in the uh international league and even if you take the other triple a league the pacific coast league which we know more prone for runs home runs than anything of the sort

514.195 - 533.863 Marshall Harris

they would still be like the third worst in all of AAA baseball because there's no answers down there as far as pitching goes. And when you don't know what's going on with Jackson Wiggins and you don't know what's going on with Jordan Wicks and there's no... Unfortunately, I think we found out what was going on.

533.883 - 551.559 Marshall Harris

We may know what's going on with Jordan Wicks and he's not a viable option going forward. But my point is, I think pitching is more important than hitting because I think they have other ways they can come up with some hitting. But the pitching, man, you've got to have guys who get outs. And right now they don't have enough out-getters. Who's your opening?

Chapter 4: What challenges does Seiya Suzuki face with his no-trade clause?

582.893 - 591.156 Leila Rahimi

But one is when he's inconsistent, it's really bad. And the other one may still get you from point A to point B. No, no, here's why, here's why.

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591.176 - 598.916 Marshall Harris

Before yesterday, do you know how long back you had to go to see an Edward Cabrera start where he gave up Less than three runs?

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599.036 - 600.378 Leila Rahimi

Yeah, it's been a long time.

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600.418 - 606.844 Mark Grote

He was the starter in the 18-3 game. That just crushed him. It crushed his soul. It crushed my soul.

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606.904 - 617.595 Leila Rahimi

But you know what's so frustrating is here we are talking about these guys when the Cubs said in the offseason, well, we really need pitching. So their solution was getting Edward Cabrera.

617.615 - 622.3 Mark Grote

No, no, no. Which looked great. I mean, they did address the pitching issue.

622.28 - 636.801 Leila Rahimi

You know, I will say to our texters' credit, we had a couple of texters express concern at the time about how many miles were on his arm because we knew he was coming off of a career high in innings and how there were some injury concerns. We did have a couple of texters say that.

637.262 - 651.443 Leila Rahimi

And to everybody's credit, we had a few people say, oh, have you seen how Michael Soroka's velo has been down before the Cubs traded for him? And the Cubs claim they do. And at times I feel like I don't entirely know how much they knew.

651.845 - 673.38 Marshall Harris

For the Edward Cabrera portion of this conversation, I just want to lay it out so everybody is on the same page with this. Edward Cabrera threw six innings of one-hit scoreless ball in his season debut. He followed that up with five and two-thirds innings of one-hit ball in his second start. Since then... Yesterday was the first time he gave up less than three runs.

Chapter 5: What factors should the Cubs consider before trading Suzuki?

768.005 - 783.09 Leila Rahimi

People are like, you two are crazy. Well, are we crazy now? We weren't supposed to be happening. Somebody's been dependable. One pair of sunglasses you keep losing. The other one you keep keeping even though it's cheaper. The cheaper pair of sunglasses that you don't manage to lose is Colin Ray in this situation.

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783.11 - 785.774 Mark Grote

What about the readers I keep losing, though, Layla? What about these?

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785.935 - 787.337 Leila Rahimi

How much money are you spending on them?

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787.317 - 790.243 Mark Grote

Oh, I don't know. I've spent about $10 a week on readers, I think.

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790.303 - 792.507 Leila Rahimi

I'd say you're even Steven then. A week? A week?

792.747 - 793.869 Mark Grote

Yeah, something like that.

794.07 - 797.476 Leila Rahimi

What is your umbrella and readers budget every month?

797.496 - 803.267 Mark Grote

It's pretty high. I have to set aside a special bank account just for the loss of readers.

803.247 - 807.051 Marshall Harris

And umbrellas. Do you find them in your house later after you lose them?

Chapter 6: How does the Cubs' current hitting performance impact their trade decisions?

851.669 - 853.993 Mark Grote

He has played with all those and chewed them all up.

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855.094 - 856.356 Marshall Harris

He's a unique cat.

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857.804 - 874.615 Leila Rahimi

That's a good way to get into our next conversation. There's been some, dare I say, woody banter in the NFL when it has come down to the Caleb Williams, Micah Parsons, who's in the top 100 discourse. And Caleb Williams was asked about it yesterday. So we'll discuss next.

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