Transition: Is Grote sure the Cubs' demons have been exorcised?

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What are the early thoughts on the White Sox's trade strategies?

Mark Grote 0:01
It ain't worth it, Stoney, to go get Tarek Skubal and give your team extra wind too early in the process, too early in the rebuild to be giving up real resources at this point?
Steve Stone 0:12
Well, if you think that the White Sox are going after Tarek Skubal, I think perhaps they should check the water over there in your building.
Marshall Harris 0:23
I love the pause after. I let you ride that one out. I got stoned, man.
Mark Grote 0:28
That's what happened.
Marshall Harris 0:28
See, when you ask me questions, I give you nice answers. Stone just gets right to the heart of it. It happens to all of us.
Mark Grote 0:34
I know. I know. I just thought that I had some immunity to it, but I don't. And the ironic part about it is I don't necessarily want the White Sox to trade their whole roster to get Scooble. Kind of just wanted to hear what Stone had to say, but we'll have somebody check the water at some point in time. No.

How does Steve Stone's perspective influence the discussion?

Mark Grote 0:52
yes welcome back into the rahimi harrison grody show on the score and just remember if you've noticed it that means steve has also noticed that's true see you have that that's pretty cool matt spiegel we'll get to you in just a second sir thank you to our producers ray diaz tyler buterbaugh Brandon Fryer. I see you, Brandon Fryer. Our video producers are Connor O'Donnell, Jacob Stutz, and Max Curtis. And thank you to our wonderful guests, including the great Steve Stone. He joined us today to talk about the White Sox. Mark Potash was on talking about the Bears and the Cubs and the White Sox. We talked to Jamal Collier as well of The Athletic about the new Bulls boss. And Transition is brought to you by Torque Coatings, high-performance coatings for your home or business.
Mark Grote 1:43
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Matt Spiegel 1:47
Just know that Steve will stone you when you're walking on the street. He will stone you when you're trying to keep your seat.
Mark Grote 1:55
Everybody must get stoned.

What challenges are the Cubs facing this season?

Matt Spiegel 1:58
It's never happened to me. Marshall, there's still time.
Mark Grote 2:04
Yeah, he doesn't care about the—and this is the right attitude. Steve Stone, the two games against the Yankees, all good. Don't worry about it. They're just losses. They look bad because they're slaughterings, actually, is what they feel like.
Matt Spiegel 2:18
They looked worse in game one. Last night didn't look as bad in terms of stupid play and bad play.
Laurence Holmes 2:23
Yeah, they didn't play as poorly as they did in the first game, but they did pitch as poorly as they did in the first game. That has become a problem. Poor Anthony Kaye back in New York City and just looked shaky. Got a couple of guys that you've been counting on the last couple times through the rotation. look like pumpkins a little bit.
Mark Grote 2:43
Yeah, and I said that about the Cubs too.

How does the pitching rotation impact team performance?

Mark Grote 2:45
We've gotten to this point where, and you can say it about Davis Martin as well. That'd probably be a good comp on the other side. With Ben Brown and the success that he's had, it's gotten to the point where we have to have that success out of him. When he goes out there, I need him to do that. And that may not be fair. And it's the same thing with Davis Martin. I need Davis Martin to go out there and be the ace of the staff, even if that's not fair. Fair to put those expectations on those guys.
Laurence Holmes 3:13
Grody, you hit on something that we were talking about as a show yesterday. And it's this idea of looking at the Cubs and kind of where they're at. And you're right. Ben Brown is a happy, like, wow, we did a really good job with development and we didn't give up on a guy who's got a whole bunch of talent. but he's not supposed to be at the top of your rotation now.
Matt Spiegel 3:37
Nobody's supposed to be here. He's your best pitcher and your most important pitcher.

What expectations are placed on emerging players like Ben Brown?

Mark Grote 3:42
And he has to keep on being, and that's the part where I'm uncomfortable. And he might. We might be in the midst of an absolute revelation that Ben Brown is a top-of-the-rotation starter, but are we?
Matt Spiegel 3:53
That Cubs game last night was 8-1 at one point. It was. And when it's 8-1, I'm like, this is not over. Well, because you know what's in the bullpen. Because most teams have like four or five or six dudes who can throw at 97, 98, and the Cubs have one, and that's Palencia. So now they have, checks notes, none.

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