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Ray D'Arcy Daily

Would you listen to AI generated music ?

15 Jun 2026

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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?

3.153 - 27.54 Ray D'Arcy

So that's good news overnight. Peace has broken out between America and Iran. That was his birthday present. Donald Trump celebrated his 80th birthday yesterday in the White House with lads beating the heads off each other on the front lawn. That's fitting for a man of his ilk. And then a memorandum of understanding was announced.

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So that was all staged, obviously, that it would happen on his birthday. That's not the way you do serious stuff. He ended a war which he started. He's taking credit for ending a war that he started. It's real king stuff, isn't it? It is king stuff. The king would like the ending of the war for his 80th birthday. Thank you very much. I will sit here and watch people beat the head off each other.

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And then it will be announced. A memorandum of understanding that the war is over. Everybody will thank me and I will get a Nobel Peace Prize. No, you won't. You delusional narcissist.

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Chapter 2: How does Steve Bartlett's wine clip relate to optimization?

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They did a thing in the Guardian magazine over the weekend, asked people, well-known people, to send a birthday greeting to Donald Trump. Mick Lynch is there. You know Mick, the trade unionist. His dad's from Cork, his mother's from Armagh. It sounds like the beginning of a Micheál Amara Hurtig commentary. So Mick Lynch...

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You can imagine he's not a huge fan of Donald Trump, if you know anything about Mick Lynch. And he says, Dear Donald, President of the United States, on your birthday, hair is wispy, skin's gone crispy, now you're 80, don't be so hatey. Yeah, that's good, isn't it? Don't be so hatey, Donald. Don't be so hatey. It's mad that the leader of the free world, the most powerful man,

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One of the most, probably the most powerful man in the world is not a serious person. He's not a serious person to use that quote from Succession. And that's very worrying. We know that already. I don't need to remind you of that. The brilliant thing is, of course, there's that beautiful distraction of the World Cup. It's taken all our minds off. What's going on?

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I know, not everybody is into the World Cup, only some people. Curacao. I'd never heard of Curacao before the weekend. It's a little island off the north coast of Venezuela. It's part of the Kingdom of the Netherlands, population 155,000. And they're up against the world beaters, Germany. in the World Cup.

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Now, nobody expected Curacao, population 150,000, up against Germany, population, what is it, 85 million. or 83 million. So Germany's population is, by my calculations, over 550 times that of Curaçao.

Chapter 3: What are the psychological effects of optimization on individuals?

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Anyway, Germany went in front around six minutes into the game.

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But then, just before the 22nd minute, very, very exciting. Who gets the goal? That's crazy stuff. Crazy thumbs up. Oh, wow.

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Wow, yeah. Vivana Cominencia was the goal scorer. Won all. And it stayed like that until the 38th minute. Then they scored again. Then again and again and again. And it was 7-1. But for those, what, 16 minutes between the 21st minute and the 37th or 38th, Curacao were up there with the best. That's very exciting, isn't it? That sport, that's the World Cup, that's the beauty of it all.

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There's competition, not just on the field. There's competition when it comes to broadcasting and streaming. And so ITV, they're over there. Gary Lineker and the rest is football on Netflix. They're over there. The BBC, they're not over there. RT, they're not over there. As in the studio. I watched a bit of The Rest is Football. So it's Gary Lineker, Alan Shearer and Micah Richards.

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And they're in this penthouse loft apartment type place. Not a penthouse because it's not on the top floor. It's a loft apartment type place and it's overlooking Times Square. So you can see the Gap Shop and the Old Navy Shop outside it. And as the light changes, you can see the lights come on outside. It's quite spectacular and it's a huge, huge area. There's loads of different

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there's a couch and then there's another couch and then there's a kitchen table type thing where they can sit and do interviews and they always have a drink they always have a glass of wine or a beer and they have guests some of them are football guests like Joe Cole was on it Frank Lampard his wife was there Niall Horne he was on it as well what they don't have they have the view and the soft furnishings and the drinks and all that but

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of course they don't have footage They don't have the rights. The BBC have the rights. RT have the rights. ITV have the rights. So I don't know.

Chapter 4: How does AI-generated music impact the music industry?

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They're saying that this is the way young people watch sports. That they watch little clips on YouTube and then they go and they want the opinions on what they've just seen. And Netflix and Gary Lineker are hoping that they'll go to them for the opinions. They all seem very relaxed today. They're having the crack, playing darts, telling old war stories. And people love that.

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If you're a football fan, a real football fan, you want to hear Joe Cole and Frank Lampard and Alan Shearer and Gary Lineker chat about the old times. And various managers were talking about Jose Mourinho the other night. Niall Horan is a big fan. He talked about his dad bringing them over to see Derby County play on the ferry. So it's nice, cosy.

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I don't know if you'd break out of a game to go and watch it. I don't know when you'd watch it, but it's there anyway. It's there. And then you have James McLean, who's new to the RT panel. Interesting to see how he'll develop. It must be difficult at start because you're a footballer. Maybe you're not a talker, naturally. Of course, you know you're football.

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And now it's the job of RT and the people to get him to come out of his shell a bit. Anyway, early days, early days and all of that. Curacao. There's also a drink called Curacao. Did you know that? Yeah. It's made from the laraha, the peel of the laraha, citrus fruit grown there. It's a tiny little island, 150,000. I saw a headline the other day and a lot of headlines there are questions.

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And what I do is I just answer them in my head. So, should they play AI songs on the radio?

Chapter 5: What are the implications of AI in content creation?

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No, is the answer to that. That's it. They shouldn't play AI songs on the radio. And then I went down a bit of a rabbit hole when it came to AI generated music. And the most recent article I found on it was in the Atlantic magazine. And it's about a core case between some of the major record labels and sites that generate AI music. Suno is one of them. S-U-N-O. S-U-N-O.

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So if you, for example, if you put these instructions into Suno, pop, male singer-songwriter, artist that rhymes with Fred Sheeran, tropical house, minor. Minor is the key, I think. So you put, if you put, because it's all about prompts with AI. So you want to pop and you want a male singer, songwriter, artist that rhymes with Fred Sheeran, Tropical House Minor.

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So it'll go away and scrape the internet and it'll come up with something, you know, probably in less than a minute.

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That's AI generated from those prompts. Yeah, it's not as good.

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So this guy, Alex Reisner, who's writing for The Atlantic, has done a good bit of research on it, and he has found these data sets of songs which are used to train AI. One of them has 12 million songs, 12 million songs. Now, just to give you an idea of the vastness of 12 million songs, it would take you 91 years to listen to all of those songs. That's if you're doing it 24-7. 91 years.

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And AI could just go, have a bit of that, have a bit of that, have a bit of that, have a bit of that. There's your song. Thank you very much. Good luck. So what are the implications? I don't know what the implications are. One of the implications I think is that the music industry as it stands is going to have to change.

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I saw a guy I've been interviewed, he's a guy called Paul Connolly, the Wood Burning Savages. He's the lead singer.

Chapter 6: How do personal experiences shape perspectives on alcohol?

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It's an alternative punk band in the UK and he's given up music. He feels angry and deflated at the development of AI generated music. And then there's another guy called Oliver McCann and he does AI generated music. He generated a song called Stone on Suno and it was the first AI generated song to reach one million streams.

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And he's saying AI handles what used to take a room full of people and a six figure studio budget so I can move faster and stay focused on the story and emotional core of the song. Yeah. I don't want to listen to your music, Oliver McCann. The worrying thing is that when we spoke to Steve Denham, the poet, recently, he said he was listening to jazz while writing poetry one evening.

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And it was on some sort of YouTube playlist and he heard something that he didn't recognise but liked it. And when he investigated, it was jazz generated by AI. So to him, he hadn't spotted the difference between Miles Davis, which he was listening to, and this AI-generated jazz. Yeah. You can't beat this. Like, listen to this, for example.

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676.061 - 685.656 Isa Whitney

You abandoned me Love don't live here anymore AI will never be able to do that.

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That's Gwen Dickey, lead singer with Rose Royce and Love Don't Live Here Anymore. Rod Stewart. See, they'll never be able to do that.

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And there's something that touches you.

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There's something that grabs you. Isn't there? Something that grabs your emotions. And even this. That's Andy Bell. With the razor. And all the more. AI will never be able to do that. Is that? F off.

Chapter 7: What are the challenges of discussing alcohol consumption openly?

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F off. AI and Suno. Go away. Leave us alone. The reason I played those four songs in particular was because Jenny and I were watching the BBC on Saturday night. Jenny had gone out to do something and we were watching something on one of the streamers. And when she does that, I go and I look or flick around. And in flicking around, I found this programme on BBC Two, I think it was.

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And they were playing 40 originals sung at the BBC. So all of those songs had been the originals of cover versions. For example... Jimmy Nail murdered that one. He did a cover version of that. Maxi Priest did a nice version of that sort of summer light. Dollar had a hit with that.

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talk about everything but the girl had a huge hit which I don't want to talk about but we were sitting there on the couch singing along neither of us can sing Jenny has probably a note in her head I don't have a note at all a fraction of a note in my head but the two of us were singing along to these songs on the telly you're never going to be singing along to I'm in love with the shape of you we push and pull

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Go away. Leave us alone. Is it okay to play AI songs on the radio? No! What do you say? It's a hard no from me. A hard no from me. I'm a big fan, a huge fan of Ciara McGeehan, our runner. And Ciara was in the newspapers, on the radio over the weekend because she's written a memoir of her life. She was diagnosed with cancer at the age of 33. And in reading the interviews, it's heartbreaking.

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It's heartbreaking. to read how herself and her fiance had their life planned ahead of them. It's heartbreaking to read how when you go through the stats of people who get bowel cancer, she shouldn't have got it.

Chapter 8: How can we balance self-improvement with mental health?

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She shouldn't have got it. She's not of the age, not of the lifestyle profile. It was just really unbelievably, statistically horribly bad luck. And she's saying she probably won't see her 40th birthday. But you should read the articles. And I'm going to get the book as well. Because there's a woman who represented us at the highest level in the 1500 metres.

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And she was always a great ambassador for the sport and for Ireland and for herself. Bright, intelligent, engaging woman. no-nonsense woman. And she brings all of that to her cancer diagnosis. So, as I say, she's a new book out and she was interviewed in all the papers and on radio over the weekend. And we wish her well. We wish her well.

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Yeah, we got a good bit of correspondence over the weekend to Ray at DarcyDaily.com, Ray at DarcyDaily.com. I'm going to leave that for Jenny. But coming up in a moment, we're talking to Colman Nocter about Stephen Bartlett, that man from the Diary of a CEO, and what he was saying about three glasses of wine and how it affected him. So we're joined by Colman Nocturne, psychotherapist.

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Hello, Colman. How are you, Ray? How are you? Good. You're a big fan of Steve Bartlett, the CEO, Diary of a CEO. I'm joking. I don't know if you are or not, but he's been in the news a lot because of something he said in December. Isn't it odd the way these things happen?

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You say something in a podcast, it goes unnoticed and then somebody picks it up and they make an Instagram post of it and it goes viral. So will we play it in first and then, or do you need some context? Maybe give us some context.

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Yeah, no, I suppose the idea around, I mean, Steve Bartlett is an example of somebody who's kind of, what he's talking about is a culture of optimization, which is like where everything we do in our lives is a metric of trying to improve, trying to enhance, and trying to optimize everything from our sleep to our exercise to our diet, etc.,

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And that's a thing that's slipped into culture quite a lot. And I would see that in my therapy room where people would come with that, I suppose, a lens through which they see themselves in the world that would seem quite obsessional and maybe perfectionistic.

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But yeah, no, Steve Bartlett's comments that you're going to play, they captured the imagination of people on both sides of it, probably when it comes to optimization, for sure. Yeah.

1028.225 - 1046.132 Steven Bartlett

Okay, here we go. It's one of those areas where you don't understand the hidden cost until you really give it up for a while. And I think about my own relationship with drinking. And I stopped drinking at 30 years old. I'm now 33. And I had just drank because I just drank. I'd never ran the experiment of just giving it up for a while. And then, like, I don't know, maybe I was at 31.

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