Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
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So today will be one of the best shows I've ever given you because, just by chance, there's a whole bunch of persuasion-related, Trump-related things happening, and they're all delicious, and they'll all teach you something. But we're going to start with, oh, by the way, after the show, immediately after this, Owen Gregorian will be hosting another Spaces event on the X platform.
So look for Owen Gregorian. If you search for him, it'll pop right up. And then it's audio only. But you can ask questions and you can participate and you'll love it. Anyway, President Trump has issued an order to temporarily terminate what's called temporary status for Somalians, some kind of temporary protective status.
So I guess they had some kind of special characterization because the Somalians were assumed to be in more danger than other people. And that allowed a lot of Somalians to come over here. And do you remember, was it just yesterday or the day before yesterday? You can remind me. Remember what I was saying that whenever you see a news story.
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Chapter 2: How does Trump's temporary status termination affect Somalians?
Now, I do believe that it's observable that you would observably see that a lot of sites were closed. I don't know. It's hundreds. That's the only thing I question. So what do you make of that? Do you make of it that it would be a mistake or was a mistake to send away all the people who know how to build stuff? I already know what you're going to say in the comments.
Shall I summarize your comments without even reading them? I believe I can. Some of you are going to say, too bad, too bad. Why did you start a construction company that depended on non-American workers? Whose problem is that? Not my problem, right? Now, does that capture some of your comments? Yeah, it's just not your problem. But I would argue we are all part of this big old economy.
And if it were this problem once, you might say, well, that construction owner guy made a mistake. That's his problem. But what if it really is hundreds and it's only in one city there are hundreds? That's going to be magnified all over the country, right? Are you okay with that? And then the real question is, Kind of depends how long it lasts, right?
If you said to me, Scott, Scott, answer me this. Yeah, there might be a few days where they have to hire American-born workers and replace all the foreign-born people who got deported. It might take a few days. What would I say to that? I would say, a few days, you say. Like how many days? What's a few days? Well, I don't know, two weeks.
I would say two weeks to convert from foreign-born to American-born workers in these good jobs. Totally, yeah, sign me up for that. I would definitely take a two-week total national disruption if at the end of it we had American-born workers and that's what we wanted. But what if it's not two weeks? What if it's six months? Well, now you get a whole different problem.
What if it is six months and then half of the people who are in the construction business go out of business? Because they can't hold on for six months. So did we even create a path for the construction industry to survive? I don't know the answer to that, but it's a pretty big question. So I would feel very different
if there was simply a disruption in the economy versus destroying the entire construction industry in a way that almost can't go back. And do we know which one of those is going to happen? Because I don't. I'm watching pretty carefully. I don't know what's going to happen. I think the general feeling, and I'm going to say something that sounds a little biased here because it is.
The general feeling is that for people who are not close to the employment market, which is a lot of us, I don't think people understand employment. how woefully under-trained American-born workers are. I don't think you know how hard it's going to be to get them trained up to the point that they can match the work of the foreign-born people. Now, should we do it anyway? Because it's hard?
That's a good argument. The fact that it's hard shouldn't stop you from doing it if you want to get to that end point. But we do not know what's going to happen. We don't know.
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Chapter 3: What led to Marjorie Taylor Greene's resignation?
People who were his supporters that you wouldn't think would be on the same ship. That's why I call it a pirate ship because it's all these weirdos. And weirdos, I say with love, not with insult. And he never left that model. And I always thought that is the strongest frame you're ever going to see.
Because once you've established that you're the only one who can have any kind of pirate, you get all the good pirates.
right if you're trying to pick teams and you've established that you'll not only work with the pirate you'll make them head of a cabinet position that's a real strong power so yeah the the pirate ship mentality if you're treating the pirates as a positive like i don't care what you did before rfk jr i don't care if you ate a eat a whale's head or i don't know what he's accused of doing
But as long as you can do this thing for me and for the country, we're going to do this thing. Pirate ship, very powerful. What else? I saw a body language expert looking at Zoran in the Oval Office and thought that he was being very reserved, but also seemed to be relaxed. I don't know about the relaxed part. I might disagree with that. But he seemed to be, have been put at ease.
I think both of them knew how to put each other at ease and did a good job of it. And let's say, and Trump said about Zoran that he couldn't have been nicer. And I thought to myself, that is just a superpower, isn't it? Being nice to people is really powerful. Even if it's the president of the United States, If you're nice to him, who knows what could happen? All right, but here's the best part.
I'm getting to the real payoff here on persuasion. Now you're really going to learn something next. You ready? Do you remember when Zoran and maybe some other people trotted out the word affordability? Do you remember what I said on my show here? And I was just swooning at how smart that was. I'd never heard affordability being used as the main word. Of course, it's a normal word that people use.
But I'd never heard it used as sort of the campaign's main theme. And I thought to myself, oh, my God, you can't really beat that. So what are Republicans going to do to counter that? You can't really beat affordability. It's so well chosen. It's not overused. So it's not like you remember Kerry did it when he read. Nothing like that. So it's fresh. It's perfect. It's on point.
Everybody feels it. It works for all kinds of categories. It's just a great word. And I don't think you can beat it. So then Trump runs into this word. He would have, I believe, exactly the same reaction to it that I did, which is, oh, crap. That's a really good word. What am I going to do about that? But as you know, Trump is the unmatched persuasion expert of our time.
Is there anything he could have done to counter the effectiveness of affordability? Anything? Anything? Is there any way to play that? I couldn't think of one. I was coming up blank, and I think about this stuff all the time. I didn't really have a good answer. So what did Trump do? Do you know what he did?
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