Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
And if any of you can see me, that would be amazing. So I can see some of you. The trick here is to view all and pretend you're all in my living room. So this is Shelly Adams, for those of you who have not yet met her. And now I know how early I have to get up. There does seem to be no way that I can figure out how to get all the right people up here. So let's see how many people we can get.
This will be an adventure. Shall we say something so we know they can hear you? Can you hear me? Looks like it might work. The problem will be getting extra people up here. So that would be the problem. Let's see. Hmm.
how about we make it excuse me loud and clear well if you can hear me loud and clear you can probably hear her just run the same microphone and same camera so i would like to start out with happy birthday mike burt so we're trying to get everything together It's a birthday for our regular Mike Burt, 50 years old today. We couldn't let that go by. All right.
So in case you didn't know the importance of Shelly, she will be the head of the estate and the boss of everything. And I think she had a few words to give you about What role will be going forward? Ready for that? Let's do that. Good morning, everybody. Yes, I'm Shelly. I don't know if Scott wants to introduce me as, but I am his ex. First ex. First ex.
I just want to tell you a little bit about myself. And I'm going to start by, first of all, I want to just start by saying this is not my world. Social media is not my world. It had to be my world. Yeah. All right. So I want to first of all thank Nicole yesterday, the shy one with the glasses that Scott kept pointing out because that's probably me times two.
So thank you, Nicole, for giving me the courage to get on here this morning. Just a little bit about myself. Before Scott, I worked in the corporate office in Foster City as a retirement specialist before having kids. I started working for Scott in 2003.
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Chapter 2: How does Shelly Adams describe her role in Scott's life?
My main job, I would say, would be to gather all his Dilbert subscribers email ideas of their crazy workplace stories. And they would send in all these great stories to give him inspiration for the comic strip. I kind of pulled them all together, tried to weed out the really good ones and put them together for him. and so that he could quickly just look at them and get his idea for the day.
So that was my main job and a lot of other jobs. I did get my real estate license. after we split up and I pursued that real estate and property management and that was very successful. But I continued to be in Scott's life the entire time we were best friends. So that continued. I have a beautiful daughter, Savannah. who when Scott and I met, she was only five years old.
He helped raise her, and she just got married last year. She got married to Jacob, and I now have a son-in-law and hoping someday to have grandchildren. They're the perfect together. I'm married, remarried, And I been with my husband for going on 12 years. We waited until 10 year anniversary and we decided to have a big backyard wedding. So it was beautiful. He came with two bonus sons.
So I have two more sons. And I just want to give a shout out to him, to my husband, Pat, for understanding and being so supportive of my relationship with Scott through all the years and through going through this with him. But I have the biggest job ahead of me, which is now to keep Scott's legacy alive. And I'm gonna need the help of all of you guys to do that.
And I know you've supported him all these years and he loves you guys. And I know you're gonna support me to keep his legacy going. And I think that's all I wanted to say. The short version of that is that she's the new, well, she had the job that Owen has, making sure that things run smoothly on this end. And only in the sense that she was picking up good stories for me.
And now Owen is the picker. So Shelly is the boss of all bosses. So I'm having increasing trouble talking. And obviously I have no mobility. So without Shelly, this operation would come to a halt. And she's the person I trust the most in the entire world. Now, one of the things I like about Shelley is that no matter how scary something is, she is unwanted.
So that's one of the most impressive things about her. We don't know what we're doing right now, but that never stops her. So we'll work through this one way or another. Now, what I was hoping to do, as most of you know, is convert from coffee with Scott Adams to more of a we'll figure it out as we go,
But we're moving toward a situation where, wow, I have to tell you, I've never been on this many drugs before in my life. I had a tough time with the cough last night. And so I'm just absolutely loaded up with meds. All legal. Every bit of it is legal. Um, so the hardest thing I was trying to do is get, uh, other people invited up. So I'm gonna see if I can do that.
But as soon as people can talk, uh, you can just go ahead and talk. So if there's something to ask, something to add, and you could talk about the news or you could talk about this or you could have, I think we just accept them. We can accept all, right? We'll just accept a few for now. Well, I'm trying to make sure we're accepting Owen and Erica and maybe Marcella.
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Chapter 3: What insights does Shelly share about her past experiences?
Thank you. It's a pleasure to meet you, Shelly. Thank you for joining. That was a Heartfelt introduction. We're so glad to have you as the protector of this community and the guide for us all. Thank you. So did anybody happen to catch any news? Has Iran fallen yet? No. They're all still standing and they're being defiant. They're threatening to fight back really hard right now.
Now, I can't hear Marcella. Is that because you have your mic off or I do? Turn on your mic. Sorry, I didn't see the mute button. Good morning. Good morning, Shelley. Thank you for being here. You're amazing. No, it will fall, and I'll tell you why. The main reason is that in the previous protest, it was just the youth that were protesting and the women.
But what he's lost, the community has lost support of the middle and upper class, the star class. And that is what keeps him going with Arlene and the money. So yesterday we made a speech to the nation to tell them that whatever they were doing was against the law and against God. And basically that means that anybody could be shot on the spot.
and executed for protesting, but people are still going out doing it. It's been 46 years. They are tired. They just want to do it. And I think what pushes them is Trump, you know, knowing that they have Trump there. But I'll let everybody else speak. So we don't know how to add Owen yet. In theory. Let me get back to that, Marcel.
In theory, if we add Owen, but he doesn't turn on his camera, he can be anonymous. Is that true? I still have to figure out how to add him. I told Owen that he could wear a mask. Oh, my God, that scared you. That's mean. Hey, Scott. Hi. Hi, Mike Bird. Josh. Hey, sir. That's awesome. So it's you we're talking to, right? Yes. That's me right now.
So I was telling Owen that he could wear a mask, like the Mask Avenger or something, you know? Well, I spent like an hour last night talking to Erica, trying to figure out how to add a person. And unfortunately, she was using instructions from Grok. Now, I don't know if you've ever tried to get instructions from Grok about anything, about anything, but it's damn near impossible.
And it has very specific instructions, but it's about menus that don't exist. Have you had that same experience? It starts out with, all right, use the main community button. And I'll go to the place. There'll be no main community button. And you can look all day for the main community button and it won't be there. And then somebody says, yes, but Rock says it's there. But it's never there.
It's never there. So I have to figure that out. The one and only way I can get instructions on doing that is if somebody else who knows how to do it goes page by page and takes a screenshot. And then eventually you hit that that person does not have the most current version. So there's nowhere on earth exists a set of instructions to do what I want.
And then we, and then with good luck, we discover it, but it's in a completely odd, weird place that you can never find anything. So, so we go search, you know, but how do I get. All right, let's see if I can get Owen on my phone. He might already be there. You all look amazing. Well, you're too nice. Well, we look stupid because we can't do that something.
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Chapter 4: How does the conversation shift to current events in Iran?
How hard is it to tell somebody where a button is? But it's hard when there's a thousand people. Owen must not be here. All right. Well, something's coming in. Oh, really? He called and went to voicemail. Why don't we try calling him? All right, here we go. Good morning, Scott. Good morning, Shelly. Good morning. Good morning, Owen. Can everybody hear you? I hope so.
All right, we're going to go back to the And give us a sign. Wait a minute. So we're not, we're not looking yet. We're just listening to you. So we can bring more people back up on the screen. Right. You are correct. So we're going to view all. We're going to. All right, so once he's there, participants, Sergio and Mike Bird are invisible.
And, all right, Owen, since you're going to be on the whole time, at least your voice will be, maybe you could lead us off in, oh, there's Marcelo. So there's a way to see her. So, Owen, did you make some notes on the news today? I did. Let me pull them up. Do we want to start with the simultaneous sip? Yes, we do. Yes, we do. We would like to do that. But you're going to lead us. Okay.
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So in no particular order, is there some stories or stories you want to cue us up on? There's plenty. I think as far as Iran goes, I think it was correct that they're still having their protests. The Crown Prince has issued a bunch of messages on X. It's sort of a rallying cry, so he's definitely claiming he wants to return and wants people to keep protesting.
I think the Ayatollah and the regime is threatening execution and saying that protesters are ruining the streets, but please, Trump. That's what Khomeini is saying. He's warning of a crackdown. So they have no public bathrooms. and gigantic crowds. I always wonder what happens in those situations. Yeah, I don't know.
It seems like it's spreading across the country, but it's hard to know what's real and what's propaganda. I don't know if you have a view on that, but it does seem to me, as I think you pointed out before, that there's, you know, what you hear when there's something like a color revolution going on and it's all one-sided and it's all painting a narrative,
But what's actually happening in the country, especially when the Internet's cut off and there's not a lot of information below, is highly in question, I think. Wow. It's pretty well understood at this point that it's not organic, right? Or is it? Is it organic? I'm not sure I believe that any protests are organic anymore. Yeah, that's where I'm at. I don't believe any of these are real. Yeah.
And for other international news, Trump is still saying he wants to go after Greenland and he's going to take it whether they like it or not. And he made a statement that he'll either do it the easy way or the hard way. He's floating an idea of paying each citizen of Greenland $100,000 to essentially buy the country. Really? Mm-hmm. So every single citizen would get $100,000?
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Chapter 5: What are the implications of Trump's statements on Greenland?
Diego. He's shy. He's named after Diego Armando Maradona, the soccer player, because he likes to fight. Hmm. All right. Do we have anyone else that would like to come in? I believe. It says perfect. Hey guys. It's good to be here. Thank you for having me on Scott. Um, it's been a long time and thank you for everything. I just want to say, appreciate you. Love you.
It's been crazy 10 years and, uh, Yeah, just thanks for making me part of your community and giving me a special place. And I did my best to fulfill the mission. And I'm going to keep going here. Whoever is going to tolerate me, I'll keep doing it. So here I am. So here's to you, Scott. Thank you very much for everything. It's your birthday today. Is that what you said? Yeah, I'm 50 today.
Happy birthday. That's a big one. Yeah, it is a big one. Thanks for having me on. I'm going to sign off now. I just wanted to say my piece and keep on watching and posting some memes now. It's been weird that I haven't been, I wonder what do my thumbs right now and I listened to you and, and here we are. So I'm going to sign off. So thank you. I'll talk to everyone.
I would, I would interject a story that I posted today that I think is good news. Um, might be a little sensitive for the two of you, Scott and Shelley, but, um, Fentanyl deaths have dropped in the U.S. significantly. It was over 100,000 a year, and now it's at 81,000 in 2024. And they're crediting Biden's era as far as, you know, it happened during his term.
But I think a lot of that had to do with Trump. in terms of putting pressure on China. And it looks like they're chalking it up to a supply disruption during the pandemic, that the supply of the precursor chemicals got disrupted somehow. And that may have caused a lot less supply to come into the US. And I certainly think Trump had a lot to do with that. And I think you had a lot to do with that.
So I think you deserve some credit for putting pressure on the administration and putting pressure on China. Good. It seems like it won't take long to fix the distribution problem, but it's a start. And who do we have down here? Does it appear?
yes this is uh peter i just wanted to say thank you for all the years i'm uh here managing two kids and the dog right now as they built train tracks um but i've been listening to you for pretty much all 10 years sort of the odd camera angles as i try to keep my kids faces off camera um but i uh I'll go off camera, but I'll finish this audio.
I've been listening to you for 10 years, pretty much every single day. And there's a point at which I tried to stop listening to you because I thought I need to diversify who I'm listening to, listen to different podcasts, et cetera, et cetera. And I couldn't quit you, Scott. I kept on coming back and listening to you pretty much every single day.
I every every Spotify your year wrapped was sort of boring because I was always in the top 0.1 percent of listeners to the Scott Adams podcast. And it's been it's been amazing to be with you over the past 10 years. And I just wanted to thank you for that. always been true to yourself, not allowing yourself to be bought by any interest or any sponsor or any media company.
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Chapter 6: How is the discussion related to mortgage rates and the economy?
Hey, Norm. Norm. Hey, Scott. Hey, Shelley. How you doing? Nice to meet you. Nice to meet you. Finally get on here. Hey. Hi. I'm somebody else, maybe. Been a huge follower, Norm. Yeah, gotcha. Yep. You're used to stuff, right? Got a big candle behind you. What are you behind? Oh, holy shit. Yeah. Surprise. Surprise. What's your name? I keep hearing myself over and over again. All right.
Well, it looks like Norm and Ryan are on here. Oh. Hey, Brian. Maybe that's better. I think I did it. You're both on audio. Yeah. So who would like to talk? Well, I heard you talking about mortgage bonds, and I'm in the mortgage business, so I figured I'd jump on because I'm pretty pumped about Trump's buying the mortgage-backed securities. That'll definitely pump the rates down.
Now, explain to us, like we've done, how that will help. Okay, so the last time that the government bought Mortgage Act securities, which is the bonds they're talking about, was after the 2008 housing crisis.
So what happens is these bonds are available for, think of it like a mutual fund or a stock, but they're not very attractive because they don't give high rates of returns like the stock market and other mutual funds. So no one really buys them. So if no one buys them, there's not a demand for them. So the only way to get a demand is the rates go up. to make it appealing to an investor.
You know, they want 7%, 8% return on their money at least. So because there's no demand form, the rates will go up. But once there's a demand, meaning when the country starts buying in that amounts, it pushes the rates down because now they're being bought by someone, in this case, the government. So it's the government's way of saying,
manipulating the rates to go down when the Fed doesn't want to lower them. So because he's going back and forth with Powell and Powell won't lower the rates, the way the government can do that is actually buy the bonds itself in large quantities like it is.
And as long as he keeps buying them, the rates will go down and go down and go down because someone because now he's created an interest, so to speak, by manipulating the system. It's only been done once before. Obama did it a lot in 2008 to keep the rates down when the Fed didn't want to lower it. And that's when rates were like 3%, 4%. Did it work? Yeah, it worked.
It was one of the biggest mortgage booms in history besides the one we just recently had with COVID. COVID was the largest rate reduction, one of those 2% to 3%. Yeah, I mean, the rates went down to three or four. I've been in mortgages for 35 years and been watching, been reading your column for about the same amount of time and totally can understand, you know, the whole corporate culture.
It made me want to open my own business so I didn't have to answer to anyone. Nice. But yeah, it worked and it will work. Thank you for sharing that. Yeah, and look forward to your future streams. But I don't want to take everyone's turn. Isn't there a prediction that we'll have a 5.4 GDP? I'm not familiar with the gross domestic product, but I know the numbers came out recently.
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Chapter 7: What are the latest updates on fentanyl deaths in the U.S.?
Just jump in with a follow-up. I asked Brock about the GDP rate. There actually have been several times when it's been higher than... economic recovery. If you remember the early 80s, and the late 90s, when we were really hot, the economy, of course, the late 90s was right before the dot com bust. But those are the only times it's been that way.
The only other really exceptional one is in the pandemic recovery, it got really high, even 34%, one quarter. But that's kind of an anomaly. All right. So, Michael, you might be dyslexic because you're confusing microphone with video. So one of them should be off. I thought of something else I'd love to tell you, Scott. Yeah, go ahead, Patty. I have a teenage grandson.
that is, he's very insecure. He just has a lot of issues going on. And he was with me recently. And I, you know, teenagers are, they love anime and Marvel comics and all of the superhero movies. And I said to him, hey, would you like to have a superpower? And of course, he was like, yeah, of course, we all want to have a superpower. And I said, well, here's a superpower that you can have.
You become unembarrassable. And I said, think about it, Brenner. I'm sorry, I wasn't going to use his name. But I said, think about it. If you could have anything happen to you in your life, and it's impossible for you to become embarrassed, you will have a superpower. And he started thinking about that, and we talked about it a lot, and he really loved the idea.
And I told him where I got the idea was from Scott Adams and the creator of a very famous comic called Dilbert, and he... I said that you'd written several books. And so he asked if he could have one of your books and I'm going to give, what would you suggest for a teenager? How to fail at anything? Yes. So from age of 14 on, how to fail at almost everything is so big. Okay. He's 13.
So on his 14th birthday, I'll give him that book. And thank you for that. That would be kind of a tie. Okay. which wouldn't win bigly, and reframe your brain. I love reframe your brain. You know, I've done reframing since I was a kid. A teacher read some books to us about a character named Mrs. Piggle Wiggle. I don't know if you've ever heard of her. I'm not.
And I used those kind of as an inspiration when I was a kid that I would create a reframe situation where I was, my mom would tell me to go clean my room and I didn't want to clean my room, but I would pretend. That if I didn't get it done in a certain amount of time, that a wicked witch was going to come in and cast a spell on me.
And I would get it done and I would have fun doing it because I know there was no wicked witch coming, but it was a fun pretend game. And I did that with all kinds of areas in my life. And so when the reframe book came out, it just made so much sense to me. And I really love it. I read it frequently, and I just pick it up for a daily tip of the day. I really like it. Thank you for that. Good.
That's the order I like to hear them being read in. So we should probably close down, but not before we give Michael one more chance. Yeah, where's Michael? Where are you? Michael... Looks like he has something else to do. Sean Corey. All right. I think we've done all we can do today. I apologize again for falling asleep on camera. But I warned you. I warned you.
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