Real Photo Show with Michael Chovan-Dalton

Heather Palecek | Teaching & Historical Practice

08 May 2021

Contributed by Lukas

Heather Palecek is an artist who uses historical photographic processes in experimental ways to explore our relationship with nature. She is also a hi...

Endia Beal | Teaching & Performance Review

24 Apr 2021

Contributed by Lukas

This episode is the first in a series dedicated to talking about teaching art while still having some personal success as an artist. Everyone in this ...

Gulnara Samoilova | Women Street Photographers

21 Mar 2021

Contributed by Lukas

Today's guest is Gulnara Samoilova and we talk about her book, Women Street Photographers published by Prestel Publishing. An amazing collection of wo...

Irina Rozovsky | In Plain Air

07 Mar 2021

Contributed by Lukas

"I wish I had more time for my child, I wish I had more time for my work, I wish I had more time for the Humid…" Irina Rozovsky and I talk...

Hannah Kozak | He Threw the Last Punch Too Hard

13 Feb 2021

Contributed by Lukas

"Forget about stunts, owning my story was the bravest thing I ever did." Hannah Kozak is a photographer and a Hollywood stuntwoman. When Han...

Stephen Frailey | Looking at Photography

19 Jan 2021

Contributed by Lukas

"In a way the book is almost a valentine to a group of pictures and also a group of people…a community of people who have been engaged in redef...

Amani Willett | A Parallel Road -Ep.127

26 Dec 2020

Contributed by Lukas

"In classes it was always, oh the road represents ultimate freedom, exuberance, the American dream…I just kept thinking, wait a minute, this do...

David Alpert | What is your Reality -Ep.126

16 Dec 2020

Contributed by Lukas

"I'll go and hold their hand with my hand by following their cursor with my cursor."   David Alpert is an artist and curator living and wo...

Jesse Lenz | The Locusts -Ep.125

04 Dec 2020

Contributed by Lukas

"Like shooting in black and white it really is just trying to find a way to see all these tones of gray and to not see things so stark as good an...

Finbarr O'Reilly - Bernadette Vivuya | Congo in Conversation Ep.124

18 Nov 2020

Contributed by Lukas

Episode Notes "What this project looks to do is go well beyond that with more nuance and more authentic voices from the community that is being r...

Bronx Documentary Center | The End of Truth -Ep.123

21 Oct 2020

Contributed by Lukas

Michael Kamber and Cynthia Rivera of the Bronx Documentary Center call in to talk about several events coming up at the BDC for this short series pre-...

Eric Kunsman | Fake News -Ep.122

11 Oct 2020

Contributed by Lukas

Eric Kunsman and I talk about his work, Fake News Archive Project: A Historical Archive of the Donald J. Trump Presidency. Eric is looking for people ...

Sasha Rudensky | Insider / Outsider - Ep.121

25 Sep 2020

Contributed by Lukas

"Really my favorite thing about photography is walking around with my camera…If I could do only one kind of work for the rest of my life, I think th...

Duquann Sweeney | Counter Narrative -Ep.120

28 Aug 2020

Contributed by Lukas

"I was thinking about that lately…as far as black photographers in general, will it always be a counter-narrative…" Duquann Sweeney is a photograp...

Deborah Jack | Drawn by Memory - Ep.119

13 Aug 2020

Contributed by Lukas

"When the green comes in, the grass comes back first, and then the smaller shrubs. It's always this sort of hopeful space…I always feel that nature ...

Habiyb Ali Shu'Aib | Beloved Home - Ep.118

25 Jul 2020

Contributed by Lukas

"There's a small neighborhood that's called Wilbur Section…It's known for crime, gang activity, drug usage, murders, unsolved homicide, and this is ...

PhotoWork with Sasha Wolf - Teaser

17 Jul 2020

Contributed by Lukas

Here's an introduction and a short clip from PhotoWork with Sasha Wolf, a new show that I am producing for Sasha about some of the more existential qu...

Martin Bough | Curiosity & Music - Ep.117

28 Jun 2020

Contributed by Lukas

"You really have to understand the times we live in and…the things that you push against are the things that make you who you are." Martin Bough is ...

Tamara Torres | Who Does Art Belong To - Ep.116

07 Jun 2020

Contributed by Lukas

"I can't take that (art) with me when I am gone, but I can certainly pass the message and leave behind how important art is as a tool to get better fr...

Ross Kasovitz | K&M Camera Past, Present, & Future - Ep.115

22 May 2020

Contributed by Lukas

"I can tell you stories upon stories about endless amounts of people who have come through from Roy DeCarava, Allen Ginsberg, Robert Frank, Larry Clar...

Emily Hanako Momohara | Fruits of Labor - Ep.114

09 May 2020

Contributed by Lukas

"My grandmother's family were all incarcerated at Minidoka, one of the WWII Japanese-American camps, and I just felt like there were few communities t...

Roula Seikaly I Photos without People - Ep.113

18 Apr 2020

Contributed by Lukas

"There is suddenly, in some ways, a whole new branch, a whole new subject for photography…How will notions of isolation, loneliness, communication…...

John D Freyer | Building Recovery Capital - Ep.112

02 Apr 2020

Contributed by Lukas

"I say that as a person who shifted from being an artist/activist to someone who has really taken the activism part of my practice and my life and put...

Matthew Leifheit | Ocean Meets the Bay - Ep.111

16 Mar 2020

Contributed by Lukas

Matthew Leifheit | Ocean Meets the Bay "I think people are increasingly asked to choose many paths at once, so my professional practice class has been...

Paolo Morales | Blind Leading the Blind - Ep.110

29 Feb 2020

Contributed by Lukas

"When I would come up from Virginia I would go there and I would take pictures and I would be like, okay if I take a picture then he'll live until nex...

John Sanderson | Carbon County - Ep.109

07 Feb 2020

Contributed by Lukas

"I saw the sun coming over the east, over the landscape and the farmlands and I saw this hot air balloon that was coming up, this bright red…extreme...

Andrew Cenci | Louisville - Ep.108

24 Jan 2020

Contributed by Lukas

"Photography has been a really healing practice for me and a spiritual practice in terms of just going out and making work." Andrew Cenci is a photogr...

Amr Alfiky | Muslim in America Ep.107

04 Jan 2020

Contributed by Lukas

"I think we are going to need these pictures in 10 years because everybody's talking about what happened in Egypt, but no one is talking to us about w...

Mark Steinmetz | Carnival - Ep.106

17 Dec 2019

Contributed by Lukas

"That's the pleasure of photography, it's really just kind of daydreaming with these borders around the world and what's in and what's out." Mark Stei...

Sasha Wolf | PhotoWork - Ep.105

30 Nov 2019

Contributed by Lukas

"I do think it's really important to help people out with as much information sharing as possible, especially when you get to a certain point in your ...

Madeline Djerejian | Double Portrait - Ep.104

16 Nov 2019

Contributed by Lukas

"I looked at these images and I thought, what's this about? I had very faint memories about it and so in order to sort of fill in the gaps, I wrote to...

Matthew Abbott | Land Where the Crow Flies Backwards - Ep.103

28 Oct 2019

Contributed by Lukas

"I had to mature to a place where I was interested in the stories…It's not just about pretty photographs…I think you need to come to a point where...

Ajuan Song - Kuzma Vostrikov | Absolutely Augmented Reality - Ep.102

12 Oct 2019

Contributed by Lukas

"I think it's wonderland, It's a positive little bit melancholy land located nowhere. It's not political or psychological, it's more about some far, f...

Liz Zito | Mueller Report Fan Fiction - Ep.101

27 Sep 2019

Contributed by Lukas

Liz Zito | Mueller Report Fan Fiction "I felt the way to share it with adding the redactions in, it gives you at least a beat to laugh and to kind of ...

Kai McBride | Different City - Half Frame - Ep.100

13 Sep 2019

Contributed by Lukas

Friend and former co-host Kai McBride calls in from New Mexico to talk about the big changes in his life and to help celebrate the 100th episode of th...

Ann Lepore | Amulet for Introverts - Ep.99

27 Aug 2019

Contributed by Lukas

"My work is very much about physical places and landscapes but it's' maybe more about communities and social markers that you can see in landscapes. S...

Ivan McClellan | Eight Seconds - Ep.98

09 Aug 2019

Contributed by Lukas

"Rodeo is sort of this universal expression of rural culture and everybody owns it…Native Americans own it, Mexicans own it, Black folks own it, Whi...

Edwin J Torres | Trent-Towne -Ep.97

25 Jul 2019

Contributed by Lukas

"I wasn't really a big fan of government when I was working as a freelancer, I was very skeptical, but when I stepped in I saw the incredible amount o...

Victor J. Blue | Cities in Dust - Ep.96

04 Jul 2019

Contributed by Lukas

"Our job is to keep making work that speaks both to the conflicts as they unfold and also what they are going to mean…our job is to hold our politic...

SVA The Culture of Community: A Latinx Photo Symposium - Ep.95

21 Jun 2019

Contributed by Lukas

MFA Photography, Video, and Related Media, in collaboration with El Museo del Barrio, presents the final program in the Scheimpflug Lecture Series of ...

Stanley Greenberg | Codex New York - Ep.94

06 Jun 2019

Contributed by Lukas

"I think that the early interest in infrastructure came from riding the subway to high school everyday and standing in the front car with my friends a...

Michael Joseph | Travelers - Ep.93

25 May 2019

Contributed by Lukas

"I think they see themselves as a second family, a found family, a supportive family and they're young in a way where they are exploring the world and...

Sasha Waters Freyer | Garry Winogrand: All Things Are Photographable - Half Frame - Ep.92

12 May 2019

Contributed by Lukas

Sasha Waters-Freyer is a documentary filmmaker and Chair of the Department of Photography and Film at Virginia Commonwealth University. Her film, Garr...

Rory Doyle | Delta Hill Riders - with Nicole Craine - Ep.91

27 Apr 2019

Contributed by Lukas

"…I'm able to share a story in a small part of American on a large scale and that's not me, per say, that's the story of this culture that's been so...

Anja Hitzenberger | strudelmediaLive - Ep.90

10 Apr 2019

Contributed by Lukas

"I feed off of other people, that's really how I teach, I love teaching this way. I like to improvise, I like to go by what is needed." Anja Hitzenber...

Aaron Turner | Center for Photographers of Color - Half Frame - Ep.89

28 Mar 2019

Contributed by Lukas

Aaron Turner started @photogsofcolor on Twitter to promote Photographers of Color and we talk about that back on episode 50, but now this social media...

Andrew L Moore | Learning by Inquiry - Ep.88

09 Mar 2019

Contributed by Lukas

"We spent a lot of time visiting architectural sites when I was a kid…I really grew up with a kind of 6th sense about buildings, about architecture,...

Rust Belt Biennial | Niko J. Kallianiotis - Yoav Friedlander - Half Frame Ep.87

24 Feb 2019

Contributed by Lukas

Yoav Friedlander and Niko J. Kallianiotis call in to talk about their open call exhibition, Rust Belt Biennial. We talk about the logistics of putting...

Lissa Rivera - BJ Lillis | History and Muse - Half Frame Ep.86

09 Feb 2019

Contributed by Lukas

In this half frame episode I catch up with Lissa Rivera and BJ Lillis (ep.51) to talk about their successes with the Beautiful Boy exhibition and how ...

Katie Sadie | The Way South - Ep.85

27 Jan 2019

Contributed by Lukas

"Ended up going on a six month road trip from Toronto to Los Angeles…all through the south…living in a van…lived in that total for a year, but s...

Dana Stirling | Float Magazine - Half-Frame Ep.84

19 Jan 2019

Contributed by Lukas

In this half-frame episode I catch up with Dana Stirling from Float Magazine. Dana and her partner in life and business, Yoav Friedlander, were guests...

Kayla Coleman | Carrie Able Gallery - Ep.83

07 Jan 2019

Contributed by Lukas

"I remember sitting in that art history class and loving it, but flipping through the textbook and not seeing myself in it. And so I was like, 'do bla...

Charles Traub | Taradiddle - Half-Frame Ep.82

28 Dec 2018

Contributed by Lukas

Charles Traub is my first guest for the new half-frame episodes where I catch up with previous guests on what they have been up to. Charles and I talk...

Oliver Wasow & Mark Alice Durant | Friends Enemies Strangers - Ep.81

19 Dec 2018

Contributed by Lukas

"They are really poignant images and they really sort of resonated humanity, and because I didn't know the author, I didn't know the intent or anythin...

Andy Dunn | Last Stop Coney Island - Harold Feinstein - Ep.80

05 Dec 2018

Contributed by Lukas

"This was all slow kind of going as well, an email here and there, and it wasn't until 2014 that Harold's health started to fail quite seriously…and...

Paul Kwiatkowski - Tom Griggs | Ghost Guessed - Ep.79

17 Nov 2018

Contributed by Lukas

"I think the first thing that happened, which is the big overarching theme of the book, was the missing Malaysian plane…and all the kind of mytholog...

Noyes Arts Garage | RAW 2018 - Ep.78

31 Oct 2018

Contributed by Lukas

This episode was recorded with a live audience at the Noyes Arts Garage reception for the 2018 RAW exhibition that I juried. The episode is actually b...

Lynsey Weatherspoon | Portraits & Communication - Ep.77

17 Oct 2018

Contributed by Lukas

"I left home because I was getting too comfortable. Comfortable with the type of work I was creating, comfortable around the people I had known for 29...

Ryann Casey | Loss Event - Ep.76

28 Sep 2018

Contributed by Lukas

"My first trip after Sarah passed was to the Grand Canyon…so I think that trip and that sense of awe…felt like I was connected to something outsid...

Melissa Bunni Elian | Afropunk x Ferguson - Ep.75

10 Sep 2018

Contributed by Lukas

"The analogy I always use is that we are on this table as a society, but we don't see that we are getting pushed closer and closer to the edge and we'...

Nicole Craine | Everyday Rural America - Ep.74

21 Aug 2018

Contributed by Lukas

"I was like, If I spend as much time working on my own stuff as I do working at this desk I could probably make just about anything happen, so goodbye...

Sarah Blesener | Beckon us from Home - Ep.73

03 Aug 2018

Contributed by Lukas

"I want nuanced reflections and questions…that's why I like literature…if a book didn't do that you would not be interested and you would throw it...

apexart | Steven Rand - Ep.72

20 Jul 2018

Contributed by Lukas

"As an artist I began to feel that I was making collectibles for wealthy people…with apex I turned into more of an educator…and the fellowship is ...

Reuben Radding | Humans and Music - Ep.71

06 Jul 2018

Contributed by Lukas

"I looked back on my life and was like, I've done a lot of tearing down, a lot of dismantling of my life to move on to something else and grow, and I ...

Sara Hylton | Nobody Listened - Episode 70

21 Jun 2018

Contributed by Lukas

"I think even in storytelling and making pictures there's so much noise and it's so busy and here's this conflict and this violence and for me it's ju...

Aaron Berger - Episode 69

07 Jun 2018

Contributed by Lukas

"That was at the very end of Thailand, I was just starting to think I didn't want to play poker anymore and I was starting to be drawn to something ma...

Rola Khayyat | From Brooklyn to Beirut - Episode 68

23 May 2018

Contributed by Lukas

"When the shelling got too bad my mom would hide us in the bathroom and say it's just raining really hard and this is the safest spot in the house." R...

Peter Kasovitz | K&M Camera - Episode 67

07 May 2018

Contributed by Lukas

"The people that I dealt with were quite fascinating to me because I came from a completely different perspective and I began following them and I sai...

Gordon Stettinius | Candela Books + Gallery - Episode 66

21 Apr 2018

Contributed by Lukas

"There is sort of a desert in Richmond Virginia, there was no photo gallery, there are a couple of blue-chip galleries…but my feeling is I could tal...

Andréanna Seymore - Episode 65

07 Apr 2018

Contributed by Lukas

"I really wanted to kind of tackle women being empowered by physical fitness, and being empowered by sports, and what let me into that was discovering...

Andre D Wagner - Episode 64

18 Mar 2018

Contributed by Lukas

"It's just amazing how like when you kind of put energy out, like a certain type of energy that you want to be around and that you want to be a part o...

Joseph Michael Lopez - Episode 63

04 Mar 2018

Contributed by Lukas

"I don't think I was really ready to break out as a photographer, but I was ready to break out as like my own spirit." Joseph Michael Lopez is a docum...

Wassaic Project | Eve Biddle | Jeff Barnett-Winsby - Episode 62

18 Feb 2018

Contributed by Lukas

"We talk to other community organizations all the time, they are like, oh how do you get such great community engagement, we do events all the time an...

Nomi Ellenson | Boudoir by Nomi - Episode 61

04 Feb 2018

Contributed by Lukas

"When you're 3 or 5 years old and you're understanding that your grandma fits bras, you don't think about it in a sexual way…I just equated bras wit...

Katie Kline - Episode 60

22 Jan 2018

Contributed by Lukas

"That's the thing I get most excited about with photography is what you can hide from the viewer and how you can frame your work to make it something ...

Verónica Sanchis Bencomo | Foto-Féminas Episode 59

07 Jan 2018

Contributed by Lukas

"That's when I came to learn more about Graciela Iturbide, Tina Modotti, Lola Alvarez Bravo…that kicked in this interest or appetite in what else is...

Jackie Battenfield | The Artist's Guide - Episode 58

23 Dec 2017

Contributed by Lukas

"If the bottom line isn't scaring you, you haven't thought of everything, and because of that we don't go after enough funding…" Jackie Battenfield ...

Emile Askey - Episode 57

10 Dec 2017

Contributed by Lukas

"You know I had a meltdown and went to hang out in the desert for a couple weeks…came back…I talked to my brother and he's like, you say good thin...

Donato DiCamillo - Episode 56

23 Nov 2017

Contributed by Lukas

"I was a criminal, I lived that criminal lifestyle, and I really didn't give a crap about anybody's feelings…but something changed in me and photogr...

Gabriela Herman | The Kids - Episode 55

07 Nov 2017

Contributed by Lukas

"I literally went from, I wasn't able to say the words out loud…my mom is gay, to basically writing it in the Times and screaming it to the whole wo...

Amani Willett - Episode 54

18 Oct 2017

Contributed by Lukas

"…and to me that is the irony in all of this…In the act of wanting to be alone, and disappearing, he actually became famous." Amani Willett's new ...

John Trotter - Episode 53

24 Sep 2017

Contributed by Lukas

"I remember saying, 'That, that's it, I almost died for that…it's a nothing photograph.' That's how I would have been remembered, he died to make a ...

Michael Kamber | Bronx Documentary Center - Episode 52

04 Sep 2017

Contributed by Lukas

"Photography is magic…it has incredible and really unparalleled power to represent and define people, communities, and individuals...kids see that a...

Lissa Rivera - BJ Lillis | Beautiful Boy - Episode 51

17 Aug 2017

Contributed by Lukas

"It was about getting the opportunity as a woman to experience the beauty of my partner and also question beauty and how beauty is constructed and the...

Aaron Turner | Photographers of Color - Episode 50

23 Jul 2017

Contributed by Lukas

"People know that there are black artists out there but it's just about why isn't that work included in the overall narrative…Let's know the history...

Float Magazine | Yoav Friedlander & Dana Stirling - Episode 49

07 Jul 2017

Contributed by Lukas

"The feeling that you are opening a door for someone , what you always dreamt that someone would do for you…it's a very humbling experience." Float ...

Gary Schneider - Episode 48

16 Jun 2017

Contributed by Lukas

"I realize I have a kind of self-consciousness about my history, about having grown up in Apartheid South Africa and mostly my work is outside of race...

Stephen Hilger - Episode 47

28 May 2017

Contributed by Lukas

"I think about that neighborhood that's been wiped away as a crime scene…" Stephen Hilger is the Photography Chair at Pratt Institute. His book Back...

Michelle Leftheris - Episode 46

15 May 2017

Contributed by Lukas

"Well I'm just going to work at this lab for the rest of my life, I'll be a lifer…because my life is over at the ripe old age of twenty four…and t...

Niko J. Kallianiotis - Episode 45

30 Apr 2017

Contributed by Lukas

"Oh you know, Robert Frank did this or you know Soth did this, it doesn't really matter who did it, it's what you are going to put into it. Are you pa...

Jen Davis - Episode 44

15 Apr 2017

Contributed by Lukas

"And I always kind of thought about myself in my role in the work as this otherness…it was me but it was a version of me.…" Jen Davis explores bod...

Spring Cleaning | April Fools - Episode 43

01 Apr 2017

Contributed by Lukas

Our 1st April Fools Show - Hope you enjoyed it! - Kai and Michael respond to all of the great listener feedback on iTunes and start their spring with ...

Geoffrey Berliner | Penumbra - Episode 42

16 Mar 2017

Contributed by Lukas

"As time marches on where we've become more of a technical society…we've become removed…alienated from making things, there's also a sense of a la...

Jeff Mermelstein - Episode 40

12 Feb 2017

Contributed by Lukas

"We know how beautiful of a machine that is, but right now mine is at home and for me to get to that point or to that break, was not easy…the whole ...

Lucas Thorpe | Libby Pratt - Baxter St - Episode 39

30 Jan 2017

Contributed by Lukas

"We spend a lot of time fundraising because a lot of this grant money goes directly to the artist so we need to make that up with…how do we pay for ...

Jeffrey Henson Scales - Episode 38

16 Jan 2017

Contributed by Lukas

"I was sort of like the teenage cub photographer of the Black Panther paper. They let me move around with all of the leaders of the party, I would rid...

Martin Bell - Episode 37

01 Jan 2017

Contributed by Lukas

"I was in London, Mary Ellen was working there (in Seattle) and I think it was the first night she was there, she saw Tiny get out of a cab in the par...

Pen + Brush - Tricia Wright - Episode 36

21 Dec 2016

Contributed by Lukas

"It's not always just the gender, it's the lives women lead and that makes it very difficult to be part of the commercial route…you don't fit the mo...

Justin Waldinger - Tap and Dye - Episode 35

04 Dec 2016

Contributed by Lukas

"I decided it was time to do something that I really love and that had to combine cameras and making things." Justin Waldinger founded Tap & Dye b...

Yola Monakhov Stockton - Episode 34

16 Nov 2016

Contributed by Lukas

"That very same day that I started I was shot by an Israeli soldier. I was shot with an…M6 or M16 rifle…and I almost certainly should have died......