Krista Vernoff
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What led Krista Vernoff to reassess her life and career?
I go in for the results and the doctor says, you have the lungs of a 30-year-old swimmer. Are you an athlete? And I go, what? Like I haven't stopped coughing in four months. And he goes, you do not have asthma. You do not have any condition that I can diagnose. And I said, what do I do? And he goes, I swear to God, I just think you need to take some long walks and look for the hummingbirds. Oh, wow. you're not walking you're not breathing you're not you're not in awe you're not looking at nature you're not present you're not present yeah yeah you have to do something different than what you're doing
Krista, welcome to Reclaiming. Oh, this is it? We're rolling? Yeah, we're just, it's super like... It's super, okay. It's super chill here. We're super chill. It's conversational. There's like the opposite of gotcha. Thank you. Exactly. That's what you can do is just... Yeah. Take a breath. Thank you. So, you know, you have had such an illustrious career spending a large portion of it on Grey's Anatomy for how many seasons? Because you were... I was there for the first seven seasons. Right. And then I was gone for seven seasons. And then I went back as the showrunner for six seasons. Oh, my God. So I don't do math, but I think it's 13 years. Oh my gosh. But I mean, you've also show run. What's the past? Is show run, show ran?
That's a good question. Yeah. You were the showrunner. I was the showrunner. You were the showrunner on many other shows and had worked on other shows. You'd worked on Charmed before, right? Yes. I did three years of Charmed. Right. And then also did a little Law & Order and Rebel, right? Yes. Yes. And then in your last, in the last, when you were show running, show running, see show running is easy. Show running works, but show ran. Whatever. When you were the thing for the thing the last time at Grey's Anatomy, you were also then the show runner for Station 19 at the same fucking time. Yes. And Rebel. Rebel. Okay. At the same time. For one year, all three of them. Oh, my gosh. Yeah. Okay. Did you sleep? I only slept.
Like, I only slept and worked and played with the kids sometimes. Okay. I did not have what one would call a life, you know, like the younger generation say, like, work-life balance. And I worked hard. I worked and I slept. I have to sleep. Right. I have to sleep where I can't function. Yeah. Like how long sleep? Are you an eight hour sleeper, 10 hour, five hour? I would prefer 10 hours of sleep a night. During those years, I was maybe getting seven or eight.
How did Krista's upbringing influence her creative process?
Yeah. But lately in the recovery from those years stage, which has been almost three years now, I've I've been sleeping nine or 10 hours pretty standardly. Good for you. Good for you. And I feel like the idea of looking at rest as a pillar of, yes, there's always been sleep stuff and how do you sleep better and pay attention to your sleep, but that idea of rest- Actually being slightly different. I don't know. Does that resonate with you? It's so wildly different. And rest and sleep are so wildly different. And that's been – I've also had to learn about myself in the last few years that for me, rest – Like, just stop is not restful. Like, just stop and rest is not restful. When your nervous system is as jacked as it has to be to work in television in general, just stop doesn't work.
So what I did is I took up surfing. And that gave me the terror and adrenaline and joy, the high highs and the low lows that I got running television shows. And it exhausted me so that I could rest. How interesting. Did that just happen or did somebody kind of lead you to this idea of finding a healthy substitute? Yeah. No, I had been surfing like on vacation for maybe 10 years. I started in my like around early 40s, I think. And then I left – when I left Grey's Anatomy and Station 19, Rebel had been canceled the year before. So I was down to running only the two network television shows. Lazy. I had reached a point – I had reached a breaking point physically and emotionally to some degree. I was – I had just worn myself out.
And I was having –
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
What led Krista Vernoff to reassess her life and career?
0:06–3:08
2
How did Krista's upbringing influence her creative process?
3:08–8:55
3
What challenges did Krista face while showrunning multiple series?
8:55–12:58
4
How does Krista use writing as a healing modality?
12:58–17:08
5
What insights does Krista share about the impact of her shows on social change?
17:08–20:17
6
How did Krista navigate her journey through burnout?
20:17–26:09
7
What role does self-care play in Krista's life after leaving network television?
26:09–30:28
8
What future projects is Krista Vernoff excited about?
30:28–1:02:59