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Strange Happenings in the Mountains of Washington State

30 Aug 2022

Contributed by Lukas

r/CreepyEncounters; Strange Happenings in the Mountains of Washington StateOP heard a strange noise in the woods while they were with their dog and co...

r/BackwoodsCreepy; My Experience in Pisgah National Forest

22 Aug 2022

Contributed by Lukas

“I hear these footsteps that sound like two feet get closer and closer to the river from the opposite side of the bank and I’m watching very close...

r/Lets_Not_Meet; My Dog’s a Good Boy

21 Aug 2022

Contributed by Lukas

Things were seemingly normal when OP was with her dogs at home until one of the dogs started randomly growling. More started to be revealed about what...

r/Paranormal; My College Ouija Board Experience

20 Aug 2022

Contributed by Lukas

“The 3 of us original girls were playing the board and Bailey told us her back was hurting. She asked us to look and see if she had a really bad sun...

r/TrueScaryStories; Another Garage Door Story | Walking at Night

19 Aug 2022

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“When I opened the door to the garage from the house, I nearly crapped my pants. The big garage door was open.”Submit your stories: popmediaagency...

r/TrueScaryStories; The Mystery Package Sender | Whose Foot Was That?

18 Aug 2022

Contributed by Lukas

“Our co-workers had started to joke that we needed a bug detector to see if maybe our car or something was being bugged. Wow, we were totally floore...

r/TrueScaryStories; Always Shut Your Garage Door | To the Man by the Shed

17 Aug 2022

Contributed by Lukas

“I called out for my dad, assuming he was home, and didn’t hear anything. I grabbed my phone, called my mom, and asked if Dad was home. She said h...

r/CreepyEncounters; I Met Someone Who Could Have Ended My Life without Knowing | Biology Tutor Stalker

16 Aug 2022

Contributed by Lukas

A man approaches OP, and starts talking to her, but says some really creepy things that makes her very uncomfortable. She later learns some pretty ter...

r/TrueScaryStories; If You See Someone Waving You Down on a Desolate Highway, Don’t Stop

15 Aug 2022

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“Suddenly the man leapt onto the road and arms waving frantically, I swerved into the left lane narrowly avoiding him. In my headlights I noticed he...

r/AskReddit; What’s the Scariest Thing that Science Has Proven Is Real?

14 Aug 2022

Contributed by Lukas

Some tumors have teeth, hair, and even eyes. Brain-eating amoebas. Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease, a sickness that causes personality changes, anxiety, dep...

r/Lets_Not_Meet; I Was Stalked for a Month and Had No Clue

13 Aug 2022

Contributed by Lukas

OP is a little physically disabled, carrying crutches and hearing aids. She decided to go to the store one day when a man approached her and began ask...

r/CreepyEncounters; When a Gut Feeling Saves You from the Man Waiting for You in a Doorway

12 Aug 2022

Contributed by Lukas

“After a couple minutes of crouching behind the car, staring at the house, I saw movement, and my heart stopped. The man came back down the path, ou...

r/AskReddit; What Conspiracy Theory Do You Believe Is 100% True?

11 Aug 2022

Contributed by Lukas

Celebrities aren’t actually giving their kids absurd names, they’re just not publicizing their legal names. People who post on AskReddit are BuzzF...

r/BackwoodsCreepy; Creepy Encounter in the South Carolina Swamps | Followed in the Woods

10 Aug 2022

Contributed by Lukas

“I saw what looked like a human silhouette move between the trees for a split second, but it was very off. Very skinny, pale, and taller than me at ...

r/Lets_Not_Meet; Visiting an Abandoned Cottage Next to Mine. Didn’t Go So Well.

09 Aug 2022

Contributed by Lukas

“I heard significant footsteps coming from the back of the cottage. I thought it was my brother and I turned back, and I swear I saw a hand opening ...

r/BackwoodsCreepy; There’s Something Weird about the Woods behind My House

08 Aug 2022

Contributed by Lukas

“I got set up for the night, stayed up reading comics, felt like an outdoorsman, and it had barely gotten dark when I began hearing loud, rhythmic c...

r/CreepyEncounters; Creature in the Woods | Sleep Paralysis Turned Real

07 Aug 2022

Contributed by Lukas

“We heard a very loud, heavy footed animal running through the woods getting closer to the water. At first I thought it was a deer, as it was almost...

The Jonestown Massacre

06 Aug 2022

Contributed by Lukas

The Peoples Temple Agricultural Project, better known by its informal name "Jonestown", was a remote settlement in Guyana established by the Peoples T...

r/TrueScaryStories; Missing from the Cabin in the Woods

05 Aug 2022

Contributed by Lukas

OP’s friend, Troy, got into an argument with another friend, Todd, after he had brought over a friend, Ace, for the evening to hang out. Todd didn’...

r/UnsolvedMysteries; The Freeway Phantom

04 Aug 2022

Contributed by Lukas

The Freeway Phantom is a media epithet for an unidentified serial killer who was active in Washington DC from April 1971 through September 1972. Submi...

r/ConspiracyTheories; Ancient Giants Buried in the Mounds Across North America

03 Aug 2022

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“When he noticed some bones protruding from the ground, he pulled a femur from the soil, and when he compared it to his own, it was 7 inches longer....

r/CreepyEncounters; Let Me Tell You about the Button Man

02 Aug 2022

Contributed by Lukas

OP and their partner woke up to some strange footprints in their campsite and wondered where they came from. They later saw a man, old, scraggly, and ...

Listener Story: New Orleans

26 Jul 2022

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“Small serpents of red slithered across her face. She smelled like rotting leaves and blood. She smelled like death. She spoke to me in a very deep ...

r/CreepyEncounters; Is My Neighbor Stalking Me? | Sketchy Doordash Driver

25 Jul 2022

Contributed by Lukas

“I started realizing he’s been outside in the morning at the time I leave for work daily. He will be outside within 15 minutes of me getting home,...

Listener Story: Not So Imaginary Friend Part 2 | Something Weird about Their House

24 Jul 2022

Contributed by Lukas

In this episode we close the story of OP’s not-so-imaginary friend, and then tell one more shorter listener story about some strange things they saw...

Listener Story: Not So Imaginary Friend

23 Jul 2022

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“I stopped at Brandon’s door and put my ear to it. His babbling was low and it sounded like he was having a conversation with someone. I opened th...

r/AskReddit; Scariest Things Morticians Experienced at Work

22 Jul 2022

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“A friend of mine is a mortician. Her scariest incident happened very early in her career. She was alone and had music going, and was walking past t...

Listener Stories: Disentombing and Relocating | The Haunting on Hawthorn Avenue

21 Jul 2022

Contributed by Lukas

In 1893, the city Denver decided to create a new cemetery out of town and designated a man named E. P. McGovern to exhume the bodies and relocate them...

r/TrueScaryStories; Creepy Cowboy | I’ve Only Told This to My Closest Friend | The Owl

20 Jul 2022

Contributed by Lukas

OP went on a walk with their brother and grandma at night and came across a little playground where they stayed to rest. After sitting for a bit, they...

The Murdaugh Murders

19 Jul 2022

Contributed by Lukas

The unsolved killing of a mother and son, millions of dollars in stolen funds, fresh investigations into a fatal boat crash, and a housekeeper’s dea...

r/TrueScaryStories; Man Stalking My Sister in the Woods | The Work Stalker

18 Jul 2022

Contributed by Lukas

“As we made our way back, quickly and quietly, I felt the sense that I was being watched. We made it to our bikes, which were thankfully still there...

r/UnresolvedMysteries; Criminal Jogger Pushes Woman into a Bus | 14 Year Old Boy Found After 20 Years

16 Jul 2022

Contributed by Lukas

It’s been 4 years and despite viral CCTV evidence, no one has found the Putney Bridge jogger who seemingly, randomly, and without provocation, pushe...

r/TrueScaryStories; Truck Stop Horror Part 2

15 Jul 2022

Contributed by Lukas

Today we continue our story from yesterday, starting with the lady at the scene of the crime, or what was left of her anyway.. Submit your stories: po...

r/TrueScaryStories; Truck Stop Horror

14 Jul 2022

Contributed by Lukas

“Have you ever gotten the heebie jeebies from someone’s voice? Like flat out scared to talk to someone, a voice that makes you think that the pers...

r/Lets_Not_Meet; Almost Kidnapped in Miami Because of Instagram | I Won’t Ever Volunteer in a Homeless Shelter Ever Again

13 Jul 2022

Contributed by Lukas

An influencer was invited to a hotel in Miami, Florida and was told she could bring a friend. She was going to bring one of her female friends, but de...

r/AskReddit; What Were the Conspiracy Theorists Right About?

12 Jul 2022

Contributed by Lukas

Marilyn Monroe was being spied on by practically everyone. When another owner of her former residence decided to renovate, the number of wires and bug...

r/Lets_Not_Meet; The Crocks and Socks Stalker

10 Jul 2022

Contributed by Lukas

While OP was driving to work, she decided to grab a drink on the way. On her way back to her car, she noticed a man in her peripheral vision walking a...

r/UnresolvedMysteries; The English Sweating Sickness that Ravished 15th Century British Society | Detached Feet

09 Jul 2022

Contributed by Lukas

The English sweating disease caused five devastating epidemics between 1485 and 1551, England was hit hardest, but on one occasion also mainland Europ...

r/Paranormal; Strangers in Woods Acting Strange

08 Jul 2022

Contributed by Lukas

OP went hunting out on public land and came across some other people in the woods. He at first assumed they were just other hunters out there, but the...

r/CreepyEncounters; The Man I Saw Through My Night Vision Scope

07 Jul 2022

Contributed by Lukas

OP was looking through his scope at what he at first thought was a bear, but as he gazed he realized it was a man. This man wasn’t moving like a nor...

r/Paranormal; What Happened to You That Initially You Thought Was Paranormal, but in the End It Wasn’t?

06 Jul 2022

Contributed by Lukas

“Every now and then I would feel someone sitting on the corner of my bed in the middle of the night. Turns out it was just a spring from inside the ...

r/ConspiracyTheories; Serial Killers Are Not Who We’ve Been Led to Believe | Hollow Earth

05 Jul 2022

Contributed by Lukas

Serial killers are not these lone wolves who have distanced themselves from society, but instead are CIA operatives that are highly trained killers wh...

r/Lets_Not_Meet; Close Call, Pervert in My House | The Cat Tries to Warn Us

04 Jul 2022

Contributed by Lukas

OP home alone and heard someone coming up the stairs. Thinking it was her sister, she called out to see if it was her. When she kept getting no respon...

r/AskReddit; Have You Ever Been Scared to the Core of Your Soul?

02 Jul 2022

Contributed by Lukas

OP was home alone and needed to get something out of the back room, or a garage that was absorbed into the house. As they were searching for what they...

Why I Still Lock All the Windows in My House | A Very Strange Child

01 Jul 2022

Contributed by Lukas

OP and her cousin, L, who were both about 13, were having a sleepover and decided to head to the corner store to stock up on snacks. They noticed a gu...

r/AskReddit; What Unexplainable or Scary Event Happened to You in Your Own Home?

30 Jun 2022

Contributed by Lukas

OP had some large plush power ranger toys they liked to play with. As they were preparing to come down stairs with them, the red power ranger came to ...

r/shortscarystories; AITA for Leaving My Fiance 2 Weeks Before Our Wedding | How Did He Know?

29 Jun 2022

Contributed by Lukas

OP met his fiance a few years ago on a dating website and they hit it off and fell in love. But every time he asked to go over to her apartment, she w...

r/BackwoodsCreepy; Experience in George Washington National Forest. Still Not Sure What Happened

28 Jun 2022

Contributed by Lukas

OP was going camping with their partner and went to a campground that was supposed to be super busy, but when they got there, the place seemed almost ...

r/Lets_Not_Meet; To Whomever Was In My Car with Me Last Night | Stranger Danger | Followed Around Town

23 Jun 2022

Contributed by Lukas

OP is living in their car right now and parked at a Walmart parking lot to sleep. He fell asleep pretty quickly, only to wake up a bit later and turn ...

r/shortscarystories; Meet My Family

22 Jun 2022

Contributed by Lukas

OP is always happy and excited to meet new kids that are brought in from the nursery and really looks forward to when they get to be taken upstairs af...

r/Lets_Not_Meet; Beware of the Children of the Neighborhoods | A Summer Camp Gave Us Nightmares

21 Jun 2022

Contributed by Lukas

OP heard pounds on the door, but wasn’t expecting anyone. They went to check, but no one was there, and so they thought maybe it was just some neigh...

r/Horrorstories; Old Jack | They’re Here

20 Jun 2022

Contributed by Lukas

OP came to their house to find everything wrecked and out of place, and their family was nowhere to be seen. They saw a long, skinny, white figure nea...

r/TrueScaryStories; Finding a Closed Off Room in My Old House

17 Jun 2022

Contributed by Lukas

OP moved into a new place with their family and things were normal, but they noticed there was a strange space in their house which seemed to just be ...

r/TrueScaryStories; The Barber | I Was Followed

16 Jun 2022

Contributed by Lukas

OP was out on a run and doing a work out in the evening when he noticed a man hanging out nearby who seemed to be lingering more than he should. OP le...

r/Lets_Not_Meet; He Tried to Come In and Clean Our Apartments

15 Jun 2022

Contributed by Lukas

While OP was home alone with their siblings, who were sleeping, a man knocked on the door trying to sell something. She got super weird vibes from the...

r/BackwoodsCreepy; Lake House Weekend

11 Jun 2022

Contributed by Lukas

OP was at a lake house with some friends and while they were getting lost in conversation, they got a weird feeling that encompassed them, like an unn...

r/BackwoodsCreepy; Terrifying Day in Oklahoma Woods | The Jamison Family

10 Jun 2022

Contributed by Lukas

The Jamison family deaths occurred on or after October 8, 2009, when the Jamison family of Eufaula, Oklahoma, United States – Bobby Jamison, his wif...

r/Horrorstories; Do Not Open | Hikers of Reddit, What’s the Most Messed Up Thing You’ve Seen?

09 Jun 2022

Contributed by Lukas

While washing her dishes, OP picked up the phone and talked to her friend, who said he would come over for a bit. While showering, OP heard a loud kno...

r/ParanormalEncounters; An Encounter with an Entity I Had When I Was 4 Years Old | Nearly Murdered by a Ghost

08 Jun 2022

Contributed by Lukas

“I slept, but around 5 minutes later I wake up to a voice screaming my name really loudly, and I was also levitating and my head was slightly out of...

r/AskReddit; What’s the Scariest Encounter You Had with a Total Stranger?

07 Jun 2022

Contributed by Lukas

A commenter said they were driving in South Africa and pulled over, when suddenly a stranger opened the passenger door and sat down. The OP started sc...

r/UnresolvedMysteries; Karlie Gusé

06 Jun 2022

Contributed by Lukas

In 2018, 16-year-old Karlie Gusé attended a party. Karlie allegedly smoked weed, and suffered adverse effects the entire night. Scared, Karlie called...

r/UnresolvedMysteries; Lenny Dirickson

05 Jun 2022

Contributed by Lukas

In 1998, Lenny Dirickson was having breakfast with his son when an unidentified man inquired about a horse Lenny had for sale. Lenny left with the man...

r/Lets_Not_Meet; Has Someone Been in My Home?

04 Jun 2022

Contributed by Lukas

OP heard a noise at the back of her door that sounded like someone trying to get into her home. After investigating and finding no one, she and her bo...

r/Lets_Not_Meet; Don’t Drive Straight Home Part 2

03 Jun 2022

Contributed by Lukas

OP’s sister has gone outside with a knife to see who this stranger is lurking outside before quickly running inside and locking the door with a terr...

r/Lets_Not_Meet; Don’t Drive Straight Home

02 Jun 2022

Contributed by Lukas

OP was walking her dogs with her foster sister at the park when a man passed them, said hello, and kept on walking. He then came back around and kept ...

r/AskReddit; What Is the Scariest Encounter with a Person You’ve Ever Had?

01 Jun 2022

Contributed by Lukas

“When I was 15 I was walking home from the bus stop about 5 blocks away from my house when an older man on a bike stopped me. He grabbed my arm and ...

r/Lets_Not_Meet; I Escaped a Fake Deliverer

31 May 2022

Contributed by Lukas

OP was about to head out of the building he lived in when he suddenly met a stranger. The stranger seemed nice at first, but then he said he needed to...

r/UnresolvedMysteries; “If something happens to us, we were murdered”: Who Killed Kylen Schulte and Crystal Turner?

30 May 2022

Contributed by Lukas

On August 18, 2021, the bodies of married couple Kylen Schulte and Crystal Turner were found in Moab, Utah, United States. Both victims were killed by...

r/TrueScaryStories; He Might Actually Be Angry | The Red Woman | The Knocks

29 May 2022

Contributed by Lukas

OP struggles with sleep paralysis and often experiences the weird things that accompany it like hearing whispers or seeing a presence above them, but ...

r/AskReddit; Campers of reddit, What Is the Scariest, Creepiest, Most Disturbing Thing That Has Happened to You in the Woods?

28 May 2022

Contributed by Lukas

“We were about half a mile from the nearest campsite when we heard a soft whispering behind us. Obviously we hit the flashlights and spun around. Di...

r/AskReddit; People of Reddit Who Work the Day Shift at a Non-Haunted Business, What’s Your Creepy Experience?

27 May 2022

Contributed by Lukas

While walking past what looked like an empty house, u/duckyblinders saw a nail on the ground, so they threw it into the yard of this empty house. A ma...

r/Lets_Not_Meet; The Window Creeper | Followed in the Woods

26 May 2022

Contributed by Lukas

OP saw a man outside her window staring at her and was immediately freaked out. Her boyfriend made sure to reveal himself, which sent the man running....

r/BackwoodsCreepy; Growing Up in the Appalachian Mountains | The Smiling Man

25 May 2022

Contributed by Lukas

OP was in the woods at night next to a fire with his friend, when a strong breeze came through the site. They suddenly heard footsteps in the darkness...

r/Lets_Not_Meet; The Laboratory in the Forest

24 May 2022

Contributed by Lukas

OP and their friends came across a strange place in the woods that appeared to be some sort of laboratory, but what they found inside was even weirder...

r/AskReddit; What’s the Creepiest Thing You’ve Heard at Night?

23 May 2022

Contributed by Lukas

“Used to live on the ground floor. At 2 AM, some random crackhead knocked on my window and asked if I had 50 cents for a lighter. It should have bee...

r/MecThology; The Bell Witch from American Urban Legends | A Fetch | The Ghost of Bellamy Bridge

22 May 2022

Contributed by Lukas

The Bell Witch or Bell Witch Haunting is a legend from Southern United States folklore, centered on the 19th-century Bell family of northwest Robertso...

r/Glitch_in_the_Matrix; It Wasn’t Her… | r/CreepyEncounters; 3 Men Came Looking for Me at My House Today

21 May 2022

Contributed by Lukas

At 4:45 in the afternoon, OP’s aunt heard a knock at the door and was met with 3 caucasian young adult men, all dressed in black matching uniforms. ...

r/NFL; What Is an NFL Conspiracy That You 100% Believe in or Is Plausible?

20 May 2022

Contributed by Lukas

“If the refs blow a call, they give you a holding call later to make up for it. So if you know anything about football, if they make a bad call agai...

r/TrueScaryStories; Grandma on the Run | Never That Safe

19 May 2022

Contributed by Lukas

While taking a shower one evening, OP’s grandmother was rinsing her hair when she suddenly heard a blood curdling scream, as if the victim were bein...

r/TrueScaryStories; Apparition in My Friend’s Home | The Wendigo

18 May 2022

Contributed by Lukas

OP was watching a movie with some friends when they thought they saw something move on the side of their eye. It looked like an extremely tall man wit...

r/AskReddit; Women Who Gave the Creepy Guy a Chance, How Did It Go?

17 May 2022

Contributed by Lukas

“On our first date, he told me he loved me and that he would let me pick out the color of our house. The rest of the evening was super awkward and I...

r/AskReddit; What Conspiracy Theories Turned Out to Be True, but Most People Still Don’t Know about Them?

16 May 2022

Contributed by Lukas

Chernobyl wasn’t lost because of one mistake. Pre-crash checks revealed problems, but no one took them seriously. The reactor was built with a horri...

r/AskReddit; What Celebrity Conspiracy Theory Do You Absolutely, 100% Believe Is True

15 May 2022

Contributed by Lukas

Former Disney stars do publicity stunts to purposefully sabotage their image and be released from Disney’s clutches/contractual obligations. These s...

r/TrueScaryStories; I Ran into a Cult in the Woods 1.5 Miles from My House | I Think I Watched Myself Walk Home

14 May 2022

Contributed by Lukas

OP was walking with their friends in the woods behind their house and they came across something odd. They found a site with some really strangely pla...

r/Lets_Not_Meet; I Escaped an Intruder by “Playing Along”

13 May 2022

Contributed by Lukas

OP was home doing some stuff on her floor when she noticed a man suddenly standing over her. She thought he was there for her roommate, so she told hi...

r/Glitch_in_the_Matrix; I Saw Myself across a Parking Lot…

12 May 2022

Contributed by Lukas

OP took her son to swimming lessons whose parents dropped them off. A week later, she was at the unloading zone with her son when she noticed her pare...

r/UnresolvedMysteries; The Curious Case of Mr. Gorgos | Hollywood Man Reincarnated | The Jetpack Guy Is Back

11 May 2022

Contributed by Lukas

In 1991 a man vanished after telling his family he was going on a business trip. In 2021 a car stops in front of this man's home and drops him off. He...

r/ConspiracyTheories; Olive Garden Is Limiting Their Endless Soup | Marylin Monroe and the Kennedys

10 May 2022

Contributed by Lukas

Every time OP goes to get the unlimited soup option at Olive Garden, the bowl gets hotter and hotter until about the 4th bowl when it’s too hot to c...

r/TrueScaryStories; Dead Cafeteria Lady | The One Experience I Can’t Explain

09 May 2022

Contributed by Lukas

OP was asked to go get some dresses from the stage for their choir class. As she was looking in the dark, a lady asked her what she needed, and then p...

r/TrueScaryStories; The Face in the Window of My Mom’s Basement | My Mother’s Stalker

08 May 2022

Contributed by Lukas

OP’s mom was alone down in the basement one night and when she looked up, she noticed a very disturbing face staring at her through the window, whic...

r/Lets_Not_Meet; Hotel Ukraine Horror Story

07 May 2022

Contributed by Lukas

OP went to hotel Ukraine and immediately started getting some strange vibes as she entered the elevator and a man began caressing her hair. She was mo...

r/Glitch_in_the_Matrix; The College Hook Up | My Husband’s Car Answered His Question

06 May 2022

Contributed by Lukas

A few years ago, this girl from college texted OP out of nowhere, telling him that she had gotten divorced and wanted to reconnect. After hooking up, ...

r/AskReddit; Redditors Who Have Had Someone Living in Your Home without You Knowing, What’s Your Story?

05 May 2022

Contributed by Lukas

A well-off couple had a shy, 16 year old teenage girl from down the street house sit while they were gone. They came home and found a 28 year old home...

r/TrueScaryStories; Avoiding Abduction | Snapchat Creep

02 May 2022

Contributed by Lukas

While 11 year old OP was playing with his 9 year old friend at Lake Ontario, they noticed a redneck man in a truck watching them. After he offered the...

r/TrueScaryStories; The Bumpy Man

01 May 2022

Contributed by Lukas

OP’s little toddler son was in the other room and suddenly started laughing. He was looking over her shoulder into the darkness, so she asked him wh...

r/TrueScaryStories; Something’s Strange about My Boyfriend’s Dad | The Teacher

01 May 2022

Contributed by Lukas

OP was at her boyfriend’s house and noticed the shower was on and assumed it was him taking a shower. After a bit of weird happenings, she checked o...

r/nonmurdermysteries; In 2004 the Entire Sri Lankan Handball Team Went Missing

30 Apr 2022

Contributed by Lukas

You’ve trained your entire life for this moment. You’ve sacrificed blood, sweat, and tears to become the best physical specimen and teammate that ...

Fan Story: Paranormal Experiences

29 Apr 2022

Contributed by Lukas

Our listener tells a story about a time when they were living in their great grandma’s house after she passed away. They had various experiences of ...

Fan Story: My Sister Unintentionally Saved My Life

28 Apr 2022

Contributed by Lukas

OP’s sister kept having scary dreams and creepy feelings at night, which proved to be kind of a pain for their parents, until one night their mom we...

r/UnsolvedMysteries; The Disappearance of Asha Degree

27 Apr 2022

Contributed by Lukas

Asha Degree went missing at the age of nine from Shelby, North Carolina. In the early morning hours of February 14, 2000, for reasons unknown, she pac...