Right About Now with Ryan Alford
Unlocking Value: Ludex Transforms Trading Card Valuation with Brian Ludden
Tue, 20 May 2025
Right About Now with Ryan AlfordJoin media personality and marketing expert Ryan Alford as he dives into dynamic conversations with top entrepreneurs, marketers, and influencers. "Right About Now" brings you actionable insights on business, marketing, and personal branding, helping you stay ahead in today's fast-paced digital world. Whether it's exploring how character and charisma can make millions or unveiling the strategies behind viral success, Ryan delivers a fresh perspective with every episode. Perfect for anyone looking to elevate their business game and unlock their full potential.Resources:Right About Now NewsletterFree Podcast Monetization CourseJoin The NetworkFollow Us On InstagramSubscribe To Our Youtube ChannelVibe Science MediaSUMMARYIn this episode, host Ryan Alford and guest Brian Ludden, CEO of Ludex, discuss the booming trading card industry and the transformative role of technology. Alford shares his personal experiences with trading cards, while Ludden details his journey from derivatives trading to founding Ludex, an app that scans and values trading cards. They explore the challenges of accurately pricing cards, the impact of technological advancements, and the evolving market dynamics. The episode highlights the potential for growth in the trading card sector, emphasizing Ludex's role in modernizing the industry and enhancing the collector experience.TAKEAWAYSGrowth and evolution of the trading card industryPersonal experiences and nostalgia related to trading cardsIntroduction and features of the Ludex app for card valuationChallenges in accurately pricing trading cardsImpact of technology on the trading card marketSupply and demand dynamics within the trading card industryCommunity engagement and trading practices among collectorsThe role of subscription services and B2B platforms in the trading card businessFuture trends and potential for growth in the trading card marketImportance of data-driven strategies in enhancing collector experiencesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
Chapter 1: What is the trading card industry like today?
The premise is trading card business too big to ignore, and you need to know more about it.
It's not the corner store anymore. It's grown up. Every collector's a sports fan, but not every sports fan's a collector.
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Hey, what's up guys? I'm excited. You know, I get to do my show and look, you know, we make our own rules here anyway. But we talk business, we talk marketing, we talk current events and, you know, things that you need to know as a small business owner, as an investor, people trying to get ahead.
And, you know, it's been interesting the last few months with my kids, trying to teach them through business to the lens of trading cards. And that's why I am really excited because, you know, it is the number one app opened on Ryan Offord's phone in the last three months. And I've got the founder, Brian Ludden from Luddex. What's up, Brian?
Brian, thank you so much for having me. I'm excited to launch off the Collectibles trading card podcast with you guys. And thanks for downloading the app and using it.
Yeah, man. It's fun. It's been a blast getting back into it. Grew up doing trading cards. I was always a little mini entrepreneur. It was definitely a little side hustle for me as a kid growing up. And, you know, like most kids, you get into other things, I don't know, girls and cars or whatever, college. And you got the old trading cards in the closet or whatever.
So it's been on the shelf for a while. And my kids, you know, minor, minor, 14, 13, 12 and nine, you know, four boys. And they've been late to the game. You know, I always thought they'd get into it. I was almost somewhat glad they didn't economically. But I was sort of just waiting in the wings that I hadn't if they didn't get into it, I wasn't going to get back into it. And they picked it up.
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Chapter 2: How did Brian Ludden get into the trading card business?
And again, going down that rabbit hole early, Ludox hit the radar for, all right, how are we going to keep up? How much is our cards worth? You know, when you open a pack, having the best app for the scanner of the card, that's what Ludox does. You guys will go check it out. And you probably, if you're listening in your trading cards, you know Ludox, but if you don't,
you got to know how much those cards are worth when you open them. And that's what Ludex does. I mean, talk a little bit, Brian, let's set the table for everyone about, you know, your kind of journey into the business and what got you going with Ludex. Yeah.
Yeah, well, it was like any journey. It's a winding road. I was a derivatives trader for 25 years down at the exchanges in Chicago. My company got acquired in 2017. I had a three-year, I had to work with that company. I was not a great employee. I did not win employee of the month, that's for sure.
But during that time, during COVID, kind of like similar to your stuff, I had cards sitting here and we have a place in the city and my son and I were here, my 14-year-old son now. And I'm like, hey, let's check out these cards. They're getting more valuable and blah, blah, blah.
And I was looking at it and I couldn't figure out what these cards were, what they were worth, like any comps, anything. And then I bought a new pack of cards and the new ones with all the variations and shiny and shimmer. So I'm like, this is ridiculous. This industry, there's got to be something out there. And I look for like 30 days.
I'm like, holy crap, this industry is massive and it has not had a tech revolution yet. And so I said, I'm going to go out and do it. And I raised $5.3 million in 45 days from all the traders on the floor. And we are on our way.
I love it. I love it. But you're so right. I remember growing up. Get this, Brian. I don't know if we're the same age. I might be a little older than you.
You're younger. Younger.
Okay. A little younger. All right. You look good. So growing up, you'd have to go find the book, the Beckett or whatever it is. Think about what we had to do, man. It's the same thing with music, the MP3 player. But think about what I had to do to find out what something was worth and trying to do trades. How did we trade as kids? It's not knowing what that stuff's worth.
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Chapter 3: What challenges exist in accurately pricing trading cards?
Do you want to go look at a live stream? Do you want to sell your card on eBay? That's what we want to be. We want to be the nucleus, the hub and scope model, and just get brokered, get a dime per listing, get referrals from PSA, and just really help our users experience the industry in a broader sense.
Well, it starts with that slick interface and scanning the cards quickly, as accurate as any platform or more, I'd say, than the only one we use consistently. And literally getting that value. That's where it starts. It's like, okay, what do I have here? And that's what Linux kind of is the gateway to that, the starting point.
So it makes a ton of sense that you then lead them to these other channels or aggregate them yourself. I know a smart businessman when I see him. But again, it starts with that because this is what happens. I pulled a gold downtown Josh Allen out of a $15 Donruss pack two months ago. And I knew it was good. I mean, we'd been back in it just long enough, 1 of 10.
It was in Asheville, North Carolina, shopping with friends, and they thought I was nuts buying trading cards. I did not have my kids with me. That's how deep it's gone, Brian. But anyway, I knew I had something, and I knew even Luddix wasn't going to be the source for a 1 of 10, and it was a new series. However... What the biggest thing is when you open those cartridges, what do I have?
What is, that's the question. Cause you know, you got something good. You know, my kids know, but they're like, they don't know how good. And Ludox is kind of the, the gateway to knowing what you have. Yeah.
Yeah, it's knowing what you have and knowing what it's worth. Those are the two pillars that we kind of go off of. And it's technology, so it's never done. It's never completed. But I mean, really, that's what we want to be. We don't want to be an authority in anything. What we want to be is we want to be an information tool to help people enjoy this industry and this hobby.
And you're a great story about this because you have four boys. They're active. I'm sure they're in sports. But you guys can bond over this. And there's a business to be made. And you guys can buy and sell. And you can go to shows. You come to National in Chicago at the end of July. You can be our guest there with your boys. We run the VIP lounge. Oh, that's awesome. It's awesome.
But anyways, this industry is about that. And that's what Ludox wants to be. Information tool, help people out, and enjoy the industry.
Ecom and eBay certainly enabled this 10, 15. It's been around. With these tools like Ludex and digital and all this stuff, I mean, we've moved from just the corner store. Everybody can have a store. The whole revolution of this industry is playing out in digital form and social media and all of this. Trading cards is the perfect realization of all of this proliferation of technology.
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Chapter 4: How does technology enhance trading card valuation?
Oh, God. Go to a Walmart and try to find a Pokemon pack.
Yeah. No, there's fights. A grown man will tackle your sons to get to a Pokemon.
I'd like to see it. I'll take that one, Brian. But no, yeah, you're right, though. You're right.
But no, it's huge. I mean, I would speculate that it easily is in the 200 million range globally. Yeah.
I know that's not directly in your line, but obviously I haven't quite got my head around how all that works. The distribution of hobby to retail to all that, you know, for like local stores versus online versus, you know, local collector.
I could explain it to you, but I think you'll be just as confused. I mean, there's so many levels of this thing. It's like if the mafia was working with the KGB, with the FBI, it's like a card is produced, right? We know they get printed. They get printed, they go directly into a box. That box goes to a distributor, to a wholesaler. The wholesaler sells it to the local card shops or breakers.
And then no one else knows, no one knows where those cards go after that. But we get to follow it. So when there's a new release, we'll see the scans and we know who has what cards and where they live and how many were bought. Did you buy and sell any? But the layers to get product is insane. It's inefficient.
How does one go about getting into that? Like, I mean, because it's like just how many volume? Buy enough?
Yeah.
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Chapter 5: What is the potential growth of the trading card market?
I think singles are the way it's going to go because the cards, they call it wax. The boxes of cards are getting so expensive, and the return on investment is like... It's not great. So what you're seeing now is a lot of these live streamers are just saying, hey, we're doing singles. 20 seconds. Boom. 20 seconds. Boom. And you just turn over inventory.
Usually graded cards, but the singles will never die. I mean, there's legacy. There's, I think, 1.5 billion cards that have been printed in the... whatever, since baseball started in 1880.
Oh, wow. I'm sorry, trillion. Did I say billion? Trillion. Oh, God, trillion. Holy moly. Yeah. That's a lot of paper. So there's a lot of singles out there. Oh, geez, Louise. I think I had a billion myself as a kid in boxes somewhere.
And most are worth just the cardboard they're printed on.
Yeah, exactly.
My whole collection was that. I'm like, oh, man, look at all this stuff. It's worth like three bucks.
Oh, I grew up like in the wrong years, man. Like I had 87 to like 93, you know, like terrible years. You know, the best thing you had was like Upper Deck when the Griffey came out. But even that's like a $50 card now, you know, like whatever. There's some stuff of grades, you know, it's worth more than that. But it wasn't the best era for me.
Yeah, no, it was terrible.
That's when they figured out, I guess they started taking off. They started making too many of every card. That's what it was, essentially. Supply and demand. Bringing it back to the business, that's the interesting part of this. that the fine line of how much supply versus demand to keep value up. Right.
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Chapter 6: How does Ludex aim to transform trading card valuation?
Talk to me about how everyone listening can learn more about Ludox, get to the app. We'll have all that in the show notes. But, you know, you give any updates or calls to action that you want the audience to know.
It's just on the App Store, Google Play Store. Just download it.
register we have a really robust free version uh you can scan up to like 250 cards a month uh for free um so kick the tires on it and you know enjoy it but uh you know we're a high touch company and and we're we want to be out there with people so if anyone in the in your ethos system comes to any shows uh come by linux and say hi yeah please do and let me tell you
It's the best $200 we've spent on the membership because it's more than paid for itself with knowing what those values are. So don't cheap out. Go for the subscription. You'll thank me later, I promise. And, hey, you don't know what's up their sleeve. There's stuff on the roadmap that we can't even talk about. So, look, keep up with Ludex. Go check out the app.
And, look, if you're just thinking, you're listening to this show, and you're going, all right, the stock market's doing this, crypto's doing that, well... Trading cards are blowing up. Brian, it's been so wonderful to have you on the show. Look forward to staying in touch.
Absolutely, my man. Good luck with Rad Breaks.
Yes. Go knock it out. First one. We are. We're going to get Ludix as an official sponsor or something. We're going to figure this out. I know it is. We've got too much synergy here. Hey, guys, you're going to find me, ryanisright.com. You'll find links to all of this, how to get to Ludix, how to get to Brian, and everything that they're doing. Follow along on their social media. And, of course...
Get the app, baby. I'm telling you, save yourself some trouble. Download that thing. Scan those cards and let's go. Hey, we're always taking the BS out of business every day right here. We'll see you next time on Right About Now.
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