Rotten Mango
We Asked Rosie & Bubba from "The Crash" EVERYTHING The Internet Wants To Know
21 Jun 2026
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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
If you have not already listened to the previous four parts of this series, I recommend doing that first.
Chapter 2: What happened in the crash involving Mackenzie Shirilla?
We went through the crash itself that was caused by 17-year-old Mackenzie Shirello, where she killed her boyfriend Dominic Russo and their friend Davion Flanagan in the backseat. We went through all of her actions after the crash that a lot of people were side-eyeing. We went through the Netflix documentary. Mackenzie was interviewed for the Netflix documentary.
We went through all of the things she said. Her best friends, her close friends were also speaking out. Some of them were interviewed for the Netflix documentary and a lot of them were hated.
Chapter 3: How did the Netflix documentary impact public perception of the case?
And two of the more controversial figures to come out of this Netflix stock, The Crash, are Rosie and Bubba. They were there the night at Paul's gathering that Mackenzie, Dom, and Davion were at all before they left. And when they leave Paul's place, that's when The Crash happens. So these are the last people to see Dom and Davion alive. Rosie and Bubba are, you know, they did not have a...
They were not widely liked after the Netflix documentary for a lot of good reasons on the internet. And we were able to get them on a two-hour phone call with our researchers and ask them all of the questions and most importantly, ask them what really happened that night.
So
Now I will say that I was not on that phone call. There was a schedule overlap but also we thought it would be best for me to remain as objective as possible and I thought the easiest way would be to not be on that phone call.
Chapter 4: What actions did Mackenzie take after the crash?
I gave my researchers a list of questions that I had. My researchers also had their own list of questions and we were just rapid fire making sure that everything got answered and I will say that Rosie and Bubba do not seem to be at least evasive to any of the questions.
I did, of course, try my best to verify their statements, but there are some that are, for obvious reasons, impossible to verify. And for those, I'm just going to point out, there's no way to verify that.
And at times where I do attempt to verify with the FOIA file, I'm just going to walk you through my steps and thought process of how I try to verify information just so we can be as transparent as possible. Rosie and Bubba first stated that they felt the Netflix documentary was extremely edited and twisted in a way that does not represent how they truly feel.
Rosie told us that she was under the impression that the Netflix doc was talking to her and Baba about the viewpoint of losing friends in such a tragic way at such a young age. She says, Rosie states that it wasn't what she was expecting to represent her feelings about the whole situation. So they were describing that Rosie had an eight hour long interview with producers.
Bubba had a 15 hour long interview. And it's just like rapid fire questions all day. And they said that they answered each and every single one of them. And when they saw the final documentary... They even thought the original documentary was going to be a three part docuseries, but it got cut down to just one and a half hours.
Rosie states she felt like they just took out a lot of things for simplicity's sake. They never got an early viewing of the documentary either. And when it did release, Rosie and Bubba stayed up to like three in the morning to watch it. And they state that they were taken aback by how much was cut out.
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Chapter 5: How did Rosie and Bubba feel about their portrayal in the documentary?
For like 8 hours, 15 hours, they say it's only like 15 minutes, make it in. And they thought that it was not a good representation of their interviews, is what they state to us. Rosie shares her grievances with the way the documentary cut her parts, stating that she felt a lot of trust with the production team. She says... They did Don't Fuck With Cats, which is honestly great.
We think it's a great film. Everybody loves that. We just watched it a while ago.
Chapter 6: Why did Rosie and Bubba hesitate to talk to police?
So they had a lot of reputable films. I thought they would take our story responsibly. And they were always super nice every time we communicated with them. And we really poured our hearts out. And they came into our house like multiple times. They felt it was just not accurate of how they feel. So how do they feel?
The biggest question that we had for Rosie, other than what happened that night, was why would you not talk to the police, but you want to talk to Netflix? That also seemed to be the biggest point of contention on the internet when it comes to Rosie.
I did see through the police file, throughout the police report, there are multiple mentions in the detective's incident report that he has reached out to Rosie and she has declined to speak with him. He's like reaching out multiple days. This is a major, completely understandable point that's being made online.
I too am of the belief of like, how can you really grieve the loss of two friends, but you did everything you could to avoid helping the investigators figure out the truth of what happened that night? It doesn't make sense. It does give cover up vibes, understandably. So we asked, why did she not talk to the investigators?
In the documentary, in the Netflix documentary, the prosecutor is also interviewed and he states, quote, you have no idea how hard I try to get Rosie Graham to talk to me, to cooperate with me. But it's good to hear that she talked to you guys. I'm fascinated to hear what she has to say. So we asked Rosie and she states she did talk to the prosecutor.
Really?
Yeah. She says, quote, I did speak with the prosecutor and I don't really know what got lost in communication with them.
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Chapter 7: What evidence was found in the FOIA documents regarding the case?
She later mentions that she had two phone calls with the prosecutors. One was an hour long. The other one was 30 minutes long and that she has the phone record to prove these calls happened. Now, here's what I did to verify this statement. Like I said, there are multiple mentions in the detective report of trying to get Rosie to come in for an interview. There is no mention that she ever did.
However, Rosie does state that she talked to the prosecutor, not the detective. So in the detective's report, he's like, Rosie won't talk to me, Rosie won't talk to me. Rosie tells us she talked to the prosecutor, two different people. She says this. So there's all this talk online that nobody cooperated.
And I think it's the way that documentary was edited where I was explaining the initial police hesitation and they cut it with the prosecutor, which he's not even the police. You know, the prosecutor didn't call us originally. And I explained it on the documentary in depth. And once Mackenzie was arrested, the prosecutor called me. It went to voicemail.
I called him back and I have phone records of two phone calls with him. One was half an hour and the other one was an hour long.
The guy who's saying that in the Netflix doc?
Yeah.
That's the prosecutor.
Yeah.
So the prosecutor, she's saying they did speak.
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Chapter 8: What were the dynamics of Mackenzie’s relationship with Dominic and Davion?
Now, the prosecutor states to Netflix, you have no idea how hard I tried to get Rosie Graham to talk to me, which, I mean, it insinuates that Rosie Graham didn't talk, but also it doesn't because he's just saying, like, I had to work on this a lot, right? I tried really hard. You have no idea how hard I tried.
Oh.
and then and then it cuts with him saying to cooperate with me so i you have no idea how hard i tried to get rosie graham to talk to me to cooperate with me but it's good to hear that she talked to you guys i'm fascinated to hear what she has to say he says to talk to me to cooperate with me it could be possible that rosie did talk to the prosecutor but maybe he said that because she might not have cooperated in the way that he was anticipating okay okay
Like the fact that he's saying, I'm fascinated to hear what she has to say. Like it, maybe there's an insinuation of we did grand jury subpoena her, but maybe they got nothing out of that phone call. Maybe those two phone calls, there was nothing that they felt was.
So why didn't she talk to the police and them in the initial three, four months?
Yeah. Oh, there's a whole thing. We asked them about that, too. So I do want to note that if there was I mean, these phone calls, it's really hard to verify if they did occur in the sense of or like even the substance of the phone calls, because if it were to have happened after a grand jury subpoena, a lot of things that are pertaining to grand juries are sealed typically.
So it's just like a yeah. But the wording there is very interesting. How hard he tried to get Rosie Graham to talk to him, to cooperate with him. I'm fascinated to hear what she has to say. Another interesting point is Rosie mentioned to our researchers, quote, and he said, okay, I'm going to call you whenever to come testify. And I was like, great. And I never heard back.
which could indicate that the prosecutors felt like she was unhelpful to the prosecution's case. And these are all me just like tinfoil hatting this and coming up with my own opinions. I still want to note, even if this were true in a hypothetical parallel universe, even if Rosie wasn't helpful to the prosecution's case, that doesn't mean anything.
That doesn't mean that she wasn't cooperating to the best of her abilities. It just means...
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