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1261 How He Went from $0 to $4k/mo Helping Brands Track Customer Facing Video
06 Jan 2019
Chapter 1: What is the main service offered by Flick?
helping you build kind of an interactive presentation. He pivoted from an old product into Flick, brought about 200K with him. Now have four full-time people in Israel scaling this. They have a couple grand per month right now in revenue. They just launched in 2018. So growth rates, obviously we can't calculate yet.
They're currently raising additional capital, have about 10,000 free users online. on the platform. Those are kind of logos and seats. Again, it's too early for things like churn. When they do do paid experiments, they're paying about 60 bucks to acquire a customer with a six-month payback and Shai's assuming a $200 lifetime value.
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Chapter 2: How did Shai pivot from his previous product to Flick?
It was one hundred and sixty million dollars, which is the size of many IPOs. We're a bit strapped. We have like twenty two thousand customers. With over 5 million downloads in a very short amount of time, major outlets like Inc. are calling us the fastest growing business show on iTunes. I'm your host, Nathan Latka, and here's today's episode. Hello, everyone. My guest today is Shai Wokomir.
He helps create, share, localize, and track customer-facing videos and GIFs in minutes. The tool is built for support, sales, training, HR, and product teams. It's called Fleek. No camera, product, crew, narrator, or hosting needed. We'll jump into it today. Shai, are you ready to take us to the top? Let's go.
Chapter 3: What is the revenue model for Flick?
Okay, so tell us what the company does and if you're a pure play SaaS model or not. Sure. Flickr is very simple in the concept. What we've done is we've created a format that lives somewhere between a classic presentation or a PowerPoint deck and a video.
We realized that the organization loves to provide rich media communication internally or externally, whether it is for an employee or for a customer. But creating a video is pretty hard. Updating a video is pretty hard. I mean, if it's for support usage or for pre-sales, for employee onboarding and the like. So think of Flix as a very simple concept.
Think of something like you take a screenshot of your dashboard and then you go with your mouse and you say something like, I want to talk about this. I want to talk about that. I want to talk about this. And then you write a sentence or two. Here you can see the password location, et cetera, et cetera. You click on a button.
Chapter 4: How does Flick's customer acquisition strategy work?
And it all turns into something that relates to a video. So it's an HTML format that lives, that drives, that talks with a voice-to-text or your voiceover. But it's very easy to manage, to update, to share, no hosting, etc. And the beautiful thing about Flick is given that it's an HTML format, its extendability is enormous, a.k.a. Tracking is embedded immediately.
So you can see where the user is going and what he's doing while he's watching the flick. Analytics is automatically embedded into your user flow with Google Analytics key, et cetera, et cetera. We are a SaaS model based on seats. That's the business model for the product. And that's like in a very high nutshell. That's great. And just give me a general sense of the customers you're serving.
What are they paying per month on average? So it relates to the size of the team. We do have a sizable number of SMEs and SMEs, meaning that there's small teams like agencies.
Chapter 5: What challenges has Flick faced since its launch?
We'll talk about the diversity of the market in the industry that are using Flick. But you can see very, very small teams of two, three creators that we call them in the platform. But we have enterprises as well. And then we can see seats from 50 to 100 to 200. It's very based on the number of
of the people within the organization beyond the fact that it's a land and expand strategy where one team might get that product and it jumps into a technical marketing team, an HR team, et cetera, et cetera. Yeah. So I just, cause I know you have tons of cohorts here based off size, but what would give me an average, what's the average team pay per month would you say? Um, so, um,
The price per seat is 10 bucks. So you would see some somewhere between 15 to 22 on the small SMBs and the big guys pay on an annual base somewhere between three to 20 K. And again, it's sizable. It just depends. Yep. Which, um, well, I guess we'll get back to that in a second. Give me more of your background.
Chapter 6: How does Flick handle customer feedback and updates?
When did you launch the company? What year? So it's a pretty funny story, but basically, the company itself is not about Flick. It was actually an offspring from a whole different product. You can call it a pivot or whatever. But we're a Techstars-based company from 2015. We did the cloud product, the cloud cohort.
We did it with a company called Elasticode, which did mobile onboarding for mobile native apps. Basically, you would go online, you would create some sort of an experience, and it would land within your mobile app.
But we saw a lot of challenges within that realm, and the main three was that the market was not big enough in the sense of mobile is great, but the number of companies that are willing to optimize their product using a third-party integration within a mobile native app is much smaller than expected.
There was no instant gratification in the sense that from the moment you're seeing the product, you're getting value. There's tons of time, and the integration was very long. Thus, we took that technology and we played around with it, and we added voice and took it to the web. And then we realized, after showing it to a couple of people, that's some sort of a video environment experience.
And this is how it was launched.
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Chapter 7: What future growth strategies does Flick plan to implement?
Officially, we haven't even launched it. Yeah, so it's 2018. This year, it was on January, we set the product to market. Got it. That's great. So 2018, that's great. Now, where were you before? I mean, did you quit a big corporate job or, you know, where was your head at? Well, before that, I was in cyber or network security.
I worked with Check Point, with RSA, with these companies on the research side of things. And then I switched over to a whole different story. Got it. Okay, very good. And then fast forward to today. So how many seats are on your platform?
Chapter 8: What advice does Shai have for entrepreneurs starting out?
So currently, there's a freemium model where more than 10,000 people. users on the platform itself, more than 25,000 flicks in the air. Well, and give me a sense too, right? So 10,000 free seats, but how many are actually paying? So we did an AppSumo campaign back at the start of the year. So a lot of the number of customers that joined the platform are on a lifetime deal.
a large assessment of that portion? Let's not count that because that's essentially one-time revenue unless you can figure out how to change them to a monthly plan, which is difficult because they just bought lifetime value. So let's just focus on monthly paying seats. Right. So just one point about that.
A lot of our AppSumo users are paying not on a monthly base, but we've done an AppSumo store for them and they're buying in for more value, not subscription-based, but we actually have done more money from the AppSumo campaign within the platform itself later on as an upsell. So that's laid back for us. We're still doing some great revenue there.
But on a monthly base from the 2,000 customers that are on the platform, we have more than 100 customers that are paying. That's only the self-service product. That's beside the number of enterprises that we're seeing on a whole different, not user-based, but on an annual custom offering that we're doing there. So we have customers... Shy, sorry.
That was a lot of different kind of things going around there, and I'm confused, right? So your basic business is you sell seats at $10 a month. You've got 10,000 people using it to some degree, whether it's a one-time payment on a lifetime thing or they're using it for free or whatnot.
How many are paying on a monthly basis on a per-seat model across all your logos, whether it's a small business or an enterprise? 120 on the self-service, but... On the enterprise, which is a whole different pricing, not per seat. There's tons of value there, like single sign on, et cetera, et cetera. That's a different pricing.
We have five enterprises, big enterprises with a whole different pricing structure. Okay. So how much, if you had to look at your monthly recurring revenue right now, what would you put it at? It's not disclosed, but I would say that this year we would get to 180K per year, including the absolute.
If you guys are like me, it was quite a shock to me when I was building my first company, Heyo, and we reached like 10, 11, 12 people. And all of a sudden I'm going, wait, why am I getting notices from all these states? And that's because I had to file payroll and stuff in these states as we started hiring people from remote locations. It was the biggest pain in the butt. I hated the paperwork.
I hated the payroll. And so now today when I'm launching new companies, hiring new remote employees, I use a company called Gusto. It's very simple. Payroll benefits and HR for modern small businesses. What I like most, and I've timed this, it takes about seven minutes on average for my folks to run payroll. It's got fast, easy to run payroll, including W-2s and 1099s.
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