SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
1453 How This Event App Bootstrapped to $1M in ARR
17 Jul 2019
Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
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him four years to convince himself to finally quit and go all in launch the company or the idea maybe in 2011 then went all in in 2015 once they could pay themselves salaries today team has six people in sweden in remote locations they've passed um uh they've passed about 175 customers doing about 70 grand per month in pure play sas revenue almost that beautiful million dollar run rate.
Now they're already over that when you add in their kind of one-time fees as well, but growth is about 50% year over year. They've got net revenue retention over a hundred percent as well.
Only churning on a gross basis, about 8% of revenue per year, spending anywhere between six and 12 months of first year ACV to acquire these customers, which are again, folks looking to put on events, whether it's internal or external, that's what their app event app does.
This is the Top Entrepreneurs Podcast, where founders share how they started their companies and got filthy rich or crash and burn. Each episode features revenue numbers, customer counts, and other insider information that creates business news headlines. We went from a couple of hundred thousand dollars to 2.7 million. I had no money when I started the company.
It was $160 million, which is the size of many IPOs. We're a bit strapped. We have like 22,000 customers. With over 5 million downloads in a very short amount of time, major outlets like Inc. are calling us the fastest growing business show on iTunes. I'm your host, Nathan Latka, and here's today's episode. Hello, everyone. My guest today is Mats Backlund.
He's the founder of a company called MeetApp. He started out as an Accenture consultant, went on to be a CIO in the Nordics at a media and tech company called Cision. He then quit in 2012 to start MeetApp and another business full time. Since 2015, though, he's been 100% focused on MeetApp. Mats, are you ready to take us to the top? I am. Thank you for having me on the show. All right.
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Chapter 2: How did MeetApp start and what is its business model?
But the nature of an event is that it's a one-time thing, meaning our way of getting new subscription customers in is to get them onto a single event. And then if they like it, and they do often, they come back and want a subscription. So it's a way of getting them in to sign up for subscriptions. And once they're in subscription customers, we have a really good retention rate.
So they like, our customers like the product. What's really good retention? What's the actual rate? We have, if you look at logo shown, I mean, how many actual customer names we lose, I would say we have a churn of maybe 10% to 15% a year or 1.5% per month. But revenue is a lot lower because the customers who leave us are small customers who don't use that very much.
Yep, so what's the revenue churn? It's about half that, I would say. Okay, so about 7% to 8% gross revenue churn per year? Gross, yeah. That's great. And then what's net? I don't have an exact number for that, but it's positive. I mean, we... Well, of course it's positive, but do you mean above 100%?
What I mean is if I... I mean, the customers to upgrade and use our solution more compensate for whatever we lose, if I put it like that. Yeah, so that would mean that you're above 100%, but I'm curious how far above. To be honest, I don't know. No, I'm not sure about that. Yeah. And just to be clear that we're measuring the same thing.
So if you go back a year and you look at everyone that signed up in October of 2017, and you fast forward to today, 8% of the revenue has churned. However, that same cohort has upgraded way more than 8%. So net revenue retention on that cohort is more than 100. Yes, exactly. That's great. Very good. And put this on a timeline for me. So when did you launch the company really full time?
Well, we launched it back in 2011, but as you mentioned, we started working with this full-time maybe from 2014 or so and started to hire people to bring into the company. So we built it up. Me and my co-founder, Marcus, started with ā at the time, we had other resources of income and built this on the side, but the first two or three years. So when we actually started full-time, we could ā
The revenue from our customers could pay our salaries and whatever costs we had. And we have built it since then. I'm curious, when you did decide to go full-time in 2014, what was the revenue about per month? Oh, that's a good question. 2015, we had a total revenue around 200,000 US dollars. 14, I don't remember. It was maybe half that. Okay. So maybe 100 grand and then 250 in 2015.
And then fast forward today. So what are you doing per month today? It's... About or above $100,000 a month. Okay. A hundred thousand. I mean, so that's, that's pretty healthy. So a hundred thousand per month. And you said earlier that it's about a $400 ARPU on those people paying monthly. What's put to your customer account at about what? 250? Well, not really.
It's a bit lower than that because you also have the setup fees. So, uh, we have subscription revenues of maybe 70,000. Oh, I see. Uh, a month. And then we have the setup fees. So about 170 customers then. Yeah. That are subscription ones. And then about the same number, uh, of, of, uh, single time customers that some of them convert into subscription later on.
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Chapter 3: What is the revenue breakdown between subscription and one-off customers?
Number two, is there a CEO you're following or studying? No, not really. Okay. I mean, I read a lot about him, several of them, but not one in particular. Number three, what's your favorite online tool for building a business? I'm not sure it's classified as an online tool, but we've built our whole business on Microsoft Azure and the Microsoft SaaS suite or cloud computing. That counts.
Number four, how many hours of sleep do you get every night? Between seven and eight. Okay, that's healthy. And what's your situation? Married, single, kiddos? Married, two kids. Two kids. Mats, you're a busy guy. All right, and how old are you? 43. 43. Last question. What do you wish your 20-year-old self knew? Oh, lots of things. But in this context, I think it's
to tell myself that you actually don't have to go into employment, but you can actually start your own business. That was something I didn't even think of at that time. Guys, start a company earlier. He took him four years to convince himself to finally quit and go all in, launch the company or the idea maybe in 2011, then went all in in 2015 once they could pay themselves salaries.
Today, a team of six people in Sweden in remote locations, they've passed about 175 customers doing about 70 grand per month in pure play SaaS revenue. Almost that beautiful million dollar run rate. Now they're already over that when you add in their kind of one-time fees as well, but growth is about 50% year over year. They've got net revenue retention over a hundred percent as well.
Only churning on a gross basis, about 8% of revenue per year, spending anywhere between six and 12 months of first year ACV to acquire these customers, which are again, folks looking to put on events, whether it's internal or external, that's what their app event app does. All right, Matt, thank you so much for taking us to the top. Thank you.
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