SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
1668 How He Got His First $1k in MRR Using Linkedin Sales Navigator
17 Feb 2020
Chapter 1: What company is Francesco Poteano building and what does it do?
They're essentially building slack for blue collar workers. It's called Mela.Work. They launched in 2017. One paying customer right now paying call it 10,000 bucks per year, but they've landed three or four pilots where those pilots are five or $10,000 setup fees as they experiment with how to build a recurring model around this. Currently burning about 18,000 bucks a month in capital.
Chapter 2: How did Francesco secure his first paying customer?
It's okay though, they've raised 300,000 bucks, so plenty of runway. They've got six people remote, too early to talk about unit economics as they look to scale. Got their first couple pilots using LinkedIn sales navigator, targeting things like Italy, engineering or maintenance, and then cold messaging them with a very specific ask. Hello, everyone. My guest today is Francesco Poteano.
Chapter 3: What revenue model is Mela using to generate income?
He is the CEO and founder of a company called Mellow Work. He went from identifying as a basketball player to graduating as a nuclear engineer, worked in that industry, got an MBA, and then joined a fast-growing tech company, lived in seven countries while doing so. He loves art, experimenting with food, and founded Mellow with two of his best friends a couple years ago.
Francesco, are you ready to take us to the top? Yes, Nathan. Hi. Thanks for having me. You bet. Okay, so tell us what the company does and what's your revenue model. How do you make money? So, we are a SaaS, so we have a subscription-based model. And what the company does is we have a tool, imagine a mix between a collaboration platform like Slack or WhatsApp, but for blue-collar workers.
So, a mix between that and an ERP, Enterprise Resource Management System.
Chapter 4: How is LinkedIn Sales Navigator utilized for customer acquisition?
Interesting. And so, what do companies pay on average for this per month? And so right now we have paid pilots with large enterprises that are one off of a few thousands. But our pricing model is like an enterprise annual recurring fee plus per user basis. Okay, so your average kind of pilot right now, I mean, are we talking $100,000 per year contracts, $10,000, a million?
For two months, we're speaking about between $5,000 and $10,000. For two months? Yeah. And is that $5,000 for like $5,000 one month and then another $5,000 the next month? Or is that $5,000 total? It's like a one-off fee. Some pilots are two months, some pilots are one month, some pilots are three months. So we charge like a setup of a few thousandths.
And then a recurrent, like annual enterprise fee plus based on the number of business. Do you have any that you've closed on the annual recurring stuff yet or no?
Chapter 5: What challenges does Francesco face in scaling the business?
We have one. Okay. And those contracts are typically going to be about how large? I mean, what are you targeting? It depends. Speaking of large enterprises, so we start with smaller contract targeting around $10,000 to $20,000 and then we try to expand. $10,000 to $20,000 per month or per year? Per year. Per year. Okay, interesting. Six a week.
And so if I pay you $10,000, let's say I wanted to use this, I pay you $10,000 for the year today, what do I get for that?
Chapter 6: What strategies are employed to build a customer pipeline?
So you get the additional functionality that the enterprise has. So like, it's specific, like customized exports and reporting, in addition to what the normal, what we call pro users have, plus dedicated support. So dedicated account manager, phone support instead of email, and so on and so forth. Interesting. When did you launch the company? What year?
So the company was founded a couple of years ago. We actually left our jobs and started working it full time about a year ago. Okay. So call it maybe 2017-ish. Have you guys raised capital or are you bootstrapped? We bootstrapped for the first nine to 10 months after we left our jobs. And then we raised a friend and family small round.
I'm pitched almost every day by a new CRM founder that wants to come on the show. And usually I say, yes, you guys know on the show, we love covering any B2B SaaS founder, but one story in this space just stands out. And that is a company that was launched in 1996. That means they survived 99. They survived the one, they survived so many different things and they've done it bootstrap.
It's a big CRM.
Chapter 7: How much capital has Francesco raised and how is it being used?
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Chapter 8: What insights does Francesco share about building a remote team?
If you want my special stuff, you go to ZohoCRM.com forward slash top. That's Zoho, Z-O-H-O-C-R-M.com forward slash top. Okay, so how much total have you raised? Between what we bootstrapped and what we raised, about 300 US dollars. Okay, 300,000 bucks. That's great. And what have you scaled to today in terms of total? You have one customer, but how many pilots are you running?
Yeah, we are currently running four pilots. And so it's large enterprises, which we didn't expect. Actually, we wanted to move the classic like small, medium businesses to large enterprises. But the larger ones were the ones who reacted the best. And so we're actually nurturing them. And we hope to switch to long term deal with them in the next two to three months.
And we have another pipeline of like.
15 to 20 uh that we hope to convert in the next six months i want to talk more about how you built up that pipeline here from scratch but first you know for running on a pilot of five to ten thousand bucks so what i mean there's 20 or 25 000 bucks in cash there right in setup fees yes correct and then in recurring today you have kind of one customer and you're doing about maybe a thousand bucks a month or 10 grand for the year or something like that yeah not not even that because at the
Yeah, very good. OK, so what are these folks looking for in the pilot that, you know, if you execute, they'll definitely say yes to a long term contract? So it's a different a few different use cases, but I would say that the most what they want to get out of it mostly is. is usage involvement. So they've tried other tools in the past.
They want to build an easy tool that people will actually use. And so we're trying to validate that people in the field, because we're speaking about production line workers, blue collars, will actually use the tool that... Otherwise, they wouldn't use like enterprise resource management system are much more complicated to use.
So we want to build like a usage, a use case and show that we add value in that sense. So some of them want to improve efficiency. Some of them want to improve trackability of what people are doing in the field. You know, stuff that stays on WhatsApp will never be reportable and trackable for the company. It's knowledge that gets lost.
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