SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
1691 Why This Company Rebranded with $950k Raised Helping Clients Customize Proposals
11 Mar 2020
Chapter 1: What led to ClientPoint's rebranding?
joined the ClientPoint team after a rebrand just about a year ago. Now they're serving thousands of seats. They charge about $75 per seat. Company launched in 2008. They're getting new customers using a webinar strategy and then an upsell funnel. They are doing about 40% year-over-year growth over the trailing 12 months. Burning capital right now, call it negative five to negative 12%.
EBITDA margins there. $950,000 raised on a convertible note.
Chapter 2: How does ClientPoint generate revenue through its services?
They're rolling that or letting it go through to about $1.5 million, hoping to close in the next couple of months. 25 people in California and remote. About 15% logo churn per year.
Chapter 3: What strategies are being used for customer acquisition?
No strong expansion strategy yet, but they are developing that.
Chapter 4: What is the current growth rate of ClientPoint?
Spending $7,000 to get a new customer. 14-month payback on a $35,000 lifetime valuation. Hello, everyone. My guest today is Andy Jednak. As ClientPoints president and CEO, he's a seasoned venture-backed high-growth leader with extensive board and operational experience. He's led the growth of large-scale digital media, SaaS, IoT, mobile, and app businesses in the B2C and B2B sectors.
Andy began his business career at NBCGE after completing a successful career as a professional basketball player in Europe.
Chapter 5: How much funding has ClientPoint raised recently?
Andy, are you ready to take us to the top? Absolutely. All right. Yeah, thanks for joining. So Lupin, Brian, real quick, you're obviously founder, or sorry, president, CEO, what's Brian do? Brian leads our sales and marketing. We're together today talking to clients. So I thought we'd both hop on with you. That's great. Okay, client point. Tell us about the company. What's the company do?
And how do you make money? All right. So client point is your digital wingman for your real world relationships. In business relationships are obviously important. They're everything. So As you grow your business and get new clients and get new partners, we create a custom website for every one of your sales prospects. Doing it is then simple, drag and drop, lightning fast and organized.
But really what it is, it includes all the documents you've developed to help you sell videos, agreements. Marketing materials, animations, even AR, VR content, e-signature, everything you need to help build the relationship, close the deal. You throw that up on a client point for that relationship and boom, higher close rates, shorter sales cycles, less proposal errors, it costs you business.
You know, plus for our smaller clients, because it looks so beautiful to have this client point as part of your sales process, they're getting bigger deals. It really makes them look really, really great. So while you're doing the real work, talking to your prospect, your client in the real world, we do all the work to support that relationship.
all aggregated together in one simple place, all the stuff you exchange and work on together, super easy, point and click. And Andy, how do you price, so how do you price, sorry to cut you off, but I want to get as much in as possible. How do you price the product? Sure, so it's typical B2B SaaS pricing.
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Chapter 6: What is the company's approach to pricing its services?
So we charge per seat per month. Okay, and what do you charge per seat per month? For our clients, we also have a tiered structure. And Andy, what do you charge per seat per month typically? On average, our clients pay $75 per seat. The larger ones pay a little bit more. The smaller ones pay a little bit more. The larger ones pay quite a bit less.
So would you self-select yourself in kind of the mid-market SMB or enterprise space? So we're the number one rated proposal automation for enterprise.
Chapter 7: What challenges does ClientPoint face regarding customer churn?
So we're in about a dozen verticals in the enterprise space, a lot of major clients that people have heard of. But we have a lot of small business clients. We have a lot of medium-sized business as well. Interesting. Okay, put this on a timeline for us. When did you launch the company? What year? So the company started 10 years ago. It was actually built to scratch its own itch.
2008 is a hell of a time to launch a company. I know. Well, well, the origin story is incredible. So, The company actually started as part of a facility services company that was in trouble because a lot of the biggest global players were trying to move into their territory. They needed to figure out how to look really, really big.
So what they did was they developed this proposal automation for their own company. They did it for two years. They beat back the global competition. which is actually our clients today. So they actually became our clients. And then in 2010, we launched it, made the product available. And ever since then, we've been cooking it. So who led the spin out?
Were you at the manufacturing company first and spun it out or what? No, actually, I just joined Brian as well. We both just joined at the beginning of the year. So the client that we spun out last year, we formed a called paperless proposal. We spun out, we rebranded as client point at the beginning of this year, Brian and I joined together and we've had a great year. Hold on.
I missed the connect to paperless, uh, paperless is a proposal or pipeline.
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Chapter 8: What are the future plans for ClientPoint's expansion?
Yeah, Paperless Proposal was our former name for many years. So a lot of your listeners may have heard of us as that. Why did you change? We changed it because we're really a lot bigger than just the idea of a paperless proposal. Our mission is to digitally super empower business relationships. Part of it is dating, getting married as two companies together, and a proposal is part of it.
But we're really the platform where you have your relationship between you and your prospect, ultimately you and your client. Client point is a lot more.
fitting to that paperless proposal is very kind of a narrow narrow description that doesn't fit where we're headed and what go ahead ryan 2008 paperless proposal was kind of innovative but now if you mention the name paperless proposal the quick objection you get is hey we're already paperless what are you talking about yeah it was important that we changed for that reason too interesting um uh there's always a catalyst when a new president or ceo is coming in and brian you're coming in too what was the catalyst at the beginning of this year why did you guys come in
Well, the, uh, the, the company clearly saw that, uh, you know, that we have a product that is very well respected, uh, the customers and clients we have in many industries love it. And it's rated very highly. the market seemed right to be able to grow. So the board and the founders, the chairman, Lawrence Abrams, decided it was time to really go hit the market hard.
The vector was going to be great. And so they decided to make the decision and brought folks like us in. And we've got a lot of background in growing companies. So we did it. You say board. I think VC. Has the company raised a bunch of traditional capital? It's all from the former company plowing money in. Yeah, no VC capital yet. We've got right now we're in the midst of a convertible round.
One of the board members brought in the first quarter million of that convertible round. When we started to build the team here at the beginning of the year, they decided to double it. And since then, we brought in more convertible investors, all but one of which are actually clients of ClientPoint. So we're up to $900,000. We're going to $1.5 million.
And then we're going to do a $5 to $7 million round in Q2 of next year. So to speak, you've raised $950,000 today on a convertible note. You're letting that roll to $1.5. Does that have a strong close date or no, it's infinite until you hit $1.5? Yeah, it's going to close pretty quickly. We see that it's going to probably close by the end of January, maybe February.
But I'm saying, what is the trigger to the closing? Is it a date or is it when you hit 1.5? It's when we hit 1.5. Okay, so this could technically roll infinitely if you never hit 1.5. It could. Right now, our pipeline... you know, has us, I don't think we have a problem circling that and getting that done. No, no, I get that, by the way.
What I'm saying is there are a lot of people that roll convertible notes. And what happens is it creates a really weird dynamic between the person that first put the first dollar in the note a year ago, right, that took way more risk than where the company's at today when I put a dollar in because it's less risky. You've proven some growth, but they're all on the same terms. That's why I'm asking.
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