SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
EP 547: Handshake.com Raises $24M, Helping 1000+ Customers Manage Store Product Purchasing with CEO Glen Coates
22 Jan 2017
Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
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Chapter 2: What is Handshake and how does it help businesses?
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Coming up tomorrow morning, I dive into the fintech space with Manuel Silva, who's a partner at Santander Innoventures. It's a $200 million fintech fund. They're very bullish on one of their investments, Cabbage. We'll break down why and where he sees fintech going. All right, guys, Nathan Latke here. Our guest today is Glenn Coates. He is the co-founder and CEO of a company called Handshake.
They focus on putting the right product on every shelf in every store. It goes between Sydney, San Diego and New York City. Glenn, are you ready to take us to the top? Totally. All right, man. Thanks for having me on the show. Thanks for jumping on. So it's not going to be easy. You know that, right? It's going to be tough. Oh, I'm well aware.
I've been at this for long enough to know that I get to choose. What's that quip from the Evernote guy? I get to pick any 23 hours a day that I'd like to work. There you go. All right. So so tell us what Handshake does and what's your business model? How do you make money? Great, so as you kind of just pointed out, Handshake is about getting the right product to every shelf in the world.
And so that's, you know, think about every store you've ever gone into, whether it was a shoe store or a grocery store or the hardware store, all the products on those shelves that we buy as consumers, how did they get there? Well, the way they get there is that the upstream suppliers have to sell them into those stores. And the thing that most people don't know
is that even though for you and I, Nathan, the world of buying things, ordering things has become the world of Amazon. If I want to order a car, I pick up my phone and I order an Uber. If I want to order food, I pick up my phone and I order Seamless.
The world that you and I are in, where we get to order things really easily, that world, one step back in the supply chain is totally broken and it's all... pen and paper and phone, fax, email. Imagine if we went back to the 80s and instead of ordering something from Amazon, I had to pick up a mail order catalog and send in a form to order a pair of shoes from the place that I wanted to buy it.
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Chapter 3: How does Handshake's business model work?
So we are probably approaching what a typical growth investor would consider the beginning of like a growth stage SaaS company. And what is that number? I've talked to many folks that have raised a series B that have our pre-revenue. Right, so most, a lot of growth stage investors talk about like kind of 10 million in ARR as being, you know, where they kind of find their sweet spot.
And, you know, we're in that kind of scale, right? So, I mean, it's fair to say, again, be as specific or general as you want, fair to say 800 grand in MRR plus or minus 100 grand, something like that? Without being specific, you know, we're in the order of magnitude. I thought you were gonna say without being specific, yes. I was going to say, I like this guy. All right. So good.
That's helpful to understand. So kind of big range. Is everything you're selling annual contracts or is there any folks actually paying monthly? Um, we used to have monthly contracts. Um, we, we sort of sunset those about, about a year ago now. Um, and we, we let some of the companies that were on those monthly contracts from kind of back in the day, um, stay on them as a kind of good guy.
Um, you know, kind of a good guy. Yeah. Yeah. We kind of grandfathered some of the older customers in, but, um, today all of our contracts are annual. And what have you, you mentioned you're thinking about Series B right now, or you've already raised a Series B. How much money have you raised to date? It's about $24 million, $24, $25 million, something like that.
And is that inclusive or exclusive of a Series B? That was including our Series B. So the three rounds that we raised were a $1.5 million seed round, an $8 million Series A, and then a $14 million Series B. And when did you close the Series B? in February of this year. So, you know, 10 months ago now. Okay.
So you're either right now, you're either raising another round of funding or you're in the middle of acquisition talks. Which one is it? No, neither. You know, we're only 10 minutes. Look at me with a straight face and say neither. straight faces say neither. We're not, we're not talking about either. We were fortunate enough to raise a healthy amount of money at the, at the last round.
And we're in hardcore execution mode. Like we are, you know, I kind of glossed a little bit over what our product is before. I kind of said, well, we do this sales thing and we do this e-commerce thing. But if you think about what we do, we make a really complex B2B e-commerce solution that works on the web and it works on native mobile. That's really hard.
And then it's integrated on top of a platform. that also supports sales reps using an integrated sales automation tool that is running off the same data.
And then that platform that sits underneath all of it has really advanced customization features in it, kind of similar to like a force.com that allows people to build in their own custom data types and their own business logic, and even customize the UI of the application, which works on web and mobile. So this thing we're building is, it's no main feed.
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Chapter 4: What challenges did Handshake face in its early years?
Totally. Yeah. Awesome. It's a leading indicator. Yeah. Okay. If Amazon came to you today, offered you 120 million bucks for the business, do you sell? No. You're so full of shit. I wouldn't. I just did the math in my head. All right. What math were you doing? I think the business is worth a lot more than that, even today. And the long term potential is many times that.
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Chapter 5: How has Handshake grown its customer base over the years?
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yeah yeah awesome all right let me throw you some softballs i'll give you some tough stuff famous five here these are one word answers glenn you ready yeah first one what's your favorite business book ah favorite business book um i'd say five dysfunctions of a team number two is there a ceo you're following or studying right now um honestly i would say uh
Dave Yarnold, who's a bit of a mentor to mine. He is the CEO of ServiceMax. They just exited to GE a couple of weeks ago. Congrats, Dave, if you're listening. But Dave's been a really great mentor to me, and I really look up to him. Number three, is there a favorite online tool you have, like TopTel? My favorite online tool, I don't know if this counts, is probably Boomerang for Gmail.
Yep, let's go to number four. Yes or no, do you get eight hours of sleep every night? Yeah, religiously. I don't deal well with not getting sleep. I'm already a cranky, pretty angry son of a bitch most of the time anyway. If I go below eight hours, it gets really rough to be around me. What's your situation? Married? Single? Do you have kids? I'm not married, but I have a long-term partner.
Got it. No kids then? No kids. How old are you? I'm 35. All right. Don't think about it. Last question. Take us back 15 years. What do you wish your 20-year-old self knew? I wish my 20-year-old self knew. I wish my 20-year-old self knew how...
intense uh running this company was gonna be and spent a lot more time making music and going surfing top drive there you have it from glenn coates ceo of handshake he would have surfed more if he knew how intense it is to really build a long lasting and look they're having a lot of success uh in their business over 24 million bucks raised to date serving over a thousand uh customers they like to stay under a year in terms of payback period but not sacrificing 100 year-over-year growth
somewhere around, can't confirm, but somewhere around 800 grand of monthly recurring revenue is what a Series B or Series C-ish company is looking at. They've got 80 folks or 70 folks based in New York City, again, making it easier for stores to get what they need and really deal with their supply chains and their product supply chains. Glenn Coates, thank you for taking us to the top.
Thanks, Nathan. If you enjoyed Glenn today, go back and listen to Josh yesterday. His podcast, The Pitch, made 80 grand in its first year sponsorship revenue and passed 700,000 downloads. Okay, Top Tribe, I'll see you bright and early tomorrow morning. And don't forget, before you listen to any other episodes, subscribe on iTunes right now for your chance to win 100 bucks every Monday.
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