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04 Mar 2022
Chapter 1: What is Coaster and how does it digitize vehicle rental operations?
We are not there yet. So I think you're quoting on the pipeline, but by end of this year, I think we will be at 100K MRR. You are listening to Conversations with Nathan Latka, where I sit down and interview the top SaaS founders, like Eric Wan from Zoom. If you'd like to subscribe, go to getlatka.com.
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He's building a company called Coaster, C-O-A-S-T-R.com.
Chapter 2: What challenges did Biz face in the vehicle rental industry?
It helps digitize vehicle rental operations. Now, he's a software engineer and management consultant by background. He's also an avid traveler. He's faced numerous issues while renting cars, which forced him to think about finding a disruptive solution for the industry to ensure fellow travelers can benefit from a truly digital car rental experience of the future.
Biz, you ready to take us to the top? Absolutely. Ready to go. All right. I know there's nothing I like less than flying across the country, landing in LA, waiting for the Fox Rent-A-Car bus to pick me up at the airport stop, then waiting in line at Fox Rent-A-Car for an hour, and then not having the car available that I booked because it wasn't actually confirmed.
And then it sounds like you've experienced the same problem.
Chapter 3: Who are the target customers for Coaster's software?
It is exactly the starting point of where...
the Coaster journey began is I'm quite a regular user of car rental myself and you know I just stopped to wonder what a kind of you know totally different experience could look like and that's where sort of the idea behind Coaster really emerged and what we are effectively doing is really you know taking a step back looking at what customers really want and providing the technology to the car rental operators to achieve that so almost making them future ready.
So who are you selling to? Are you selling to Fox Rent-A-Car and Hertz and these kinds of people? So, yes, a large part of our kind of proposition is to settle to or provide the innovation and the platform to car rental, vehicle rental operators. Although a lot of our focus tends to be in the more kind of SME sector. So, you know, we are trying to almost equip the local current businesses.
The reason for that is just another of my kind of or our founding finding is
that a lot of the local players don't have access to really state-of-the-art technology for them to build something that you know we can offer is really really difficult so we are sort of democratizing the access to such innovation for these and thereby creating an uplifting upliftment of the entire industry as a whole so that every bit of car rental services provided to you know every consumer or every corporate user achieves the same kind of digitization in future
And so what are these sort of car rental shops pay you per month to use the software? Well, it would vary depending on what they would take, but there's quite a bit of, you know, flexibility. So, for example, they could just use the software version without any of the kind of connected mobility or connected cars technology.
But very, very basic users would pay anything between kind of, you know, three to four pounds per vehicle per month. And that could... Three to four pounds per what? Per vehicle per month. per vehicle? What if a vehicle doesn't go rented? It's just sitting on the lot. So we it doesn't matter. So it's more on the asset rather than on whether they mean booked or not.
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Chapter 4: How does Coaster charge its customers for the software?
So we don't charge any commission on the booking. It's morally more about management of the asset because our platform is a operational platform, right? So how many cars? How many cars does on average do your customers have as an asset base? It would vary again, but we classify them as tier three and tier two.
So tier threes are anything between kind of 10, 15 vehicles to up to, let's say a thousand vehicles. And then tier twos are the slightly larger volume players. So anything with a thousand plus vehicles effectively is a tier two. And then your herds of the world are tier ones in our kind of the way we classify customer segmentation. Sorry, tier one is more than 10,000 vehicles?
I would say they are more multinational, global. They could have fleet anywhere from 100,000 plus. 100K plus. Okay, interesting. Okay, got it. That's helpful. So today, though, it's hard to focus on all three of these customer segments at once, right? So I'm going to force you into an average here so we can just move along. What does the average customer pay you per month? Is it 1,000 vehicles?
Chapter 5: What is the typical asset base of Coaster's customers?
So $5,000, $50,000 a month? Yeah, so I think our average consumer base on the tier threes would be about 150 to 200 vehicles. And then on the larger operator side, it's about on an average of 3,000 vehicles. The reason why I'm keeping them separate is The customer concentration is different. So if I find an average, it's going to be a heavily weighted average, which would not make any sense.
So we have to treat it as two separate segmentation and different averages. That's fine. How many are on tier three right now paying customers on tier three? So we currently we are obviously focused on the UK market. So we have about 50 plus customers. So these have been largely acquired in the last 12 months.
And on the tier two side, we have about three or four of them who are just coming operational. And then by end of this year, we are looking to bring some more which are on the early conversation or in the pipeline. We'd expect to get about 10 or 12 of them, hopefully by the end of this year. Okay.
But those tier two folks paying you for 2,000 vehicles at four bucks a pop, I mean, each of them are paying you something like 8,000 bucks a month, something like that. Um, I, I, um, so the math doesn't work exactly, um, on volume players. So the pricing for volume players would be, there would be heavy discounts.
Um, well, how heavy though, you just said the average tier two is paying three to four bucks a car.
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Chapter 6: How has Coaster's revenue evolved over the past year?
If I take four bucks times 2000 vehicles, that's eight grand a month. Yeah, so I was quoting you the price which you offer as a retail to tier three operators. With volume players, there would be a discounted offering of anything between 25 to 30%. So they would pay maybe a smaller amount, anywhere from kind of two pounds to three pounds per vehicle per month on the software only.
I see, I see, I see. So converting to USD, maybe like it's three bucks per vehicle per month across 2000 vehicles, which is the average you said, that's like six grand a month in revenue instead of eight grand. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. But still, I mean, we can take six grand a month times three or four of those that you're onboarding right now. I mean, that puts you at like 18, 20 grand of revenue.
Plus you've got 50 with 200 cars each, right? 200 cars at five bucks a pop. What is that? A thousand bucks a month. So it was like 50,000 bucks a month in your tier three segment. Yeah, well, I mean, on average, if you put it at 100, yes. So around about that figure. So we are on about kind of 750 to 1,000 per smaller tier of customer. And then there's the upsell piece.
Chapter 7: What funding rounds has Coaster completed and why do they need more capital?
So as they take more of the connected mobility solutions like telematics, keyless NB, that figure jumps three times as well in terms of the pricing. I see. But MRR today is about 100,000 bucks a month, something like that. We are not there yet. So I think you're quoting on the pipeline, but by end of this year, I think we will be at 100K MRR. And so what are you at today? Like 10K, 20K?
Roughly about 20K. Okay, got it. So when you told me that you had 50 customers on the tier three plan and three or four on the tier two, those are not paying customers. Those are people that are in your pipeline. So out of the 50 that I mentioned, all of them are paying customers, but their fleet would vary. So I've given you an average.
I think if you are looking for a more accurate figure, then you have to ask me an accurate figure. But the whole idea here is they pay per use. So as their inventory changes, sometimes they start off with 100. They could go up to 200.
they pay per use so um as as as you said that you said that they were paying per asset now you're saying they pay per use as the asset goes up and down they would pay based on the increase and decrease of the volume of the asset. So it's not a fixed amount.
Chapter 8: What are Biz's future goals for Coaster's growth?
What I'm saying is if they have 20 cars today in month one and 30 cars in month two, they would not pay for 30 cars on month one. They would pay only for 20 cars on month one. And as they increase, they would pay for 30 cars in month two. If they then go down into back to 20 cars, then they would pay for 20 cars. So it sort of follows the asset volume of them. Do people go down a lot?
If someone goes from 30 cars down to 20, are they selling off 10 cars in a month? Yeah. I think you probably haven't heard about the major crisis in this industry with supply. So a large part of the asset going down is a result of lack of supply from vehicle manufacturers.
So effectively what has happened is a lot of rental companies, small and big, both they have to deflate, but they don't have the same volume of incoming vehicles effectively there. Why do they have to deflate? If you don't deflate at the right time, then effectively you are losing out money. So the revenues on the way the rental model work, and I'm sort of going back and going to the basics here.
So rental income or rental companies on income from two ways. One is buying and selling of the vehicle at the right time. So they buy in bulk at a reduced cost and then sell their assets at the right time to optimize the value of that asset. So deflating is essential. And in the meantime, then they are sort of earning through the depreciation of the vehicle by putting it out on rental.
So they would have to sell the fleet at a certain point. Some of them do it within six months. I think enterprise and some of the larger operators, the smaller operators sometimes take it up to 18 months. But most of them, you will always see them selling between six to 18 months effectively. I see. I see. All right, guys, this is almost comical. These guys reached out to sponsor the show.
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in 2018 and uh we sort of um started trading um 2020 august uh that's when our beta platform or the soft beta version of the platform went out live with three or four customers uh they're paying some minimalistic revenue um or only some minimalistic revenue but from january 2020 we really sort of increased our user base so that's where we kind of jumped to about
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