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He Quit Google To Invent Smart Way to Recruit, Doing Around $50k/mo in Sales, EP 272: Troy Sultan
09 Jun 2016
Chapter 1: What inspired Troy Sultan to leave Google and start his own venture?
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Chapter 2: How did Troy's experience at Grooveshark shape his career?
And he currently is working a full-time job and is dying to get out. Good morning, everybody. You are listening to episode 272 of The Top. And coming up tomorrow morning, you're going to hear from Ben Williamson. He launched an app that is redefining how on-demand apparel commerce works with over 3 million downloads and over 3 million sales already. Okay, Top Drive. Good morning, everybody.
You're going to enjoy our guest today. His name is Troy Salton. He's the founder and CEO of a resource, Recruiting Automation, ex-director of recruiting at Grooveshark, along with ex-Google.
Chapter 3: What lessons did Troy learn about hiring while at Google?
He's a Florida boy and a startup geek. Troy, are you ready to take us to the top? Born ready. Let's do this. All right. Let's do it. Yeah. It's like you guys, everyone from Florida is so cool. You're born ready for everything, right? All right.
Chapter 4: How does Resource automate the recruitment process?
So tell me real quick, how old are you today? And did you do Google right after college? I am 27 and I didn't. I went the startup route, founded my own company directly out of college and then would join another startup, Grooveshark.com, and then would join Google after that. Okay. So when you joined Grooveshark, was that early stages or later stages? It was early stages.
We were about 40 employees and I was the first person to head up recruiting. Okay, so did you, I imagine you were early enough there to get equity, right? Yes.
Chapter 5: What is the business model for Resource and how does it generate revenue?
Awesome. That's good. They had a good exit, didn't they? They didn't. They actually imploded because we got sued for $17 billion. I was going to say, why is it ringing a bell? It was either something really good or really bad. So you got your asses sued. Got it. Yep.
Chapter 6: What challenges does Resource face in customer retention?
By $17 billion. Who sued? The four major record labels. Yeah, that's basically them going, we just need to figure out a way to shut them down. Let's sue them for $17 billion. Exactly. It's like a 300-year life sentence, right? Same thing. Precisely. Good learning lessons in the failures, too.
Chapter 7: How does Troy manage equity discussions with co-founders?
The hard failures. Okay, good. So, Grooveshark failed miserably. You then go to Google. What year was that? That was 2000, end of 2013. Okay, 2013, you go to Google. What are you doing at Google? I was working on hiring experimentation. So I was looking at a lot of the hiring processes of the online channel in and around the technical hiring.
Chapter 8: What advice does Troy have for aspiring entrepreneurs?
So it's all the engine product hires and then working on learning and development for the recruiting organization. Okay, got it. And so walk me through the thinking when you decided that Google, that you were going to break out and do your own startup. Yeah. I will step back a little bit, which might provide some color. I did a startup my senior year of college.
We worked on that for about a year. We bootstrapped that company. We recruited about 10 people. We made every mistake in the book. A year in, I was at a crossroads. My first two advisors were the co-founders of Grooveshark, actually. I consulted with them as to whether or not
They can help me decide whether I'd be farther along in, let's say, 10 or 20 years down the road of my entrepreneurial journey of building companies if I had kind of kept going this route of learning, failing, learning, failing on my own or sacrificing a couple of years as I kind of looked at it, joining a startup that was working and growing, learning what that really looked like intimately from the inside.
And then leaving and doing my own thing, would I kind of accelerate faster past those, you know, those latter years, past where I would have been otherwise if I sacrificed those first few. And so, long story short, I decided to do that. I would join Grooveshark. I think it was one of the single best decisions I've made in my career thus far.
Got to see a company grow up to 150 employees very quickly. Got into roles that were way above my head. And then went to Google to kind of finish that journey to see what an actual large company with real process and real kind of structure looked like. And so when did you realize that you weren't going to stay at Google? When did you decide to leave and start your own thing? Sure.
I decided that before I joined. Don't tell anybody, though. That's okay. So you're basically just going there to maybe confirm some ideas you had about the business for the startup. Yeah. a couple objectives. I wanted to kind of see how a big company worked, how did leadership look, what did structure look like.
At Grooveshark we had two offices on one coast and that was a huge challenge and I just couldn't fathom how a company can operate in multiple countries. I just wanted to see it, the utmost evolution of a startup. Anything surprise you? I think a lot of things surprised me. I realized that the org chart is very deep and a lot of delegation is happening.
It's not so much Larry and Sergey leading the company as much as it is your org director and managers, etc. Another interesting one would be the quality of your experience at a bigger company is heavily correlated with the quality of your manager, which is one of several takeaways. Got it. So you leave Google, you launch GetResource.io, is that right? Correct.
So what does GetResource.io do and how do you make money? Yep. So Resource automates a slice of the recruiting process for growing companies.
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