SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
Largest SaaS Founder Event in Europe Will do $3m+ This Year, Starts Oct 17th!
31 Aug 2022
Chapter 1: What revenue did the SaaS conference generate in its first year?
When you did your last full year, when you did it in 2019, 2.9 million revenue. Do you remember total expenses that year? It was quite a bit, maybe like 2.2, something like that. Wow. You are listening to Conversations with Nathan Latka, where I sit down and interview the top SaaS founders, like Eric Wan from Zoom. If you'd like to subscribe, go to getlatka.com.
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Chapter 2: What challenges did the founder face when organizing the first SaaS conference?
Usually I read off a thing and I go, okay, what bio did they give me? But I can just speak from the heart with Alex, man. This thing started, like I met this guy, it's gotta be over four years ago at this point. And I've learned a couple of things about Alex.
Number one, the guy runs an incredible SaaS conference called SaaS Talk, which is coming up here shortly, October 17th and 19th in Dublin that you wanna check out. But never challenge this guy to any sort of beer drinking. He will not only drink you off the stage, he will dance you off the stage, he will sing you off the stage, he will take over the stage.
Alex, are you ready to take us to the top? I'm ready, Nathan. I'm ready.
Chapter 3: How did the founder secure sponsorships for the conference?
All right. So give us the quick background. Obviously, you've got the big event coming up here in about three or four weeks, but what year did you put on the first SaaS stock? Yeah, it was 2016. September 2016 was the first SaaS stock. We pretty much worked on it for a whole year, 12 months of period. I had no prior conference experience.
But having set up a SaaS blog and podcast, the SaaS Revolution Show, then done some local SaaS meetups and looking for that entrepreneurial thing to do, the community and the audience that I built back then saying, like, why don't you do a SaaS conference? And I was looking for that entrepreneurial thing to do.
Chapter 4: What unexpected costs did the founder encounter while planning the event?
And it kind of all came together. Obviously, the limiting factor was zero experience in conferences, which obviously was a big challenge. But, you know, I had that experience. I say blind entrepreneur optimism that kind of said, well, it's not going to be rocket science and I'll be able to do it. But obviously, I learned a lot of hard things along the way.
But given 12 months to work on a single event, we spent a lot of time doing that and grafting to get 700 founders from, I think, like 34 countries to the first conference. And I'd say the rest was history, but there's a lot of history in between that time. But that was the first one, 2016. We were joking before this, you know, we were talking about like, it's hard to run a VC fund.
It's hard to run a SaaS company.
Chapter 5: How did the revenue split between ticket sales and sponsorships evolve over the years?
I mean, I will tell you, I've had a SaaS company founder path is sorta, it's not VC, right? It's debt. We don't take equity, but like, it's kind of the same. There's a fund we manage there. And then also like we now have like a mini event, dude, events are maybe the hardest because of just the, like the nature of the pressure.
For example, in 2016, do you remember the initial check you had to write to reserve the space? Yeah. Do you know what? It was super small initially, but I kind of got hoodwinked into it in terms of the strategy from the particular venue. But when I was looking in London as a bootstrap founder, I was being asked, looking at venues, they were like 80,000 pounds.
Chapter 6: What was the attendance and revenue growth in the second year of the conference?
I didn't have that sort of money and you had to put a good deposit down for that. So I ended up looking in Dublin, Ireland, and we looked at the venue, which is the RDS, which is the same venue that Web Summit used to run at. And the last Web Summit was in 2015, 2016. They had 40,000 people there. So this venue has like real capacity to scale.
And when I looked at this beautiful concert hall, which was the first sort of space that we were kind of like booking and all three, I got a quote of 10,000 euros and I only had to put 1,000 down. Wow. And I was like, I can do that. And then with the rest of it, obviously, I'll just sell tickets and I'll sell sponsorship and it'll cover my costs.
I think that $10,000 ended up being nearer to $40,000 by the time of the conference because you've got to pay for certain things that you just didn't really realize that were kind of there.
Chapter 7: What strategies did the founder implement to improve future conferences?
And if you want to use any square inch of their property, you'll get charged for it. So there were a lot of things that I just wasn't aware of. And it ended up becoming quite expensive, certainly for the first time for me. Wait. So again, guys, I think a lot of you guys are SaaS founders listening, thinking about launching your own user conferences. There's a lot to learn here from Alex.
So Alex, what were the 30K in surprise costs you didn't anticipate? Oh, my God. The list is as long as my arm. One big surprise cost actually was I started selling sponsorships and my first two sponsorships was the first one was to ChartMogul.
Chapter 8: What is the SaaS founder membership and what benefits does it offer?
The second one, and I kind of pre-sold that one before the conference because Nick Franklin said, look, if you do this conference, we'll sponsor it. And so as soon as I had a venue and as soon as I think I had the dates, Before I had the website, I went to Nick and said, you said you were a sponsor. And he did. He kind of put his money where his mouth was.
It was like 15,000 euros, I think, something like that, which is pretty good, right? And this is placing a bet on somebody that's never done anything like this before. So it's a good bet. When we went live, surprise, surprise, the first person that kind of contacted me then was Patrick Campbell from ProfitWell, ChartMogul's competitor. And we ended up doing the deal on Christmas Eve with PC.
Same 15 grand? I think they paid a little bit less, a little bit of a discount. But Patrick was a hard negotiator. And even doing the deal on Christmas Eve, I was like, come on, man, it's Christmas. I need the day off. But I was grateful to get the deal done because obviously that gave me extra runway. However, getting to the point, I sold all these packages and silver and gold and etc.,
What I didn't realize was I was selling these booths and I had no idea what the cost of the booth was going to be until like six months later. So actually on some of them, I'd lost money on some of the sponsorship deals that I made. So that was kind of a big kick in the teeth. And I tried in some cases to pass the cost on to the vendor, but in some cases they weren't amenable to that.
So that was a bit of a learning, certainly maybe the biggest kind of like F-up experience How many total sponsors did you end up with in 2016? Do you remember? It was a pretty good amount. I want to say it was like over 30. And the revenue was 50-50 with ticket sales for the first year. I think I had a good advantage in that I had 11-year sales experience.
And given that I was, let's say, a solopreneur, Back at that time and very hungry and driven, I was every day doing outbound. We didn't get much inbound, even though PC was an inbound. But I was just contacting everybody and managing to get some meetings and going out to meetings and closing deals. Yeah, so that kind of really helped.
So I was the first sales guy in the business until we got over a million in revenue and then we made our first hire. Interesting. So going back to 2016 real quick, what was total revenue? This is like 350,000 euros, roughly. Okay. So like 175 from ticket sales, 700 tickets, another 175 from 30 sponsors. Pretty much. Yeah, pretty much. Interesting.
And do you remember the largest... This must have been a celebration. Do you remember the largest sponsorship you sold in the first year? I remember the largest one we didn't sell. But I mean, the quick story there was obviously you've got these, you know, the different tiers, right? And you've got your top tiers, which is often like a diamond or I think back then it was platinum.
We started at 5K and I think we went up to 60K for the first year. And we had no takers for the 60K. But at one point, Workable kind of had a look around at this and they were thinking about being the lead sponsor. But I think they offered me like 30K for the 60K package. And I said, no, uh, I said, well, I'm not doing 50% discount, et cetera.
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