SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
Quanthub Helps you Hire Engineers, Raised $2m on $8m Valuation, On Track to Break $1m ARR
26 Sep 2021
Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
So we went into 2020 at 260K. So we sold about 260 or exactly 260 in our first year. And then, yeah, over the last year and a half, call it, I've gotten up to 450. You are listening to Conversations with Nathan Latka, where I sit down and interview the top SaaS founders, like Eric Wan from Zoom. If you'd like to subscribe, go to getlatka.com.
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Prior to QuantHub, his current company, he spent 15 years running product and tech at PE-backed companies, including building a product engineering organization at Daxco, delivering a 10x revenue growth, 7 acquisitions, and 3 enormously successful recapitalizations.
He led the team to deliver the first machine learning and AI solution to the gym and fitness market and is now focused on data literacy, hiring, and upselling at QuantHub.com. Matt, you ready to take us to the top? Yeah, let's do it, Nathan. All right. What does this mean, data literacy hiring? Well, so there are sort of two aspects of what we do. Both are focused on data skills.
And so hiring would be for organizations that are trying to hire data engineers, trying to hire data scientists. We have an assessment platform that helps them do so. So that market's a little crazy right now. Everybody wants to be in that field. So you're getting flooded with applicants. Not always a lot of great ones. So customers of ours are...
global management consulting companies that are interviewing thousands and thousands of candidates a year. And so they'll use our assessments to benchmark basically who has the skill to do the job and who doesn't. Are those your biggest customers? Then it's the consulting agencies, the KPMGs of the world? Yeah.
So one of our biggest customers is a recognizable name, the top two or three management consulting companies. HP is a customer of ours on that side as well. JetBlue is a customer. We signed them, of course, right before the pandemic. So they kind of stopped hiring a little bit. I don't know if you've noticed the airline industry was struggling a little bit, but...
So, yeah, those types of companies that are doing a fair amount of hiring in that space. And then we've expanded actually into upskilling for kind of skills, data skills across the board. So data literacy being just the fact that we all consume data. We all operate with data. We all use data in the modern workforce. yet we don't really have the skills to do so.
There's plenty of World Economic Forum has some really good research on that front. So we have an upskilling platform that's basically like a duolingo of data skills that's helping employees across the entire enterprise upskill in data. And Matt, are you handling the full spectrum here?
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Chapter 2: What is data literacy hiring and why is it important?
What year did you spin it out? 2018, April of 2018. And how much revenue was the agency doing before you decided to shut that down and spin out this new SaaS product? So the agency actually stayed on and we just, I basically actually came on on sort of day one to run this as an offshoot of that company. We didn't have any customers. We didn't have, we barely had a product.
I mean, it was very, very early days. Did you have like founder employees then? Did I personally? Are you essentially the founder?
Chapter 3: How does QuantHub assess candidates for data roles?
You owned 100% on day one. Maybe the agency has a little bit. So the agency was the primary shareholder. I came on and obviously have incentive equity as well as CEO. So basically, we had two co-founders there. And then given the stage of the product, I came on and really is kind of a third co-founder. Sorry, I'm confused. So the agency and who are the two co-founders?
So the CEO of the company was a company called StrategyWise, was an AI consultancy. He's one of the co-founders. The guy who's now our CTO was a chief data scientist at that firm. He's the other co-founder. And then basically I came on because they continued. They had a good business on that side. And when it felt like this had its own future, needed somebody to come on and run it.
And so I came on as basically a third co-founder and CEO. Okay. Got it. And then how many customers are you now serving today compared to when you joined Yeah, we didn't have any customers when I joined. It was just sort of a proof of concept type product. So I came on, we raised money. We built out the product the rest of the way and, or at least, you know, sort of MVP, if you will.
Started bringing on customers in 2019. Sold 260K in our first of ARR in our first year.
Chapter 4: Who are the primary customers of QuantHub?
We're now up to 21. Yeah, that was a good start. We're now up to 21 customers. Yeah, so we're doing pretty well. Yeah. So 2019 was about $250,000 in sales. You now have 21 customers. Are they all paying about $2,000 a month? So that's the average ACV. It's really pretty lumpy. So we're starting now to sell. It's almost exclusively to enterprises.
And so we have some six-figure deals and well into the six figures. And then we have some $4,000 deals. So we're a little bit all over the place. But the average is $2,000 times $21,000. That would put you at about $42,000 a month right now in revenue. Yeah. Yeah, we're at 450K in ARR. That's great. And it sounds like that's almost doubled from where you were about a year. Well, no, no, no.
Maybe a little bit less. Where were you a year ago? A year ago. So we went into 2020 at 260K. So we sold about 260 or exactly 260 in our first year. And then, yeah, over the last year and a half, call it, have gotten up to 450. We've since, you know, the hiring side slowed down a little bit. What did you finish 2020 with, though, in terms of ARR run rate? 2020, we finished at just about 400.
400. Okay, got it. So I guess, I mean, look, so this is a fair question then, I think. Why have you only added 50 grand in new ARR in the past eight months? Yeah. So we actually were expanding into, I mean, like any startup, we're looking at opportunities and trying to see where we think we fit the best and where we're differentiated and where the market's headed. And we made a decision about...
Chapter 5: What is the significance of upskilling in data skills?
about nine, well, about 10 months ago, that we felt like upskilling was actually a big part of our future in addition to the hiring side. And so we focused a pretty good amount of our business on upskilling and specifically in data literacy, where this is sort of The next gen of the workforce has to have data skills.
It's almost like in the 90s when computers came out, we just all of a sudden couldn't work without computer skills. We're getting to that point with data skills as well. We're not quite there yet, but data literacy is a big movement. And we have a really a unique approach to that. And so we've, to a degree, shifted towards that. And that problem exists in enterprises.
and and really exclusively almost in enterprises and so we started selling that late last year and and really had kind of a v1 product in january of this year and so you know it just takes a little time to get enterprises up and going and so we just started a a pilot with Dell in Singapore.
We've got a company called Axiata, who's a big Malaysian Verizon-like company, $37 billion company out of Malaysia. They just started the other day. So our target is a million in ARR by the end of the year. Okay. So you think you can get up to 80 grand a month in the next four months, three months? Absolutely. Okay. And tell me a little bit more about how you've chosen to capitalize the business.
So you mentioned to raise, how much did you raise and when? Yeah. We raised a note round early on in our existence in July of 18. That was 1.25 million. And we've since raised just shy of another 2 million. Okay. And that was a priced round. When was that? What year? That actually was during 2020, basically closed at the end of the year. Okay. Got it. So 2 million raised in 2020, priced round.
What valuation did you raise at? Yeah, we raised it an $8 million pre. Was that right? Feel fair? Yeah, I think so. I mean, I think look at the market size, look at the traction that we've gotten, the types of brands that we brought on. Yeah, I think so. Yeah. I mean, what is that? What multiple is that? It's a 20X multiple on 400 grand of AR. That's not bad. Oh, yeah. Yeah.
I think at our stage, multiples are a little, yeah, a little hard to go by multiples at this number in this scale. But yeah, I think it's still fair. Yep. No, no, obviously a lot of it is story.
I guess the only part of the story that doesn't make sense to me is why a guy like you with your background would, I mean, you're basically starting from ground zero, but you don't have equity like a founder has equity because you were like the third co-founder essentially coming in unless they gave you like 70%, which I don't think they did. So why not just go start your own thing?
Why did you decide to join us instead? Well, I mean, I hadn't been in this type of role quite this early stage, so my background was more kind of CTO-type role of more of a growth-oriented SaaS business, still SMB, but I went into that company at about 6 million in ARR, and we ended up at 80 plus by the time I left. That was more the scale.
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Chapter 6: How did QuantHub evolve from an AI consulting company?
Probably about seven hours. Seven. And what's your situation? Married, single, kiddos? Yeah, married. I'm 47, almost 48. My son is 20 at University of Illinois and my daughter is 18 as a senior in high school. It's crazy. That's great. Take us home. Last question. Something you wish you knew when you were 20. I've thought about it a lot. I have no regrets.
When I was 20, I wasn't doing this at all. I was a chemist at Procter & Gamble and not knowing that I wanted to do technology. So I went back to school and got a master's in chemical engineering and started working at Accenture and so found my way into tech. So I would like to know that I was more interested in that, but I'm afraid it would have changed my course and I wouldn't change anything.
Guys, there you have it. Quantub got going in 2018 as an agency spin-out. They're now serving 21 customers. These are customers like HP and others that are looking for data engineers to hire. Quantub helps them understand which engineers can pass the tests or challenges they set up, and then also help upskill those employees once they are hired full-time.
They raised a $2 million seed round at the end or mid last year at an $8 million valuation. Team of 10 now looking to scale and break a million dollars in terms of run rate by the end of 2021 here. We're rooting for you, Matt. Thanks for taking us to the top. Yeah, thanks, Nathan. Appreciate it.