SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
QuickOrder Hits $4m In Under 18 Months Helping Restaurants Survive Pandemic
03 Oct 2020
Chapter 1: How did QuickOrder grow to $4 million in revenue in under 18 months?
So COVID crazily accelerated us. So we are now at 368k monthly recurring revenue. We are, as you know, 40 plus people and we were just around 14 at the time where we talked last time. You are listening to conversations with Nathan Latka. Now, if you're hearing this, it means you're not currently on our subscriber feed to subscribe, go to get latka.com.
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Chapter 2: What unique challenges did QuickOrder face during the pandemic?
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Chapter 3: What products and services does QuickOrder offer to restaurants?
I grant 100% of those requests, no questions asked. Hello, everyone. My guest today is Mads Wetterkopp. He is the 24-year-old CEO and co-founder of QuickOrder. He's been leasing since the age of 17, where he led a sales team of eight people. At 18, he was in charge of 120 people. He founded QuickOrder at age 18 and has since grown the company from five co-founders to 40-plus employees.
Mads, you ready to take us to the top? Yeah, let's do it. Five co-founders, man. What does that mean? You guys each have like 20% of the company on day one? Yeah, so each 20% and been equally shared ever since. You guys don't fight? You get along? We get along, yeah. So I'm the only one left in management. The other guys are in operations today. But yeah, it has always worked out really great.
So tell us about the product.
Chapter 4: How did QuickOrder's revenue change after merging with a Norwegian partner?
What is Quick Order? So Quick Order is an all-in-one SaaS solution for restaurants and cafes. We call it a restaurant OS. So it consists of point of sale, scheduled planning for staffing, table booking, and most importantly, online ordering and in-seat ordering from the consumer's phone in the restaurant. So everything is combined.
And on top of that, we use the data to generate customer engaging insights and operational efficiency insights to the restaurant. Now, when you came on back in June of last year, I believe it was, you guys had raised about $2 million. You told me that you guys had just passed, I think, about $20,000 a month in revenue. Correct. You had about 305 customers.
Obviously, COVID has happened since then. Where's the business today? So, COVID crazily accelerated us. So, we are now at $368,000 in revenue. $386,000? Yeah, $368,000. $368,000. 368,000 a month. Yeah. We are, as you know, um, 40 plus people and we were in just around 14 at the time where we talked last time.
So just to be clear, you guys are doing like more than it's about a four million, four and a half million dollar run rate. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that's incredible growth. That's crazy growth over 12 months. You went from nothing to 4 million run rate in under 18 months. Yeah. Correct. We're very, very happy with that. So yeah, it's been a crazy ride.
Our AIPC also went up after we added the in-seat and online ordering to the business. So we are now at 283 US dollars per location. And that puts us at just around 1,300 locations all across Dynamics. So 1,300 locations. And are those individual customers or are they sometimes there's four customers? Yeah. Yeah, so sometimes it can be 10 locations for a logo. Okay. Yeah. Okay, great.
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Chapter 5: What strategies did QuickOrder implement to attract new customers?
And 10, okay, so 10 locations per account. So how many are unique? So I have 1,300 locations. How many are worth a unique brand? So I actually don't have an exact number for that because we count locations, but a good guess would be just around 1,000. So it's various groups. Got it. So 1300 locations across a thousand sort of different brands and they pay about $280 per location.
That's how you have four and a half million dollar run rate today. Yeah. Okay. So how, I mean, this is incredible, incredible story here, Mads. How did you, I mean, how did you go from, you know, you know, nothing. I mean, you basically grew 4 million in revenue very quickly. Where are you getting these customers? How are you setting them up?
So part of it came from a merge with a Norwegian partner, not competitors in any way, but they were doing online ordering. And of course they brought in a lot of synergies to the business. So we were able to accelerate the growth a lot by bringing those guys in. And the other part came from us being really, really fast to react to COVID. So when COVID started back in March,
we were the only post in the nordics basically um special in denmark norway had a few competitors but we were one of the only ones in the nordics that had both posts and integrated online takeaway for for their home page and the ability for the guests to order from the table with their phone
And that just created a huge spike in demand because then the restaurateurs would actually continue operating instead of being shut down by the government. But which of these, Mads, I mean, when you look at your website, you have and you feature four products. You have Cedar, which is table booking. That's obviously out the window of COVID because no one's coming in and sits it down, right?
Table booking, yep. quick manager, salary and shift schedule. I imagine that's not as popular now with COVID. You have quick serve, which is the handheld terminal for waitresses to use at tables. I imagine, again, that's not great. If there's no one sitting, you don't need that. And then you have the quick POS cash register system.
I imagine that's the product that's building and growing the fastest. It's the post and the post capabilities of doing online ordering. So the post has a consumer facing side to it. Interesting. Accelerated everything. So a restaurant brand could take your old sort of quick point of sale system, which is a cash register system.
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Chapter 6: How does QuickOrder manage customer success and retention?
You have a version of that and they can just, the restaurant can put on their homepage and then consumers can order via the homepage and feeds into their system. Yeah, correct. So they don't have to handle a card reader or cash for that sake. And it's just in general, very, very COVID friendly. Everything is on the consumer's phone. The waiter comes to the table with what's ordered and paid.
So there's also minimal interaction between the waiter and, And the guest, and that of course keeps physical distance, which is really great in COVID times. So of the $368,000 you'll do, or you did last month, did you have any profits or were you cashflow negative? Still just cashflow negatives, just very, very close to break even.
So when you say, I mean, you're like, you're burning $5,000 a month or something small? Yeah, it's very small. It's less than 10K a month. Okay. And have you raised additional capital or still have the 2 million? We raised another $1.5 million-ish. So in Danish, it's just around 10. So 1.5 calculated into dollars. And that basically put us at this point where we are now.
So you raised total $3.5 million. Are you planning to raise additional capital now to double down on the growth you've seen? Not now. We're actually waiting for the market, the VC market, to kind of find its feet again. We are in the fortunate position where if we just keep doing what we do, we will hit rate even within a few months. And that is with additional hires.
So we can kind of play the waiting game and let the VCs line up. That's great. So 40 folks on the team. How many engineers? So that is, it's been so far, so just around 20. 20 engineers. Okay. And any quota-carrying sales reps or no? Yes. So we have, that's three now, but if you include CS, who also have a quota, it's 10. 10. Why do you give your customer success reps a quota?
I see customer success as a sales position. It's not an clients to existing clients because they know the best which clients can have use of other parts of our product, which they might not be paying for today.
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Chapter 7: What lessons did Mads learn about funding and equity dilution?
What quota do your sales reps have? So the way we calculate it is that we take the base salary and we want them to do 4x the base salary and annual contract revenue every month. Okay, so let's make up a number. Let's say I'm one of your sales reps. You're paying me $50,000 annually. What you're saying is you want me to close $200,000 in new ARR every month?
No, so monthly salary times four in annual revenue every month. So if you do 10K a month base salary, I want you to do 40K annual contract value every month. I see. So yeah, so just to get, so we're talking about the same lengths of time for each. If you're paying me $10,000 a month base as a sales rep, you want me adding 40,000 a new ACV, which is equivalent to about $3,500 of new MRR. Yeah.
Yeah. Correct. I see. Interesting. And has that sort of worked? Do you think you can scale with those sort of ratios? Yeah, that is working very well. Our leads are super cheap. So with that ratio, we've been able to now have four guys selling, and we expect to get that to 10 within the next 12 months. Sorry, get what to 10? The product-bearing sales reps.
So from four to 10 within the next 12 months. Oh, sorry, in terms of hiring more? Yeah, hiring more. Okay, got it. You said you get leads very cheap. What's it cost you in terms of fully weighted CAC to get a new $3,500 a year customer? Yeah. So if you factor everything in with salary and onboarding and ad spend, our CAC right now is $2,000. $2,000. Okay.
So about 10 month, 11 month payback period. Yeah. Yeah. And it's actually a bit shorter because we have an upfront fee from our clients, which kind of cuts down that payback period a lot. What's the upfront fee? So that's just around a thousand US dollars. And what is that for setup or something?
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Chapter 8: What are Mads' future plans for QuickOrder's growth?
Yeah, that's for setup. Yeah. Interesting. So like helping them install your checkout system on their homepage. Yeah, exactly. Okay. Churns critical in a SaaS company. Last time you came on, you said it was about 18% annually. What's it today in terms of revenue? So growth, were you asking about growth? Sorry, sorry. Revenue churn annually. Yeah. So annually we are around 10%.
And do you have expansion revenue as well? Yeah. So net revenue retention is actually 131%. Okay. So you're churning 41% annually. You're expanding, sorry, you're churning 10% annually. You're expanding 41% annually. So net revenue retention is 131. Yeah. What's the most effective way that your customer success reps are driving expansion revenue?
Is it selling into new products or is it upselling a utility-based usage metric? So the single most efficient one is actually making the restaurateurs implement the loyalty scheme of our online ordering product in order to generate more online orders, because we have a revenue kickback on those orders. So that's the single most efficient one.
Then the second most efficient one is upselling, no not upselling, press selling, so that we make sure that the clients have the full product suite. Super smart. Very good. Mads, you're building an animal here, man. You should be excited. Yeah, I am. It's amazing. And all the co-founders, they're still in the company, so they all still have about 20%? Yeah. So everybody is still in the company.
Everybody owns equally. Of course, we dilute it after funding, but we own equally. That's great. And how old are you? Uh, 24 and the other guys are between 22 and 30. That's great. All right, let's wrap up here with the famous five. Number one, favorite business book. Uh, Blitzscaling by Reid Hoffman. Number two, is there a CEO you're following or studying? Reid Hoffman.
Number, uh, number three, what's your favorite online tool for building your company? Um, so easy answer would be Slack. Um, but I would go with, uh, eSuite. I think it's, uh, it's so powerful. As number four, how many hours of sleep do you get every night? Eight hours. Eight? Yeah. So you're 24 years old. I assume you're single, no kids? I'm actually not single. I'm living with a missus.
I'm not married, but we expect a kid to be married. Oh, that's super exciting. Okay, got it. So married and one kid on the way. That's extremely exciting. Sorry, not married, but one kid on the way. Yeah, yeah. You're going to have a lot of, you're going to have a startup baby and a real baby here soon. Yeah, I have. All right, last question. Take us back four years.
What do you wish you knew when you were 20? How not to fuck up a cap table. Did some really toxic rounds early on and had to fix that. Luckily I did, but learn the funding game from experts. Talk to somebody who's done it before. Sorry, I should have asked questions about that. I didn't know you went through a painful experience there.
What happened early on where you just, you wouldn't do it the same way again? We took in way too much dilution. When Metro Accelerator came around a couple of years in and wanted us on, we actually went to the selection day but got turned down because of our cap table in the end and had to fix that.
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