Sacred Changemakers

175. Frameshifting: It’s Not A Change Problem, It’s An Integration Problem With Kathryn Pope & Alan Arnett

11 Aug 2025

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Frameshifting: It’s Not A Change Problem, It’s An Integration Problem With Kathryn Pope & Alan ArnettIn this compelling episode, Jayne sits down with transformational coaches and thought partners Kathryn Pope and Alan Arnott to explore a radical reframe: what if the real challenge in leadership and organizational life isn’t change itself, but our ability to integrate?Together, Kathryn and Alan bring a powerful synergy to the conversation. Kathryn is a credentialed coach, supervisor, and resilience expert who works with senior leaders across FTSE 500 companies. Alan, a seasoned thinking partner with over three decades of experience helping global organizations like Microsoft, PwC, and BP navigate complexity and innovation.As co-creators of Resourceful Conversations™ and Frameshifting™, they challenge traditional change models and offer a more human, grounded approach, one that places relationships, energy, and meaning at the center of transformation. This episode is an invitation to move beyond surface-level solutions and into a deeper, more integrative way of leading and living.Whether you’re a coach, a team leader, or a changemaker inside a system that’s shifting, this conversation will leave you with fresh insight—and renewed energy for the road ahead. To learn more about Kathryn and Alan’s work, visit the links below, and if this episode sparked something in you, we’d love for you to share it with someone else navigating change. The integration begins with us.Key TakeawaysWhy change isn’t the real problem, and what integration has to do with lasting transformationThe power of Frameshifting™ to help leaders navigate complexity and make sense of what's really going onHow Resourceful Conversations™ re-energize teams and build connection in high-stakes environmentsThe difference between managing change and aligning people, relationships, and purposePersonal stories from Kathryn and Alan that illuminate the deeper human dynamics behind leadership growthPractical ways to begin working with integration; within yourself, your team, and your organizationEpisode Resources:Guest websites: www.beechurst.com and www.theexplorationhabit.comKathryn’s Linkedin Profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kathryn-pope-pcc-211181/Alan’s Linkedin Profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alanarnett/SacredChangemakers.comThank you to our sponsor:A huge thank you to our Resonance Collective members, podcast sponsors, and the extended Sacred Changemakers community, who help us make a global impact aligned with the United Nations Sustainable Development Goals.Support the PodcastIf you’ve enjoyed this episode, we’d love your support! Please rate, review, and subscribe on iTunes or your favorite podcast platform. Your feedback helps us reach more coaches and changemakers who are ready to create real impact.About Sacred ChangemakersSacred Changemakers is a movement for coaches who feel called to...

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175. Frameshifting: It’s Not A Change Problem, It’s An Integration Problem With Kathryn Pope & Alan Arnett

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13:00H | 21 DIC 2025 | Fin de Semana

10:00H | 21 DIC 2025 | Fin de Semana

12:00H | 20 DIC 2025 | Fin de Semana

2ª PARTE | 06 ENE 2026 | EL PARTIDAZO DE COPE

3ª PARTE | 22 ENE 2026 | EL PARTIDAZO DE COPE

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