Resilience, Manners and Emotional Regulation with Cara Zelas

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What is the main topic discussed in this episode?

Melissa Chan-Green 0:03
Hi and welcome to School Shorts with me Melissa Chan-Green, journalist and mum of two with a passion for education. Today we're talking a bit about social emotional skills with a sought after speaker on this topic, Kara Zelas. We're not just talking about these skills rather in isolation though, we're talking about How do you bring that in across an education system? Or as parents, how do you introduce those skills at home and equip students with those kinds of skills when we're living in a world that is so fast moving in the tech space? So we've spoken a lot in this podcast about AI and the potential benefits possibilities for that, the potential challenges. I guess this is looking a little bit about how do we balance that with real human-centred and student-centred education and skills.
Melissa Chan-Green 0:58
So here is Kara Zelis. Hi, Cara.

What social-emotional skills are essential for children?

Melissa Chan-Green 1:05
Thank you so much for being with us. I mentioned that you are a sought after speaker on this topic and you have been at South by Southwest at the education conference this year. I imagine AI was a bit of a topic of conversation there too. What did you learn from that? What kinds of things were coming through on that?
Cara Zelas 1:27
Yeah, there's a lot of discussion on AI. That was definitely at the forefront. Now there's a pullback. So it kind of is this juxtaposition of AI is coming, but now we see the research that phones and laptops may not be the best learning, outlead to the best learning outcomes. We know that phones affect things like concentration, attention span, causes social issues. And the laptop really can't replace, you know, writing. That important connection between writing something down and retaining facts and recall. And also I've heard from schools that children are losing the ability to write. So that aside, it was an interesting sort of juxtaposition.
Melissa Chan-Green 2:17
What are you seeing in terms of... the general feeling towards AI as an opportunity or a disruptor of the way we learn to think and to learn?
Cara Zelas 2:33
Yeah, I feel like that we need less more AI versus education and where can we use it when it's appropriate.

How can parents introduce resilience and manners at home?

Cara Zelas 2:44
So I see AI being very, very helpful in things like school administration and helping teachers with their workload, I can see that really being a positive effect and, you know, just being more proactive than ever to just try and keep learning human-focused first. I think that's what's really important.
Melissa Chan-Green 3:08
Yeah, and I think that's why I asked you because it's not really a – this is anti-AI, what we are discussing now, right? It's just saying, okay, so this is the case and this is what is happening in schools in terms of technology and how the way we teach and the tools that we have to teach are changing. What do we need to do to make sure we don't lose all of those amazing human-centered and relationship-focused skills and experiences in the classroom as well, right?
Cara Zelas 3:44
Yes, I think it's about keeping a balanced approach. So not being a Luddite and saying being anti-technology because that's not the future. And that's not the future our kids live in either. So it's like, how can we use it in an appropriate way that can enhance learning and not take away from learning?
Melissa Chan-Green 4:03
The Alpha Schools model is something that has been

What impact does technology have on children's learning?

Melissa Chan-Green 4:10
quite significant interest when it's been mentioned on School Shorts before. And for anybody who hasn't caught that previous episode, a very quick summary is that it's kind of online AI-centred learning where it's a few hours a day of the kind of academic skills and then the idea is that it allows you the time to um go off and do other skills that are perhaps i don't know physical or in your subject interest area through the rest of the day and because it is ai centered and tailored and individualized that that academic learning theoretically happens a lot quicker was this discussed at south by southwest and what is your take on that kind of model yeah i really get the appeal
Cara Zelas 5:04
And I think it's really exciting. It's like a new frontier. You know, many things in traditional education are just not working for a variety of reasons. And we see that in the test scores in Australia, in America, something in traditional education isn't working.

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