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"$1.2m for a winger!?" | All the news with Sam Edmund (25.06.26)

24 Jun 2026

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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?

0.031 - 11.612 Sam Edmund

Breakfast with Gary and Tim. A sports news update for The Butcher Club. The Butcher Club, for quality produce delivered with exceptional customer service. Simply not your average butcher shop.

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11.732 - 31.752 Tim Watson

It's the hour of power, I like to call it. Sam Edmund in now with all of your news, and he'll also partake in questions without notice. And then Corey Mobilio, I was saying for round 15, it's round 16, isn't it? How stupid I am. So he will be here to talk about tonight's game and a whole host of other stuff. Welcome to you, Sammy. It's going quickly, isn't it? Round 16.

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31.852 - 32.975 Sam Edmund

It's sliding through.

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Chapter 2: What updates are there on Geelong's coaching staff?

34.157 - 43.56 Sam Edmund

And I heard you talking about Geelong earlier, actually. Despite being two-thirds of the way through the season, it's pretty awesome that a coach can go over to the US and play some golf. And I don't think he was on his own either.

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43.78 - 58.438 Sam Edmund

And the Cats, I think they had some football staff decided they're going to go to Bali straight after the game in Perth, given what's that, maybe three and a half hours away from Perth? I think it's even closer. Whatever it might be. A lot closer from the west, clearly. So good on them. A little bit of sun and circuit breaking.

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58.418 - 66.128 Tim Watson

More so than ever before, the importance of welfare and keeping your employees fresh.

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66.289 - 83.892 Garry Lyon

You're a big us against them, John Northey type school type. Would you use it in any way saying, oh, look, the cats, look what they did during the break. This is how little interest they've been showing. They've been going off to Bali. The coach has been going off to America playing golf. They're not taking you seriously, boys.

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83.912 - 85.374 Tim Watson

I think we've moved on. on from there.

85.394 - 89.1 Sam Edmund

I think we all understand the need to... So that's Brisbane in round 17 then.

89.14 - 106.505 Garry Lyon

You reckon Fags would get up the lines and say that they've come into... Well, if I was Fags, I'd actually get onto AI and I'd try to digitally enhance some vision and say, look, this is what the Geelong coach was doing during the break. He's there just sort of striking the golf ball there off the tee. You don't need digitally enhanced. I think that's exactly what he was doing.

106.965 - 109.149 Garry Lyon

Well, no, but you'd need to be there to actually record it.

109.169 - 109.81 Sam Edmund

You need the visual.

Chapter 3: How are player welfare and training sessions being addressed?

204.539 - 206.684 Garry Lyon

Do you think this is an overreach?

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207.265 - 214.781 Tim Watson

No, it's with an eye to the legalese and the litigiousness of society.

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214.801 - 220.894 Sam Edmund

We're actually slow, though. The NFL have done this. The NRL this year made their changes as well.

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220.874 - 227.388 Garry Lyon

How deeply have they gone in the NFL with all this? I know they don't do the practices they did once.

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227.528 - 244.621 Sam Edmund

I don't have the exact breakdown, but I know that the NRL this year, no more than 115 minutes per week. So in-season and pre-season training sessions. So no more than 35 minutes of high-intensity contact. So how many hours in pre-season and in-season this AFL working group settle on will be interesting.

244.662 - 253.336 Sam Edmund

I mean, how it's policed, the different levels of contact from match practice, then you have your small-sided games, simple drills, one-on-one stuff, how it's designed, everything.

254.318 - 260.348 Garry Lyon

I think we all know why we're doing this, but you just wonder what the game is going to look like in, say, 50 years' time, don't you?

260.328 - 279.197 Sam Edmund

And then you've got a young player coming in. Well, you've got to prepare this young player to win a one-on-one against Patrick Dangerfield. So clubs will be thinking, well, how do we get these guys up to speed if we're limited in the exposure we can give them? And then, look, maybe some are suggesting that in reality there might not be much change. It sounds worse than what it is, Bulls.

279.177 - 295.418 Tim Watson

This is the NFL Collective Bargaining Agreement. During the regular season, teams are allowed a maximum of 14 padded practices, which I assume is contact, over the 18-week schedule. So they're only allowed 14 padded practices.

Chapter 4: What restrictions are being discussed regarding contact training in the AFL?

449.05 - 453.356 Garry Lyon

Right. Okay. The coaching searches, there's a number of them out there at the moment.

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453.376 - 471.136 Sam Edmund

Yeah. Carlton. What can you tell us? Essendon. Tassie. So interesting in their own ways, aren't they? So Carlton haven't – I don't know if they've paused things or not – They're very steady as she goes down there at the Blues, and they're in no hurry. And I'm sure you don't want to upset the apple cart while Josh Fraser, their caretaker, has just got things absolutely humming along either.

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471.156 - 485.169 Sam Edmund

Do you really want to get into the thick of interviews while who the next coach is going to be while Josh Fraser's on a five-game winning streak? So for now, the club's currently calling various football bosses around the comp as a courtesy, which Chris Davies has admitted. We'll be having a chat to this guy and that guy, just so you know.

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485.77 - 489.493 Sam Edmund

And a lot of those names, the established assistant coaching sector, so that...

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489.473 - 503.805 Garry Lyon

What if, though, on that point about you don't want to upset the apple cart, what if there are your clubs out there at the moment and they're talking to player managers and that prospective recruit that you've targeted says, okay, well, I'm not going to make my decision on going to your club until I find out who's coaching you.

504.166 - 506.892 Garry Lyon

There will be people sitting back just waiting to see what happens here.

506.872 - 507.092 Sam Edmund

Yeah.

507.473 - 508.554 Garry Lyon

And it will influence their decisions.

508.574 - 517.908 Sam Edmund

And Chris Davies did say that, I think, with Kane and Kingy during the week, is that it's very different for him having to pitch to players without having a coach, which he's obviously had Ken Inkley for so, so long.

Chapter 5: What are the implications of the AFL's concussion risk recommendations?

603.645 - 612.563 Sam Edmund

Essendon people, if you like. So maybe that's why they're not rushed to the market. But the facts with Essendon, as they sit now, is that the club has said nothing in the formal sense.

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612.543 - 637.048 Sam Edmund

privately there's still the full expectation that a criteria and a panel will be assembled is being assembled that's being finalized now so but out of the other side of that and when they release their statement about what they're looking for in a coach broadly and what their selection panel is exactly how thorough that coach search process is is going to be no one can say at this stage and will be really really interesting indeed indeed when will we know

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637.653 - 648.764 Sam Edmund

Well, we thought this week that the only thing they've said publicly was after the bye. So it could be this week, could be next week, could be tomorrow. I'm told they're still finalising it and they won't give a timeline at the moment.

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649.044 - 660.055 Garry Lyon

I was with Herdy yesterday and I can say this categorically that he would love to be the Essendon coach, but he does not know at this stage when and if there will be an interview in process.

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660.136 - 664.32 Sam Edmund

Yeah. No one does apart from the board and maybe a handful of people at Essendon.

664.34 - 679.068 Tim Watson

Kevin Sheedy... who's a vocal and big presence, says that he's outraged that they haven't at least reached out to James Heard and spoken to him. Either just to say, look, just understand we're going to take a few.

679.508 - 680.971 Sam Edmund

But they haven't done that to anyone yet.

681.492 - 686.442 Tim Watson

Yeah. Well, okay, then Kevin should understand. And then that's just the way they're going about it.

686.422 - 696.736 Sam Edmund

I mean, I think he's just being treated like everyone else at the moment, and that is that they're getting their house in order in their own time, and then they'll get to it. I know you had Lenny Hayes on recently and asked him about Darcy Wilson, the out-of-contract youngster.

Chapter 6: What impact will the new training regulations have on player performance?

851.729 - 873.324 Sam Edmund

Sean Darcy has played a few games for Peel, has been among their best in that time regularly in the Waffles, got a contract until 2030, can't play any other position. So how much ruck time would he play if they bring him back? 40%, 30%? You'd be loathe, you'd be flat refusing to take any more minutes off Luke Jackson than you have to, and you have been at the moment.

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873.344 - 875.728 Sam Edmund

So what do they do with Sean Darcy?

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875.708 - 895.374 Garry Lyon

I'll give you the Kevin shooting method of solving these selection dilemmas. And that is on a Thursday night, you pair everybody off and then you kick the ball out there and you say, compete for it. Fight. And you hope that somebody gets injured and that solves one of your problems about selection. So you say, Mason, come over here. Sean, come over here. Fight to the death.

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895.394 - 898.678 Garry Lyon

You kick the ball out there about 50 metres away and you just let them fight for it.

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898.698 - 902.563 Tim Watson

The most important thing is that he's been cast as Little John in our AFL Robin Hood.

902.583 - 903.825 Sam Edmund

I heard that earlier. Yeah. Yeah.

903.805 - 904.968 Tim Watson

That's a big moment for him.

904.988 - 921.048 Sam Edmund

Well, so if things don't work out... He's got an acting career waiting for him. That's a bit like Chris Connolly. Remember when he said Aaron Sanderlands, he was approached to be an extra on Star Wars when they filmed it in Australia? Did he? That they were so struck by the size of Aaron Sanderlands, they wanted him to be some sort of Wookiee or something.

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Wookiee?

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