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First Thoughts - Round 15 (22.06.26)

21 Jun 2026

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Chapter 1: What are the first thoughts on Round 15 of the AFL?

0.031 - 27.766 David King

Kane and Kingy. Thanks for joining us on Fireball Text Machine going absolutely crazy. We appreciate that. Apologies if we don't get through all of those. We'll sort out balls for ballers a little bit later on as well after two unsuccessful attempts this morning. Kingy's onto that one. Our first thoughts of a host pass named Best Superfund by Money Maggot Zine. Round 15 has been run and won.

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27.866 - 29.869 David King

Kingy, where are your first thoughts this morning? Just

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29.849 - 50.738 Nacho Ares

I just want to back over the little podcast. Good on you, David. Sounds like you're threatened by these new age guys, 757. I love them. We go on them. We help them out, mate. We actually do love them. We actually give them a lot of time. So it was a bit of a laugh with Kane's chat last week. So just chill for a fraction. Chill out. Chill out. Hey, can I raise a topic?

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50.938 - 62.623 Nacho Ares

How many players in our competition are untaggable? I'm calling them the untouchables. I think Luke Jackson could be the most untaggable player in the competition.

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63.985 - 66.39 David King

I think you need to try before we label them.

66.41 - 81.479 Nacho Ares

Who could tag him? Who could tag him, though? This is the question. You need size to be able to be competent in the ruck, and then you need to be able to go with him around the ground after. I understand everyone says, oh, well, Blitzov's going to do that. I'm not sure he can do it in the ruck.

81.499 - 100.66 David King

Blixarves can't. And Blixarves is 35 years of age. Blixarves maybe eight years ago might have been able to run around the ground with him when he was the steeplechasing freak, but he's not that anymore. Mark Blixarves is nearly, you know, he's closer to 40 than he is 30. So I hear that, and I can understand why Chris Scott didn't go down that way.

100.84 - 110.874 David King

Yeah, it would be difficult to come up with a suitable matchup for... Luke Jackson. But I'd like to see someone try something, and that will come in the next five or six weeks.

110.895 - 130.648 Nacho Ares

We'll have a look at something. Someone will throw up a curveball for us. We see Bont do what he did yesterday, and we've talked about him being almost... I felt sorry for Garcia yesterday when he swooped on that ball. Garcia was a metre off his backside. And it was over in a heartbeat. I thought, oh, that can happen. You just sometimes get knocked off by brilliance.

Chapter 2: Who are the untouchable players in the AFL right now?

139.221 - 164.785 David King

Yes. Well, I had this on the rundown, as you can see there at number four. Cozzy couldn't have been less interested on Saturday. And it had me thinking about Nick Dacos, who for whatever reason, I read some stuff during the week, just sort of comes across your subconscious. So there was sort of a little bit of criticism over Nick. This is the beauty of Nick Dacos, is that...

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164.765 - 187.226 David King

does he ever play bad? Does he ever play bad? Can you ever question his effort or his consistency? And I thought that if Cozzy wants to be, and we've spoken about Cozzy at stages and rightly so this year as a top 10 player, some may have him top five, but this is the difference. Like Cozzy didn't, But to someone who didn't want to be there on the weekend, there was kicks off the ground.

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187.246 - 205.784 David King

There was undisciplined free kicks. His shorts looked like they were hanging around his ankles at times. It just wasn't a professional performance at all from Cozzy. And it wasn't a hard tag. Peetling went to him, but it wasn't. He wasn't. He was trying to win his own football as well as he does. And then I see Nick do what Nick does every single week.

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205.804 - 227.672 David King

Can we never ever criticize Nick Dacos again? He's at that level where you can observe some things in his game that you're watching, but you can never question his efforts. So that's the challenge for Cosi. If he wants to be regarded as the best, you can't serve that up on a Saturday. Perfect conditions against a team that you need to win away from home with a week off coming. and serve that up.

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227.712 - 228.953 David King

So I think it's a good point you raise.

230.014 - 251.218 Nacho Ares

If you get a chance, I know it was a long day Saturday, but if you get a chance at the end of Craig McRae coming out of chat, and he was as honest as he could be, and I asked him, how does he specifically coach Nick Dacos? He's the complete package. What are you talking about? And he went into a discussion for about 30 seconds about how he wants him to kick the footy.

251.198 - 273.162 Nacho Ares

And breaking down the opposition defence, the way they want to hold position, how we strategise about getting that and talk about that in game. I haven't heard a coach talk like that before. It's actually a really interesting discussion. If you get a chance, go and have a look at it, Cornish. I know you'll enjoy it. There's more goes on than just, you know, we talk about his kicking efficiency.

273.602 - 285.038 Nacho Ares

Sometimes he's asked to bite off a lot. Josh and Nick are asked to bite off more, and it's going to hurt their numbers. But they don't care about that. It's about winning games of footy.

285.579 - 306.838 David King

Enormous 40-1 again on Saturday night against a pretty weak opposition, but he just does it every week. Hey, where's Naz's best position is going to be a talking point this year. I know you touched on it on first crack, but... Do we want him winning 31 disposals in the back half of the ground? Luke Beveridge was interesting on Naz last night in his post-match press conference.

Chapter 3: What position should Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera play?

971.781 - 973.584 Nacho Ares

Terrible move. Terrible.

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974.025 - 986.182 David King

Yep. Imagine if they gave up three first-round picks and a million dollars for Merritt, the way he's playing at the moment. When you've just gone 32-0 from centre-bounce, you've got Will Day back in there and Ward and McKenzie are looking pretty good.

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986.403 - 989.367 Nacho Ares

Yeah, wait till... Don't judge them against the All-Star ranks.

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989.447 - 992.311 David King

Yeah, but Merritt's not going to help in that aspect.

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992.331 - 999.861 Nacho Ares

100%. Quality players help you regardless. Talk to me prelim weekend when you say, well, you know what, they...

999.841 - 1011.049 David King

You know what, though? One midfielder shy. No, but that's not him. That's not Merritt. I get the point if you're going to give me Toby Green who can go in there and impact centre-bounce or Bailey Humphrey who can do that. Not Merritt.

1011.873 - 1019.829 Nacho Ares

Yeah, you judge Merritt at his unhappiest phase. If you get him out of there, happy footballers play some pretty bloody good footy.

1020.19 - 1025.721 David King

Okay, all right. We'll follow that one with interest. Just be nice if you said something positive about Hawthorne for once.

1025.821 - 1026.343 Nacho Ares

I have.

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