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Chapter 1: What is discussed at the start of this section?
Breakfast with Gary and Tim.
Good morning. Welcome. Thursday, 25th day of June. My cafe menu is nicely loaded up. Corsa from Champion Data. George Samios. Troy Little, an update on our Greyhound. Questions without notice. And at 7 o'clock, Scott Miller, former Olympic silver medalist and massive... sporting presence in this country, not that long ago, who found himself in jail for a five-year period.
He's done a documentary. It's called The Deep End. The first episode aired on the ABC Monday, the second is on this Monday, and Tim and I spoke to him yesterday, and, phew, by jingos, you need to have a listen to this. It's out at seven o'clock. Very honest. Very, very raw. This was welcome to you. Good morning, Gary. Good morning, everybody. A hundred percent. A hundred percent. No jokes.
All seriousness right now. Stop what you're doing after seven o'clock. I do want to oversell this because stop what you're doing after 7 o'clock this morning and make sure you listen to this interview because he's very ā it's raw. He's honest about where he's been. Right now, he's in a great place. Hasn't always been the case since he finished his ā Swimming career, but you did a great job.
You asked some excellent questions yesterday. Some of the answers for people maybe who are struggling with similar challenges, whether it be addiction or whatever the case is, some of his answers for me anyway just made so much sense.
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Chapter 2: What is the significance of Scott Miller's story?
Yes. Anyway, have a listen. It comes up at 7 o'clock. Yeah, we can't ā let's not unpack it before we pack it. We need to play it first. But there's a lot of things to talk about post that interview. I thought a lot about it yesterday when I was out and about, about things that he had to say and the way that he approached things and, you know, that whole thing.
I'll say one thing about this, okay? The discipline of life, having a routine ā And you know where it took me? After he spoke about the routine that he had as a sports person and then how he missed that post his sporting career. And it made me think about AI and what's going to happen in the world and how important it is.
You know, people are right now, they're listening in their car, they're getting up, they get up at the same time every morning, they go, they put their... Kettle on, they make their, whatever it is, you've got a routine. And it's so important to the rhythm of our lives to have that routine. Yeah. And then to have work to go to. And anyway, that's a very serious topic.
Which is one of the challenges, well, this is in getting, discussed with Scott, but the whole work from home thing, right? Yes. So I think it's got a role to play, but in terms of trying to maintain your rhythm and your work life.
And your connection to people.
And your connection to people, yeah. Anyway, that's coming up out of seven o'clock. Yeah, but try and listen. Make sure you listen. And if, you know, you've got a son or a daughter or you've got somebody, a young person, whatever it might be in your life or whatever, it is... There's something... I think there's something in it for everybody. Yeah. And the Who is Scott Miller.
And he's also been part of a documentary. It's a two-part documentary and it's been airing on the ABC. It's called On the Deep End. And I think... Yeah, he was an Olympic, if you don't know the story, he was an Olympic silver medalist. He was the best looking man about town. He had everything at his feet. He could have been anything.
And he went down the drug path, got an addiction, started dealing drugs and found himself in jail for five years. It is an interesting story. Interesting story. Hey, did you have a sporty yesterday? How'd you go? Your lunch, the one you bumped me for. Yes. Yeah, we'll talk about that a little bit later when George joins us. Met some lovely people, though. Lovely people.
There were a lot of publicans and people in the wine and beer industry from across Australia there yesterday. I've never been there before. St. Hubert's Winery. Have you been out there? No. Gee, it's magnificent. What is it, in the Yarra Valley? In the Yarra Valley, yeah. How far? How long did it take? It's a good trip. How long? It's a good trip. Wow.
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Chapter 3: How does routine impact recovery from addiction?
Every weekend he would do that. And I know that he did follow, like he followed his football closely because I remember him being in the rooms when Hurdy first came down and started playing. But there's people like that in your lives who just support people. They're just there. Well, when it's family, it's- it's not conditional, of course.
You don't have to do it because you're family, but that tie and link's there. What's the furthest you've travelled to go and support your kid is play a game of sport because a one-off six-and-a-half-hour trip's no problem, but if he's doing it every week, I'd take my hat off to that. That's unbelievable.
And you would know in your own family, like your sisters, how they supported their children when they played sport. I don't either. Like my parents when I was growing up and our dad was always one of the ā Parents in Dimble that would be one of the drivers when we'd meet down at the milk bar to pick up all the kids to go to the footy on a Saturday morning.
He was always, always one of the parents. We're lucky to have had supportive parents in our lives. Too right we are. Too right we are. No problem about that at all. Hey, Saturday morning, there's not many times I make an appointment, a viewing appointment. Last week I did for the Aussies, although I was up anyway. 5 a.m. France play Norway in the World Cup. So Mbappe versus Haaland.
How good is that going to be? Magnificent. I'm excited about that. You've really warmed to old Buster, haven't you? I have. Yeah, I like him. I did a bit more deep diving. I know. Nice fella. I know. Very nice fella. Goes out and buys his food from the local lady. Doesn't go to the big supermarket. And then bought the whole crew some honey. Yes. Have you seen that? Yeah, I've seen that too.
That is going to be a game. France are our red-hot favourites, aren't they, or not? Yes. Yes, they are. Yeah, they are. They are Red Hole favourites. So you've got, how do you pronounce it? Mbope? Mbope. Mbope. Mbope. Mbope. Mbope. Mbope. Mbope. Mbope. Mbope. Mbope. Mbope. Mbope. Mbope. Mbope. Mbope. Mbope. Mbope. Mbope. Mbope. Mbope. Mbope. Mbope. Mbope. Mbope. Mbope. Mbope. Mbope. Mbope.
And I was told somebody yesterday, whoever you were out there, thank you, because they sent a text message in yesterday saying, Tim, make sure you have a listen to the Stick to Football podcast with Gary Neville, Roy Keane, Ian Wright, and their special guest, Tom Brady. That was recommended yesterday on the show. Yes. I skipped in here this morning, didn't I?
How pumped up was I when I got here this morning, if you don't- Normally, I don't like to have anyone talk for the first 40 minutes. I know you don't. But you didn't even shut up. I couldn't. I couldn't. You didn't shut up when you got in here. I was so taken- You had a headache. I know. I was so taken by what Tom Brady was talking. It was fantastic. It was- What was it about?
I know what it was about.
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Chapter 4: What role does support play in overcoming personal challenges?
In what way? He's a local St. Kevin's boy, wasn't he? Just a knockabout... He started in Queensland. Of his footy? No, he started in Queensland and ended up down in Victoria after that. What was I going to say? We're waiting for updates, Stevie, on Johnny's back surgery. So they said just to give him a little bit of time and we'll be checking in today.
Well, someone will give you an update anyway. So he's had the surgery now. We're just waiting for it to be all clear. Clarkson's Farm, nearly finished Clarkson's Farm. Nearly finished it. Nearly finished it. I've got one little bit to go. Hannah, the ornithologist, the enthusiasm and the passion for birds. It was Dermot Burton-like, the enthusiasm she brought to that. Wasn't she fantastic?
Wasn't she a fantastic addition to Clarkson's film? I loved her. Yeah. I mean, I like birds. I'm not in the Dermot category. Dermot is a serious bird watcher. He is. But I like birds. And she just bounced in there and she lit the screen up. That's called presence. That's called television presence. 100%.
Some people can be on television their whole life and as soon as they're gone, you forget about them. Yeah. But she sort of wandered in and went bingo, bango. She could tell what sort of birds were chirping in the background. Just, oh, there's a stunned wren. It's a nice little finch. I can hear a finch and a wren arguing with each other. I've had man love for Jim. Mind you, can I say this?
Mind you, she could have said anything. As if Jeremy's going to go, that's not a yellow-breasted fin. Yeah, but he had the phone out. He had the bird app out, and she was identifying the bird before the phone could identify the bird. But then I've had some man love for Jeremy Clarkson, but I didn't like this. Okay, so this is him putting out a little IG yesterday. Have a listen.
I had two tickets from them, and then it's raining. So I thought, I don't want to be outside, so I'll give them away and I'll go in a posh box. And I found these chaps. That's Gary, that's Derry. And they didn't have any tickets for the match. And now, we've got one. Put on a piece. Very appreciative. Trying all morning for him. Yeah. Thank you very much. Absolute pleasure.
Enjoy the match, chaps. Thank you. Cheers. That's big noting yourself, that is. What didn't you like about it? Well, I didn't like the fact that Jeremy Clarkson is over there covering it for the Sun, right? So he gets free tickets to go to the World Cup game that England are playing in. And then he decides to film himself giving the tickets away to a couple of people to pump himself up. I don't...
You grizzled old codger. That's the new age. No, it's not, Gary. Social media. There are so many things you can put out on social media, but you don't have to big note yourself and give away some free tickets that you've been given. All right, let's put some parameters around social media. No one in social media can big note themselves. That ends social media right there.
That is what it's about. No, it's not. Look at me with my new handbag. Look at me having new tips in my hair.
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Chapter 5: What key messages resonate with listeners in this segment?
But what part ā I think we both did the same thing. And I'll read this message out because this is, I know what you're going to ask, what resonated most. So this is from Jordan. He says, I love the interview. I'm driving to work. I'm in a new role. I've got no structure and routine. I felt very out of sorts.
Scotty's message resonated and made me focus on what I can control and not be tempted to fall into bad habits.
Chapter 6: How does routine impact personal and professional life?
I asked him the question, what was important? And he didn't, before I'd even finished answering, he just said routine. Yeah, routine. So he led such a structured, almost institutionalized life as a swimmer. And you know how hard they train. And you be here at 4.30. Yes. And this is what you're doing for the next hour and a half. And there's a goal there for you the whole time too.
There's a real purpose in what you're doing.
Chapter 7: What challenges do athletes face after their careers end?
Yep. And then that's taken away from you or you finish, which everybody's career does. And that's the unfortunate thing that a lot of those athletes, their career finishes very early in the piece. So they still may not have the life experience or they don't. They don't have the maturity. They go out there and then the big wide world just swallows them up. That's right. That's right.
It's a challenge when that gets taken away and you've got nothing. When I say nothing, you haven't got that same routine.
Chapter 8: How is the documentary 'The Deep End' relevant to current discussions?
So it's well done to Jam TV to put that together, this documentary, The Deep End. Part one available on ABC iView if you've missed it. Part two will be on Monday on the ABC as well. And it'll be a pretty good opportunity to sit down with your kids if you've got young teenagers and sit down and watch this. It could be the most... Well, one of the more important things you do. Who knows?
And it didn't happen for him overnight. It didn't happen for him straight away. What did he say? He was in jail for like 18 months before he really started to work it all out again and then just sort of sorted it out in his own mind as to what he needed to do and how he needed to go forward. Yep. Restarted, started, restarted.
Gavin Krasicka is another great story of redemption who works now at the Collingwood Footy Club and speaks openly about his battles and struggles with addiction as well as a cautionary tale. So good on him. I enjoyed the interview, and I loved how honest and raw he was. And Dino, did Scott say he's at home with his mum and dad? Yeah, he did. He's back there living. Good for him, boys.
But talk to someone who doesn't have a mum and dad to go back to when life kicks you down. It takes 10 times the work to get your life right where you're the only one you have. Dino. If that's you, then I sympathize with you because that is so much more difficult and harder than it is for somebody that still has their parents there in the background supporting them.
I would understand that 100 percent. No, a thousand percent. We shouldn't begrudge Scott. the comfort of going home to his mum and dad because mums and dads play probably the most important role of all of this. Of course they do. And Dino, of course we have empathy for those that don't have that settled and structured sort of parental support there.
But for those that do, how important is it that when you get hearing his voice, we said, how are you tracking? He goes, how am I tracking? I'm living with mum and dad. They're about to make me a coffee. I mean, just to have that is so critical. It is. It really is. It really is. So a lot of text messages still coming through. Gary, a lot of people enjoyed it.
A lot of people have a view about him and about redemption and stories and stuff like that. But I think those stories are really well worth being told. And I think he told it in a really raw and honest way too. Righto, we're coming up to 7.30 news. We'll take some headlines. Georgie Samios is here just for a little bit of wine chat. So get your questions. 0403391116.
Tim and James Heard with a headline act yesterday at a lunch that was organised by Georgie in the Yarra Valley. I think he taped it too. I think he wants to play the tape from the interview yesterday. I'll be asking him whether there's... Anything that would be of interest to all the news hounds out there? Someone said they heard he talked last night as well. Was he going somewhere else?
He gave a little double up. No, I didn't know that he was going somewhere else. He certainly didn't say that to me when he left. He might have wanted to tell you, Whisper. That's true. And we've got Sam Edmund coming in out of eight. So all of the news questions without notice. And then we'll set you up for round 15, if you don't mind, when Corey Mobilio comes in to join us from Champion Dutter.
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