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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
I'll tell you where I want to start.
Chapter 2: What sparked the conversation about umpiring criticism?
I want to start on your program last night because there's a very interesting conversation. Gerard has been pushing the idea that maybe because of the quality of umpiring, we could be reducing the four umpires down to three. This was Razor Ray's response last night on 360.
So you take 10, you total them back, and we go back to three umpires.
Chapter 3: What are the implications of reducing umpires from four to three?
Just be aware that what you're saying is the eight of the top 12 umpires that currently hold that list together and have done for 20 years, they're gone. They're gone, Gerard. They can't umpire a three umpire system. It is exponentially, physically harder than a four. It busts you. They are 50 years of age, those blokes. They can't umpire a three. So you're gonna get rid of 10,
Chapter 4: How does Razor Ray respond to the suggestion of fewer umpires?
Eight are going to fall over. They're out. You've got to go back to the best eight that you had that you said weren't good enough. You're going to bring them back in. They're going to umpire in a three umpire system where they've got to now make 25% more free kicks because there's not four of them out there now. There's only three.
They're physically in a worse position than what they are in the four. They're knackered. They're making more decisions from poorer positions that you're saying they can't make those decisions now. So reverting back to the three isn't the answer.
That was a strong response from Ray last night. Now, I was thinking along the same lines as Jerry. Yeah, let's just go back to three umpires. But what he's saying there is you can't do that because it would wipe out the best, most senior umpires that we currently have in the system out. They wouldn't be able to. You responded and said, well, hang on.
Why can't you just have one in the front 50, one in the back 50, and one in the middle of the ground? And Ray said, there's no way known, given the way the game's played now, that umpires could position themselves correctly. Is there another way that we could orchestrate the umpires out there then?
Well, we ran out of time. I would have challenged, not challenged him, but... I would have asked some questions about that and whether or not umpires are ā like it's so ā they're so pedantic.
What do you mean by pedantic, though, in their positioning?
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Chapter 5: What challenges do umpires face in a three-umpire system?
Yes, there's four of them. So he's got to cut in here. She's got to drop in behind. You've got to make sure you're on this side. You've got to make sure ā all for good reason. I've had these chats with Ray. It makes sense. But maybe we're just looking for too much there. In the end, if you said, listen ā If they change their running patterns, you mean? Yeah, and this is very simplistic. Yes.
Very simplistic. You look after your forward 50, you look after the D50, you look after the middle. How would that go? Would you be able to officiate through the middle of the ground if the ball was in your area, and then once it crossed into the D or the forward 50, just hand over?
Yeah. He's saying no. No, I know. And he's been out there and he knows what the physical requirements are. You and I both think the same thing. If you did position yourself in a certain way within those three zones, why isn't it that you wouldn't be able to get a good view of what was taking place?
I promise you, Ray, you'd have a great answer, haven't you?
I'm sure he would. And we have to listen to him because he's the one that's been out there and he's the one that understands intimately what is taking place there and the requirements, as I said before, and how it would mean that it would usher, what did you say, eight or nine? Eight or ten. Ten of the best ones. Ten of the best umpires that we currently have in the system out of the game.
I have challenged him before, though, when we've looked at stuff and he's gone now the umpire position here. And I have said to him many times, Ray, there's four of them. How can you meet? Oh, because he's offside on this side and he's over that. Well, maybe we've been too pedantic. Maybe we are. Maybe we're that concentrating on where you need to be inside, outside, all that sort of stuff.
With AI, if you fed this into- He's probably driving off the road, Ray.
If you fed this into AI in terms about the running patterns, so on a circular oval, where would you need to best position yourself so that you were able to adjudicate decisions? And I'm not being silly when I say this.
Maybe there's some eyewear, and I'm not talking about them carrying binoculars when they umpire, but maybe there's a way that they could fit some form of eyewear to them that would give them a better picture of An exaggerated picture of what's taking place. Is that a stupid suggestion? Probably.
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Chapter 6: What alternative umpiring positions were proposed?
We've gone to four umpires and now... Gerard has raised rightly that there's not enough quality for four umpires. We saw some decision make on the weekend, which again, we don't want to hammer these umpires, but it did look like there was a few off the pace. So what is the solution?
And the other part to that is I think I'm just trying to remember how many umpiring coaches, teachers there were to 200 and something umpires out there. But that doesn't appear to be that there's enough resources that are actually put into this bucket either to solve the problem.
I read something, I can't remember which paper I read this in, but one of our really celebrated umpires said the same thing. We've got to commit, tip more money in and give them more support.
Ben out there, he said, look, look, I do a better job. He's saying I could do a better job umpiring off the TV screen than the people there. Why don't, is there some solution in all that too? Yeah. I'm not trying to be silly here, but you are saying we need to come up with solutions and maybe we need to look at all these different things.
Well, I know, but how many we've been doing, we've been playing and commentating and talking about footy, I have since 1984. And the one constant that never changes is umpires and the criticism of them. And that hasn't changed him. We've gone from one to two to three to four. We've gone to four boundary umpires. We've gone to the arc. We've gone to this.
And the one consistent, this is why I get a bit, not frustrated. It's just the same conversation over and over and over. What is the solution?
Yeah. But do you think in this modern world, of AI and technology, do you think there's going to be a solution that appears over the next five to 10 years that's going to help us in this particular area so we get more accuracy?
No, because of our game is so black and white and it's interpretive. That is why. And we're always going to have, and we can only just, we can only strive to get more consistency. We're never going to get perfection in this, are we?
No, well, I don't ā given you say black and white, I think there's sort of like a grey area of all our rules.
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Chapter 7: How can technology improve umpiring decisions?
Yeah. Well, to be honest, I do a lot of football coaching and playing and like footy to me, umpiring, there's bad decisions and I'm kind of used to it. It's a tough game to umpire. But I was thinking of one thing with the arc. How about we have maybe five umpires on a panel somewhere and they've got access to eight live cameras and they've got a button and it says...
Free kick on the button or no free kick. And there's like a three-second window. So if something happens and three of them click the button and two don'ts, a message gets sent to the on-field umpire, there's been a free kick paid. And then that umpire can sort of adjudicate. But that way you can use the live footage. And I agree with the other caller.
It's funny, you can see it on TV clear as day, but sometimes the umpires on the field can't.
Gary, thumbs up or thumbs down for Christian's solution?
I appreciate Christian's input, but not for me, that suggestion. That could just take forever. But I like the lateral thinking. We've got to take a break. It's 19 minutes past 7 o'clock. Tom Green from the GWS Giants is going to join us. Andrew Russell's got Wellness Wednesday coming up. I don't know.
A lot of people, no, a lot of people believe that they have the solution. That's right. They're coming through loud and clear on the temper text this morning. I have the solution to all of this. All right. I may have to run.
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