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"Nothing seemed to change." | First Thoughts - Hawthorn vs Bulldogs (08.06.26)
07 Jun 2026
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Chapter 1: What were the key moments in the Hawthorn vs Bulldogs game?
Now, are you still considering your man a genius? Yes.
Still? Yes.
You don't want to revisit it at all? Nope, nope, nope.
With a loaded question, what do you want to say? If you've got something to say, say it. Well, I will.
Thank you for the opportunity.
If they kick accurately, they win that game by 19 points. If they kick accurately and they don't kick one goal 11 and miss four all together and Lloyd Meek can actually hit his foot from 30 metres out directly in front, they win by 20 points and we're not having this discussion. Now, what do you want to say?
If she had whiskers, she'd be my uncle.
Do you think it's reasonable for Lloyd Meek to actually score from 15 metres out on a slight angle twice?
Do you think that if the full forward position that Gunston plays so well and they set the game up for that role, whether it's Hardwick or Gunston, if that's taken away, can they still win it?
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Chapter 2: How did inaccurate kicking affect the game's outcome?
Yeah, I think they would love, you know, Mitch Lewis to stand up like he has done pretty well and be that contested marking option, which is a point of difference. And Marbiel looked dangerous at times. So I think there's options down there and their smalls are dangerous.
I think the way the Dogs took away their uncontested marks in the second half... slowed the game down, which meant the ball didn't track with any speed to that full forward position. And I think that's a guide, a template now for teams to say, right, this is how we can get it. And nothing seemed to change with that.
They were predictable, particularly late going inside. It was very high bomb sort of stuff.
We saw Savage Sam in the box again, by the way.
Yeah, we asked him about that on Friday. Savage Sam's back.
Yep.
He said just a fraction angry. Yes. Savage Sam. I'll review that. So you're still full book, still rolling on? Oh, no. I was always like, are they in my seedings? Are they in your seedings?
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Chapter 3: What strategies did the Bulldogs use to counter Hawthorn's offense?
I think they're fifth. They're out. Yeah, I think. Hang on a minute. But then who's the fourth? The fourth spot is up for grabs. The fourth spot in the seedings is up for grabs. It could be one of, you could make a case for Brisbane there today.
You make whatever case you like.
Yeah, I'm just saying.
Chapter 4: Can Hawthorn still win without their key full forward players?
Can we do the seedings today?
No one's coming in. We don't get any feedback from anybody.
We can own the seedings today. Absolutely. They're your seedings. Well, that was my idea originally, yeah. Same with PFI, but I like that. So the fourth position is very much up for grabs. Fourth position? Yeah. Fremantle, Sydney. Even the third and fourth position is debatable. Anyway, we'll get to that a bit later. Are you shifting on Adelaide? No. Okay. No. That was quick.
No, Adelaide, it was an admirable performance, but they don't have enough weapons to be winning the premiership this year. Can I ask you about Jake Waterman? This is a bit left field. Do you like, did you like him showing the amount of visible frustration that he showed at himself on Saturday night? So he drops the one in the golf square, absolute soda, pudding, drops it.
Then he marks it at 30 seconds later and he smacks, Mashes the ball on the ground. He's so angry at himself. He kicks the goal, shakes his head. And then he fumbled one in the last quarter and he's rubbing it. I've never seen a player as angry and frustrated at themselves. And I was trying to work out. I personally, I think I like it. I think I like that it means that much to him.
But then the counter view to that is, as a leader, one of the very few senior players that they've got, is that a great example to be showing that level of frustration at yourself in crunch time for the younger teammates around you? Really interesting test case, that one, on Saturday night for me. If he didn't do that, would we say, does it mean enough? Yeah, well, you may. He can't win.
Or could you say, you know, he's pretty good at sort of brushing it off and focusing on the next contest, which we're all taught to do, which is much easier said than done. So I'm with you. I think if I was doing a blame, a will of blame like I can do on the agenda setters, I think 80% I like.
I don't think we'll see the wheel of blame too much.
We'll definitely be seeing the wheel of blame.
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