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Should Essendon interview Josh Fraser? (23.06.26)

22 Jun 2026

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Chapter 1: What prompted the discussion about Josh Fraser as a potential coach for Essendon?

0.031 - 23.322 Tim Watson

Hey, I've got a question here, a little question about notice. You sent me, or someone sent me, I don't know if it was you, sent me this message. Wouldn't have been me. That Mark Harvey floated. Oh, this one, at the luncheon on Friday. It was at a lunch, and he said, he suggests that Essendon should appoint two coaches, and that in his opinion, halves, the role is too much for one person.

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23.302 - 33.219 Tim Watson

Now, I love left field thinking. Yeah, I love halves. Is this a Solomon Hinkley? I don't know. No, I'm not asking you. I'm just asking it out loud.

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Chapter 2: How does the idea of dual coaching roles impact team dynamics?

33.359 - 48.786 Tim Watson

Right. Is this the Solomon Hinkley that has been touted from time to time, a combination? I always thought they were chasing Kenny to be the footy manager kind of thing. Me too. Behind a coach, whoever the coach might be. But am I now led to believe that there might be a thinking that two people could share the job?

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48.766 - 68.109 Garry Lyon

Well, they're making it sound like they are making moves around there. Craig Vozzo, the former CEO, has been out there trying to work out, okay, where's the game headed in five to ten years? Maybe this is what they think they're going to get ahead of the curve and have a completely different coaching setup. I'll ask you this question. That is bizarre. How could you see this working?

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68.189 - 89.537 Tim Watson

I couldn't. Yeah. I couldn't because – And I'm not against people pushing the boundaries here, but I'm firmly of the opinion you need to have one man and one man in charge and for the players to have no doubt about who the bloke in charge of the team is. And there's a team over in Perth who have gone about it in a different way as well. And they're called Fremantle.

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89.898 - 99.533 Tim Watson

And they decided to put Justin Longmuir on a roll and contract him rather than, you know, like an employment contract, rather than contract him for two, three, four, five years, which has been the case.

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99.793 - 102.297 Garry Lyon

This was greeted with positivity, though, when they did this, was it not?

102.277 - 118.749 Tim Watson

These are some of the things that were said at the time. It's farcical. It's a PR stunt gone wrong. Someone else said, I don't understand why you would extend a coach's tenure for one year. It doesn't do anything. Another one says it's almost a death sentence. They're on top of the ladder. They've lost one game and they might not lose another game in the home and away season.

119.45 - 139.359 Tim Watson

So there are ways to do it differently. Just because members of the media think it doesn't work. We don't get it right, let me tell you. And Fremantle, in this instance, you have to say at this point, the way they've dealt with Justin Longmuir and the way that they've kept him contracted or kept him tied to their club on an employment contract as opposed to the old has worked spectacularly.

139.379 - 140.14 Garry Lyon

It's worked for him.

140.16 - 140.761 Tim Watson

Spectacularly.

Chapter 3: What are the implications of Fremantle's coaching approach on the current coaching landscape?

259.608 - 271.259 Garry Lyon

Are you of the – I think you said it earlier that Essendon should rush to try and find out whether or not Josh Fraser would be interested in putting his hand up to be interviewed for the coaching position?

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271.279 - 288.295 Tim Watson

Yeah, I just think he's been so impressive, right? And he's maintained his line, his dignified line about not being ready, and that's fantastic. And he repeated it again last night. And Chris Davies has said, well, no, we're not going to push him because he said he's not ready. This is a competitive world we're in right now.

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288.515 - 303.274 Tim Watson

So if Essendon think they can turn his head, if they have any interest in him, they might not have any interest in him. Well, you know what that does? It puts pressure back on Carlton. That puts pressure on the Carlton Footy Club. It might even force them to do something that they're not ready to do yet.

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303.814 - 309.361 Tim Watson

Imagine if Essendon go, yeah, we're going to get Josh Fraser, and he says yes, and he turns out to be the greatest coach of all time. How's that going to roll?

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309.381 - 323.418 Garry Lyon

The prudent thing to be, though, for Carlton, if they're not rushed into a decision, would be to wait and just sort of see, like, For Carlton? Oh, no, for Carlton. It's an unbelievable start. 100%. And you can see the mood. You can see the way they play, the way they're connected out there on the field.

323.458 - 339.897 Garry Lyon

And then post-game, you've got an insight as to how much they appreciate and enjoy each other's company, that type of thing. But there's no need for them to rush. And maybe if they hadn't have done the Teague thing, maybe they would have rushed to make a decision. But they've already learned probably what happened to them previously.

Chapter 4: Why is there skepticism about the effectiveness of a rolling contract for coaches?

339.877 - 345.687 Garry Lyon

And there's still a way to go before they need to actually make that decision at the end of the season.

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345.707 - 358.668 Tim Watson

Well, right now they're sitting there going, we've got eight more games to observe or nine more, however many there are, to observe Josh Fraser. All I'm saying is if you're in the market for a coach and you think he's someone that could be of interest to you, then you'd ask the question, surely.

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358.808 - 359.83 Garry Lyon

Yeah, yeah.

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359.85 - 366.12 Tim Watson

But Essendon may not want to ask the question. They might have their mind made up. Matthew Lloyd last night on Pretty Classified.

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366.556 - 387.061 Andrew Welsh

He just thinks he's just a massive threat for him and how much the players respect him, value him. Based on what? Based on half a season as an assistant coach after coming off the board. Yeah, well, he's known him for 20 years, so that's his prerogative to choose, I suppose, along with other people within Essendon. I'm just giving you the answer and the question for you.

387.081 - 393.829 Andrew Welsh

I'm not saying it's right, but that's how he views Dean Solomon and how he feels people within the club view Dean Solomon.

393.809 - 402.481 Tim Watson

I'm assuming he is Andrew Welsh. Andrew Welsh, yeah. So that's strong, strong support from influential Western people.

402.501 - 409.07 Garry Lyon

Yeah, they have to run, in my opinion though, they have to run a non-polluted search for the next coach.

409.09 - 413.456 Tim Watson

You've been very consistent on that. Let's take a break. We can get back into this after some news headlines.

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