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Shameless

Let Rod do what he wants!

19 Jun 2026

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Chapter 1: Why are Rod's fans upset?

0.031 - 3.637 Michelle Andrews

Okay, so I have been banned from bringing snippets to pre-dinner mints.

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4.198 - 20.006 Zara McDonald

This will mean nothing to the average listener. They'll be like, a what to a what? A snippet, like a, and for example. You can't bring separate audio and play audio from other places before the show's even begun. We haven't even begun talking before we play other people talking.

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20.026 - 36.38 Michelle Andrews

Okay, so all I want to say is I fully intended to bring a little snippet for this episode. a thing I wanted to talk to you about, but I've been banned. But did you hear the theory from Tim Blackwell? Local radio presenter. Nova FM, who said he thinks Taylor Swift is already married.

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37.041 - 48.387 Zara McDonald

Yes, you sent this to me and initially I thought, why would I trust Tim Blackwell? No disrespect to the Tims of the world. Oh, totally. It's not like Tim knows Taylor. He just didn't strike me as a Taylor Swift correspondent.

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48.708 - 63.07 Michelle Andrews

And yet. And yet. So he says that on the 6th of June, there were fireworks outside her Rhode Island house. Correct. Then he said that the 6th of the 6th, 26th, Equals 2038.

64.551 - 76.843 Zara McDonald

And then if you plus 2038. It's 13. It equals 13. Her lucky number, if anyone's confused about that, Taylor Swift has always felt an affinity for the number 13. And it's the only week that Travis Kelsey's taken off new heights.

76.923 - 78.405 Michelle Andrews

Apparently. This is what Tim Blackwell says.

78.545 - 102.296 Zara McDonald

Yes. He said the only episode Travis and his brother Jason had ever taken off their regular programming was the 6th of June. Do you think this is true? It checks out. I just, I cannot believe I missed the episode. The episode you guys spoke about her potentially getting married at Madison Square Garden. I missed that because I was dealing with my little sister. Oh, yes.

102.576 - 114.049 Zara McDonald

And I can't deal with that because I really wanted to weigh in on that conversation. There is absolutely no fucking way she's getting married at Madison Square Garden. I would bet every single thing I own.

Chapter 2: What happened with Molly-Mae and Tommy Fury's baby name announcement?

114.329 - 122.726 Zara McDonald

Mark my words. Play this back to me. There's no way she's getting married. And if she is, I don't know her and I've been misled.

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122.746 - 128.131 Michelle Andrews

But you didn't answer the question. Is she already married? I don't think she is, but I think it's a compelling theory.

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128.671 - 136.88 Zara McDonald

I think it's a brilliant theory. I think the fireworks out the front of her Rhode Island home, she would get married at that home. I don't see her getting married in New York.

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137.14 - 144.318 Michelle Andrews

I really, truly don't. I think it's been a red herring this whole time. How many more times do you think we can bring up the rumours? Until we find out the truth.

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144.579 - 153.135 Zara McDonald

Until we know she has been wedded. Until we find out the truth. And also, if you're listening to this show, you know we talk about celebrity. And we all care. I think we all care.

153.196 - 169.742 Michelle Andrews

No, 100% of people listening care. Even the people who think they don't care, you are mistaken. I need you all to know just before we properly get into the show that I'm wearing a scarf that's about to suffocate me and is covering the entire mic and Michelle's microphone is on a lean and she's holding it up.

169.763 - 185.325 Zara McDonald

It's been trying to collapse into her face this entire conversation. We're the Scarf Sisters. I'm just going to, if you're watching this on video, because now all of our episodes are videos. I am joking, but I don't have, I must leave it on. And they're both inbuilt to our. No, no, no. Oh, yours is an additional scarf.

185.345 - 186.006 Michelle Andrews

Mine's a standalone.

186.026 - 216.189 Zara McDonald

It looks like a furry cat. I know. Has wrapped itself around your neck and is nuzzling you. I have one of those scarf attached to jacket combinations. All right. See you in there, I guess. Hello and welcome to Shameless, the pop culture podcast. Sorry, I was adjusting her cat scarf. Leave it alone. I love it.

Chapter 3: What recommendations were shared this week?

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235.572 - 241.177 Zara McDonald

You're joined, as always, by Melbourne writers Michelle Andrews, that would be me, and Zara McDonald, that would be you.

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241.217 - 253.328 Michelle Andrews

Hello, Michelle Andrews. It is Dumb Stuff Fridays, and so therefore it's fitting that we're both being choked by scarves. Coming up on today's show, Rod Stewart appeared at the World Cup, and that is controversial.

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253.528 - 258.953 Zara McDonald

Well, he let down tens of thousands of fans in the process. Cannot wait to talk about that. Rod Stewart.

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260.535 - 278.254 Michelle Andrews

What a man. Anyway... What else? Molly May and Tommy Fury had a baby. Midas. Midas touch. Midas touch. Everything he touches turns to gold. And we wanted to talk about the way that Tommy Fury announced the baby name and also the way that the baby name was leaked to a couple of girls in Ibiza.

278.694 - 288.445 Zara McDonald

By a loved one close to Molly and Tommy. Yep. And so then we thought, why not ask you guys, the listeners, when has a loved one...

289.623 - 309.891 Michelle Andrews

Ruined your surprise, ruined your reveal. Elite True News. Before we get into any of it, a quick shout out to our sponsor, Elite 11, activewear and loungewear for every version of you. Thank you to Elite 11 for making this possible. My new tracksuit from Elite 11 is one of my favourite things in the entire world. You look very good in that tracksuit. It's tracksuit weather in Melbourne.

309.951 - 313.236 Michelle Andrews

Tell me, what are you recommending today? I have two recommendations.

313.336 - 332.293 Zara McDonald

Gobble, gobble. They are completely different. kinds of content from each other. They're both podcasts though. The first podcast I want to recommend is Emily Kaiser on Jay Shetty's On Purpose podcast. I haven't listened to many Jay Shetty interviews before, but I thought he did a really decent job of this chat with Emily Kaiser.

Chapter 4: How does Rod Stewart's concert cancellation affect his fans?

509.679 - 513.443 Michelle Andrews

The Emily Kaiser one for sure. That one you've just recommended. Olivia Wilde on Call Her Daddy.

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513.543 - 528.461 Zara McDonald

I need to listen to Olivia Wilde. I've just got this like bank of stuff. I know. It's exciting. Anyway, I super recommend that. I promise you it is not trashy. It is scintillating and juicy but very introspective and interesting content. Wonderful.

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528.682 - 540.438 Michelle Andrews

You? So obviously the last week has been big in my household because it's just been Olivia Rodrigo's new album week. When I say in my household, I just mean in my ears. Yes. And you have a problem with this because you hate happiness?

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540.458 - 546.467 Zara McDonald

No, no, no. I love the album. This is the thing that I need people to know about Olivia Rodrigo. I love her. I love her music.

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546.928 - 549.892 Michelle Andrews

Do they want to see your Slack messages where you banned me from talking about it on the show?

549.952 - 554.018 Zara McDonald

I just think we've spoken about this album so many times now.

554.358 - 572.102 Michelle Andrews

We haven't. Anyway, so the album came out, You Seem Pretty Sad for a Girl So in Love. I think I was right. I do think the album title was meant to be love and then it had to change. Not that that is in any – oh, belly is shaking your head in the corner. Shaken, shaken, shaken. It's a really good album. It is. Easily my favourite album of hers.

572.203 - 587.695 Michelle Andrews

I think the thing I like so much – also, I'm not recommending the album. I'm recommending an interview that she did on Zane Lowe's podcast. About the album, if that helps. But with music generally, I am not a music aficionado. I always never say that word right.

587.735 - 591.444 Zara McDonald

Can you say that word again? Aficionado. I think you add in Nando as in Nando's.

Chapter 5: What was the reaction to Rod Stewart at the World Cup?

591.725 - 614.781 Michelle Andrews

Nothing to do with chicken. Aficionado. Aficionado's. But the one thing I like most about music is the storytelling. As you speak, you keep stroking your scarf to stop it from entering your mouth. I know. I like storytelling. I'm obsessed with listening to lyrics and trying to crack a story.

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615.181 - 625.494 Michelle Andrews

And if there's one thing she makes very easy on this album, it's how to crack the story of what she's trying to say. If you haven't listened to this album, listen to it from start to end because it's basically a concept album.

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625.574 - 628.037 Zara McDonald

It's a beautiful album to listen to beginning to end.

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628.057 - 644.88 Michelle Andrews

There is one story that kind of tracks from start to end. It's clearly her relationship with Louis Partridge. And I genuinely believe, Louis aside, any woman in her early 20s Who's been in love or going through a breakup should listen to this because I think it is a perfect encapsulation of like what that experience is like.

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Are they back together?

646.422 - 654.615 Michelle Andrews

No, absolutely not. So I remember that they were getting back together. Probably on Poo Crave. I probably got poo craved. I got pooed. No, definitely not. And if you listen to her interviews about it.

654.764 - 661.357 Zara McDonald

Did he like, yeah, there are some songs where I'm like, oh, it sounds like he was doing the bare minimum. Begged? Is that the name of the song?

661.437 - 676.806 Michelle Andrews

Yeah, Begged. Begged is one of my favorites. That is really about her feeling like she needed to ask for things. But she also is very self-aware about her insecurities. She talks a lot about her like, quote unquote, endless well of needs. That's a quote from the song. Whether or not that's like a sarcastic thing.

677.647 - 684.255 Michelle Andrews

Like you acted like I had an endless... Or she's being honest about the fact she had an endless well of needs as kind of up to interpretation.

Chapter 6: When did family members leak personal information?

823.832 - 844.965 Michelle Andrews

Like I couldn't get transported fast enough. Okay. I think the thing about Fourth Wing and Silver Elite and now Broken Dove is that I really can, the world building is so convincing that I find myself there. Wow. And when I think it's been busy with work recently, the idea that you can go home and fully enter a different world is one of the most calming things you can do for your brain.

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845.485 - 847.127 Michelle Andrews

One final question before we move on. Yes.

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847.468 - 851.693 Zara McDonald

How many fucking pages is it? Because every time I pick up a fantasy book, it's like bigger than the Bible.

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851.713 - 856.8 Michelle Andrews

I don't know because I did it on Kindle, maybe like 600 or so. That's too many. Sorry. But you flew through it?

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857.621 - 863.348 Zara McDonald

Yeah, because it's so good. Sexy? Of course. I said final question and then I kept asking more.

863.488 - 865.371 Michelle Andrews

Yeah, but you will always ask about the sex.

866.272 - 868.155 Zara McDonald

Well, I just think it's an important part of the story.

868.175 - 869.316 Michelle Andrews

It's okay if it's not for you though.

870.005 - 883.33 Zara McDonald

I won't read it, but I know lots of listeners will enjoy you speaking to it. And I love that so many people in the office have a little club that I am now excluded from. The Broken Dove Club. Yeah, everyone keeps talking and I'm like, where?

Chapter 7: How do listeners feel about leaked personal news?

1030.112 - 1044.585 Zara McDonald

Following treatment, I'm feeling much better, but my voice is not. I'm very disappointed and sincerely apologise for any inconvenience to my fans. I did everything I could to make the show happen tonight, but unfortunately it just wasn't possible. I will do my utmost to reschedule.

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1044.865 - 1051.431 Michelle Andrews

Okay, so fair enough. The man's sick. He's got laryngitis. He's 81. He can't sing and perform. The concert's cancelled. And let me say...

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1051.58 - 1058.513 Zara McDonald

I am someone prone to laryngitis. If you're confused what laryngitis is, it is the condition where you completely lose your voice.

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1058.533 - 1080.391 Michelle Andrews

Yeah. And randomly, I think you've given that to me, even though it's not contagious because Belly's had it too. Okay. Well, if we're going with that, you gave me endometriosis. Okay, fine. Well, you also gave me anxiety. Because I wasn't anxious until I met you. I'm not anxious anymore. I know. It's funny. Anyway, whatever. We just swapped. We swapped. I'm sorry for giving you laryngitis.

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1080.411 - 1083.216 Michelle Andrews

No, there must be something in the talking. We just don't shut the fuck up.

1083.236 - 1103.631 Zara McDonald

We don't shut the fuck up. And when I get sick, I'm always like, fucking hell, my voice is going to go. And then I have a whole day where I have no voice. Anyway, it's a burden I must carry through this life. So I feel a bit of sympathy. I'm like... Laryngitis is tough. You simply could not do a concert with laryngitis. It would be impossible. Impossible. Impossible. Okay. Sure.

1104.052 - 1125.481 Zara McDonald

Only the day after this. So he cancels it that night, like the concert's supposed to be on. Following morning... He's posting a video on Instagram. He's yelling at the World Cup. And he's on a private chat with his two sons. He is speaking to the camera. Oh, I missed this part. Is he speaking to the camera? He's very rejuvenated.

1125.521 - 1152.064 Rod Stewart

Here's what he said. Here we are flying off to Boston to see Scotland in the World Cup. It's been 28 years. So these kids, I've told them about it, but they've never been. I've been to seven World Cups. So this one... Where have you been? Where have you been? I've been to Argentina, I've been to Germany, I've been to France, Italy, Mexico... That's six. This is a 7-7. Oh, okay, yeah.

1152.084 - 1155.87 Rod Stewart

We want him to get through to the next round and I'll die happy.

Chapter 8: What are the implications of celebrity privacy in the media?

1183.822 - 1208.035 Zara McDonald

Of course. People were very grumpy. This was one comment left by fan Paula. Hey Rod, lost a little respect for you cancelling your concert the night before, disappointing a stadium full of people. Hard to believe you really had laryngitis. You sound like you have a lot of a voice to me. I used to really like you, but when I say I lost a little respect, I mean a lot of respect.

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1208.055 - 1224.13 Zara McDonald

We also had this from Jen. My three sons took my 82 year old mother out of her nursing facility and drove to San Diego last night. Thanks for crushing an 82 year old and three young men's dreams who wanted to share that moment with her. You suck.

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1224.633 - 1243.587 Michelle Andrews

Okay, well, I'm sure the three young men are okay. The 82-year-old has to be taken out of the nursing facility for the concert. That's a bit. And also Trump card. I don't care you're 81. I've got an 82-year-old. That's the thing. What are the chances this woman was actually like 80 or 81, but we had to just age her up by a year to be older than Rod?

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1243.567 - 1245.911 Zara McDonald

Did you see the photos and videos of him at the World Cup?

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1245.931 - 1254.644 Michelle Andrews

He looks like he's yelling. He's having a grand old time. You can't go to the World Cup and not open your mouth to celebrate and yell, go.

1256.367 - 1279.192 Zara McDonald

You know? I will say, though, I think Rod has done his fans wrong here. He has fucked up. But I also truly on some level believe if you're over the age of I'm going to go with 78, my cutoff is 78. I don't care that you do wrong. If you're 78 and you're just doing what you want to do and being selfish, you deserve that.

1279.212 - 1289.097 Michelle Andrews

Well, that's kind of why I want to keep doing the show until we're 78 because I honestly think by that point there's nothing you can do to get yourself cancelled. Oh, maybe something, but not a lot.

1289.117 - 1294.526 Zara McDonald

For a show called Shameless, I think I respect the utter shamelessness of this.

1294.686 - 1302.379 Michelle Andrews

He's not apologising. No, of course not. Why would he? I think the private jet video was perhaps a mistake. He could have just gone to the World Cup and been like, you don't know that I wasn't speaking.

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