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Shameless

Perrie Edwards, Jesy Nelson and a five-year-old feud

14 Jun 2026

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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?

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I can't stop thinking about what Doja Cat tweeted about Elon Musk, like, probably like three weeks ago now. That's what I sometimes think, like, we're too hard on ourselves to be quick to stories. But like, no, I was quick to this and then I read it and I was like, oh my god, what a niche. This is vicious, by the way. I'm not endorsing anyone.

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talking about anyone else in the way Doja Cat has written this tweet. But she has received 408,000 likes. Wow. And it has stuck in my memory just because of the nicheness of the insult ever since.

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32.252 - 34.714 Zara McDonald

Was it also 408,000 likes on Twitter?

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35.675 - 39.519 Zara McDonald

Yeah, which Elon runs. So that's probably 100 million likes.

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It's like rocking up to his house and giving him the most eviscerating niche. I haven't seen this. I'll read it, but again, I don't. You don't endorse it. I don't endorse it. I just think it's the nichest insult I've ever read. She's grumpy because he took an audio feature off Twitter. That's the context you need. I'm not going to read you the first line. Thanks, you frog-billed bitch.

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Barrel-chested Ewok. You look like you eat sand. Oh! You look like you eat sand. You're such a niche insult. And people loved it. I mean, it got retweeted 45,000 times. You look like you eat sand.

74.627 - 89.927 Zara McDonald

What's the most niche insult you've ever got? Do you know someone accidentally responded to my Instagram story this week instead of sending it to their friends? No. With an insult about both of us. Oh, I thought about going back and then I thought –

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No, I'll do better. I'll blast them. You know what?

Chapter 2: What insights does Perrie Edwards share about her relationship with Jesy Nelson?

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Was it? This came out in 2017. Oh. I know this because I went on a deep dive to be like, was this inspired by the Zayn Malik, Gigi Hadid of it all? And I believe it probably was. They won the Brit Award for that song in 2017. The breakup happened in 2015. Black magic. Black magic. I never got into, I didn't like black magic personally. What about Secret Love Song?

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Do you remember that one with Jason Derulo? That's a Jason Derulo. That's a great song. I love that song. That's a great song. It's a good song. Perrie Edwards in that song hits notes that should be impossible to hear.

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609.544 - 628.763 Zara McDonald

Well, for you and I, they kind of are. Okay, so Jessie Nelson left the band in December 2020. At the time, she said in a statement, the truth is that recently being in the band has really taken a toll on my mental health. I find the constant pressure of being in a girl group and living up to expectations very hard. She went on to wholeheartedly wish her bandmates well.

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629.047 - 636.515 Zara McDonald

The remaining Little Mix members did the same. I was going to say Little Members. Little Members. It all seemed pretty amicable publicly.

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Yeah, Little Mix continued to make music and tour as a trio until they announced that they were taking a break in December 2021. That statement read in part, we are not splitting up. Little Mix is here to stay. We have plans for more music, tours and performances in the future. We've made so many incredible memories with you all and we can't wait to make so many more.

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It's kind of how bands soft launch their breakups.

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I know, but them saying we are not splitting up is pretty emphatic to say we're not splitting up. Others just say we're going on hiatus. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, over the last few years, all four of the girls have released solo music to varying degrees of success, which is what you see with bands. Yeah. It's always the case. Always the case.

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Now, it also appears that the last remaining three members of the band, Perry, Leigh-Anne and Jade, seem to be on good terms. And when we say seem to be on good terms, our measure of that is they seem to comment on each other's Instagram posts.

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No, these three seem close. Like I really do back that these three are very good friends still.

Chapter 3: What emotional struggles did Jessie Nelson face during her time in Little Mix?

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And she's not the only bandmate who has. Leigh-Anne spoke about this in a memoir. It's been covered in various places by various bandmates. I guess all of that said, there is still an emotional side of this that isn't as pragmatic or logical within me that says I cannot fathom what Jessie Nelson is living through day by day right now.

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I don't think anyone can fathom unless you are in the situation of having twin premature babies with that level of need and that level of anxiety disability, I still, my heart still aches for Jessie Nelson, even if it's not very logical to say, I'm not sure this is helpful right now in this place that she's currently in.

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2218.84 - 2237.844 Zara McDonald

Yeah, I think it's one of those cases where you probably can't sit too firmly in one camp. Like I don't think you can come out and say Perry simply can't talk about this right now because Jessie's going through a really difficult time. But just as equally you can't take the quotes from Perry without considering that Jessie's going through quite a difficult time. Yeah.

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Chapter 4: How did the dynamics within Little Mix change after Jesy Nelson's departure?

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So I feel I agree with you. It was one of those things when we saw it all come out, I was like, oh, it's a lot. But then I'm like someone has spoken about you incessantly.

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For a long time now, five years.

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It doesn't erase, like Jessie going through this tough time, awful time, does not erase what has happened on Perry's side of the fence. She did also, Perry did touch on the SMA diagnosis in her interview with Jamie Lang. Here's what she had to say about it.

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2262.682 - 2285.299 Perrie Edwards

Everything we've been through as a group, and even though it ended in ways that I wouldn't have wanted it to, and we're not that close anymore, and we're not in each other's lives, I still feel everything that the girls feel. And I think they're the same. We'll always have that weird connection. And seeing Jessie go through that, it broke me. Because you wouldn't wish that on anyone.

2285.319 - 2298.344 Perrie Edwards

It's literally wild. Yeah. And as much as we've got our issues and, you know, I think I don't want to see her go through that. I don't want to see her hurt and I don't want to see any of that. It's heartbreaking.

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It's messy. It's really messy. After the break, let's talk about something that was also kind of messy. Yeah. The Zayn Gigi Perry of it all. First word from today's sponsor.

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mish after i heard that every summer after was being adapted into every year after i knew it was going to be the kind of show that i was going to be obsessed with it's really giving girls night i feel like we should get together get a bunch of snacks sit in front of your tv and watch it absolutely at the center of the story is percy and sam exploring the question what if your first love was actually your soul mate i also love that they reconnect every summer and share three updates about their lives

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Catch Every Year After now exclusively on Prime Video. And thank you so much to Prime Video for making this episode of Shameless possible.

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