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#164 Mike Grover - How Hacking Tools Are Changing Cyber Warfare

29 Jan 2025

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Mike Grover is a security researcher, InfoSec expert, and the creator of the infamous O.MG Cable. He gained prominence in 2019 when he showcased his malicious USB cable prototype at DEF CON, capable of recording keystrokes and executing remote commands. Grover's O.MG Cable looks identical to a regular charging cable, but contains a tiny implant that creates a Wi-Fi hotspot, allowing attackers to access the connected device from up to 300 feet away. Since its inception, Grover has refined the O.MG Cable design, making it indistinguishable from normal USB cables and expanding its capabilities. The latest iteration includes features such as geofencing, self-destruct mechanisms, and support for various connector types including Lightning and USB-C. Grover's work aims to raise awareness about hardware security risks while providing tools for red teams and security researchers to test and improve organizational defenses. Shawn Ryan Show Sponsors: https://ROKA.com | Use Code SRS https://ExpressVPN.com/SRS https://ZipRecruiter.com/SRS https://RocketMoney.com/SRS https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/SRS https://ShawnLikesGold.com | 855-936-GOLD #goldcopartner https://americanfinancing.net/srs NMLS 182334, nmlsconsumeraccess.org. Call 866-781-8900 for details about credit costs and terms. Mike Grover Links: Website - https://o.mg.lol/ X - https://x.com/_MG_ LinkedIn - linkedin.com/in/mgrover Please leave us a review on Apple & Spotify Podcasts. Vigilance Elite/Shawn Ryan Links: Website | Patreon | TikTok | Instagram | Download Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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35.134 - 37.314 Shawn Ryan

Mike Grover, welcome to the show, man.

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37.774 - 39.155 Mike Ritland

Thanks. Thanks for having me, dude.

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39.355 - 58.358 Shawn Ryan

We just knocked out one of the most fascinating everyday carry pocket dumps I've ever seen. And the fact that you designed all that hardware is just astounding. It's awesome. Thank you. So we got connected through a mutual friend, Bryce Case Jr.

58.378 - 58.958 Mike Ritland

Yeah.

59.298 - 67.91 Shawn Ryan

And thank you, Bryce. And man, we've been trying to make this happen for... I think a year, over a year.

68.05 - 68.931 Mike Ritland

Yeah, over a year now.

69.551 - 99.78 Shawn Ryan

So, yeah, because I interviewed, he was last year's Thanksgiving episode. And we got connected right after he told me about the OMG cable, which you developed, and we'll get into that. But real quick, let me kick it off with an intro here. Sweet. So, Mike Grover, a.k.a. M.G., You're a hacker, red teamer, entrepreneur, artist, security researcher, and educator.

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