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#192 Lee Strobel & John Burke - The Resurrection

Thu, 17 Apr 2025

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Lee Strobel is a best-selling author, journalist, and Christian apologist best known for The Case for Christ, which recounts his journey from atheism to faith. A former award-winning legal editor at the Chicago Tribune, Strobel has written over 40 books, including The Case for Faith and The Case for a Creator. He founded the Strobel Center at Colorado Christian University and continues to write, speak, and equip others to explore and share their faith. John Burke is the New York Times bestselling author of Imagine Heaven and Imagine the God of Heaven, based on his research of over 1,500 near-death experiences. A frequent speaker and media guest, John co-founded Gateway Community Church in Austin, Texas, which he led for 26 years. He now hosts “The Imagine Heaven Podcast” and continues to speak globally on faith and the afterlife. Shawn Ryan Show Sponsors: https://www.AmericanFinancing.net/SRS NMLS 182334, nmlsconsumeraccess.org https://www.identityguard.com/srs https://www.BetterHelp.com/SRS This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. Give online therapy a try at betterhelp.com/srs and get on your way to being your best self. https://www.bubsnaturals.com/SHAWN https://www.ShawnLikesGold.com https://www.drinkhoist.com - USE CODE "SRS" https://www.hometitlelock.com - USE CODE "SRS" https://www.Moinkbox.com/SRS https://www.PrepareWithShawn.com https://www.PatriotMobile.com/SRS https://www.Shopify.com/SRS Lee Strobel Links: X - https://x.com/leestrobel  Seeing the Supernatural - https://www.zondervan.com/p/seeing-the-supernatural Website - https://leestrobel.com Books - https://leestrobel.com/books Speaking - https://leestrobel.com/speaking John Burke Links: For everything John Burke, go to - https://linktr.ee/johnburkeauthor   Website - https://imagineheaven.net Podcast - https://www.youtube.com/@JohnBurkeImagineHeaven  Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/johnburkeofficial  John Burke Facebook page - https://www.facebook.com/johnburkeofficial  Imagine Heaven Facebook page: type https://www.facebook.com/imagineheavenbook Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Who are Lee Strobel and John Burke and what is their background?

60.472 - 72.182 Unidentified

So love having you guys on together. Love being here. Especially my buddy, John. We've known each other for, we were figuring over, what, 30 years? Too long. Too long. Not for you, but to be that old.

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72.922 - 98.103 Shawn Ryan

Yeah, when I found you guys together, it was off one of the documentaries you guys collaborated on. And I've just learned so much from you guys through the interviews. And it's just an honor to have you back. Thank you. Great to be back. You know, I'm going to pepper you with all kinds of questions here coming up. Yeah. I'm still new to this whole thing. But yeah, so Easter. Yeah.

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98.203 - 116.528 Shawn Ryan

And so I wanted to get you guys both back on to talk about the resurrection, what it means, what's the proof, and any other rabbit holes that we go down, which I'm sure they'll be funny. Sure we will. So yeah, yeah. But quick introduction. Yeah.

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117.583 - 140.065 Shawn Ryan

shorten it up a little bit because you guys have both been on before lee strobel new york times best-selling author over 40 books that have sold millions newest book seeing the supernatural just hit that list as well the founding director of the lee strobel center for evangelism and applied apologetics at colorado christian university

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140.666 - 163.916 Shawn Ryan

John Burke, founder of the Gateway Church in Austin, Texas, best-selling author with books like Imagine Heaven that dive into near-death experiences and what they reveal about the afterlife. And now you've just started a podcast, Imagine Heaven with John Burke. Congratulations on the podcast. Thank you. Sounds a little overwhelming. It is. I can relate.

163.936 - 169.94 John Burke

I can relate. I know. I was trying to get you to talk me out of it last time I was on the show, and you didn't.

170.3 - 196.456 Shawn Ryan

Yeah, yeah. Should have. I hope things are going really good with that. They are. I know a lot of people have questions, and I think like we both have talked about, there just seems to be this wave of Christianity just moving quick and a lot of new believers out there. Yeah, new openness. I like, it's good. Yeah. So, but, you know, everybody gets a gift, even the second appearance.

196.536 - 198.578 Shawn Ryan

So here you guys go.

199.218 - 200.879 Unidentified

Thank you. My gummy bear.

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