Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
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Okay, so I've been looking into a question from one of our listeners in Lawrenceville, Georgia, which is a suburb about 30 miles outside downtown Atlanta.
It's very pretty here in Atlanta. Lots of hills and very green when you're landing here. At the airport, you can see it's just a green canopy all over the city.
So this is Shabnam Khan. She's lived in and around the area since 1986. And clearly, she really loves the place she lives, partly because it's so lush.
Chapter 2: What is causing the increase of lizards and frogs in Shabnam's garden?
Yeah, Atlanta is beautiful. It's also subtropical, so I imagine there's lots of plants that thrive there. Exactly, which is great for Shabnam because she loves to garden. But there's one problem with her garden, Emily. A problem that's been visiting pretty regularly, that started small. A lizard here and there. And it's just not going away.
I do gardening quite a bit. And now last two or three or four years, every time I'm gardening, every time I'm working in the yard, I get scared by lizards and frogs. Oh, no. And there are many of them and lots of different varieties like stripes and like beautiful colors, but I'm still scared of them.
Shabnam told me she doesn't even want to be in her garden anymore. She's so stressed out by... this spike in garden visitors. And she says it's not uncommon for her to hear an army of frogs croaking in her neighborhood at night or to find multiple brightly colored lizards sunning on the grass. And now she's like, where did all of these come from?
It's just the quantity boggles my mind. Just the population seems to have exploded.
Today on the show, we are going on a lizard hunt. We're talking to local experts about why so many lizards and frogs are showing themselves now, and whether there's a way to manage Shabnam's clammy, scaly little problem.
You are listening to Shorewave, the science podcast from NPR. Okay, short wavers, once again, we are on a nature quest. This is our monthly segment bringing you a question from a fellow short waver who's paying attention to their local environment and how it's changing.
And this month, Emily, you and I are investigating the world of herpetology, frogs, snakes, lizards, salamanders, to help out our listener Shabnam in Georgia. I love it. Okay. So first things first, to start this nature quest, I needed to know what specific frogs and lizards Shabnam was seeing in her yard. Naturally.
There are around 180 reptiles and amphibians native to Georgia, so I kind of needed to narrow it down. So I asked her to send me some pictures. Emily, I'm sending them to you right now. Okay. Do you want to describe these little creatures for our listeners?
So this one, it's like a peacock lizard. It has this pink throat sack hanging from his little lizard head.
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Chapter 3: How do environmental changes affect local wildlife populations?
Someone is noticing their garden being frequented by more and different animals. Are there larger trends in urban wildlife? Like, can we link what's happening in Shabnam's yard to a bigger ecological rise and fall in urban lizards and frogs?
Mara told me, to some extent, yes, the shift in wildlife that we're seeing goes beyond the greater Atlanta area. It's happening in all these places that are urbanizing. Because what we gain in real estate, animals lose in habitat. Like in South Florida, where developers continue to push the Everglades boundary. or subdivisions and ranches in the greater Yellowstone area?
If you move into a given area and there's a low amount of development around you, and over time, the demand for housing increases, what that means is all of these pockets that are natural areas tend to be then taken up and developed. And what that means is that what was potentially suitable habitat for a lot of amphibians and reptiles now is no longer suitable, and those species have to move.
Right, because if they lose their habitat, then they got to go somewhere, and that somewhere could be places that people are.
Yeah, and Mara said this is just one of a few ways that human development can affect local amphibians. Another way is fragmentation.
Particularly when it comes to amphibians, these species that live in terrestrial ecosystems most of the year and breed in freshwater ecosystems. If there's now a road that is going through that connection in between, that puts a lot of species at greater risk for mortality.
Mara also mentioned human use of chemicals like pesticides that are really bad for amphibians and reptiles. And then there's the issue of the predators that humans bring with us. like outdoor cats. Mara likes to cite a 2020 study about this.
It was estimated that up to 92 million frogs were killed per year by cats in Australia. And there have been some similar studies and kind of numbers that are coming out for the United States as well. It's in the millions. And that's just frogs.
Oh, dear. That number doesn't count snakes, salamanders, lizards, other animals that are also killed by cats.
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Chapter 4: What specific species of lizards and frogs are common in Georgia?
Because there's still a big gap in local scientists' data. And that's because long-term studies monitoring the populations of these species in metro Atlanta really just don't exist. So Mara is trying to change that through community science.
So the community science program is called the Metro Atlanta Amphibian Monitoring Program, which we like to refer to as MAMP because that's quite a mouthful.
And Emily, anyone in the Metro Atlanta area can apply to be a community scientist in this MAMP program. Mara and her colleagues will train them to identify each species in the field and document their findings. And then volunteers have to take a series of quizzes to basically show that they retained all that information. This is like school. I mean, Emily, you love school. I do. It's true.
Anyway, there is an online sign-up form for trainings and program news. We'll link to it in the show notes.
And if you, like Hannah and I, are not in the metro Atlanta area, but still want to learn how to identify and document local frogs, consider seeing if you have an active local Frog Watch chapter. Search your city or state and Frog Watch USA. Thank you so much for guiding us through this month's hoppy, hippity nature quest, Hannah. Anytime, Emily.
Shortwavers, if you want to get in on this NatureQuest series, it's so easy. Look around your environment. Is anything changing? Or do you have an environmental question you want us to investigate? Well, record a memo and email it to us at shortwave at npr.org. And we may look into it for a future episode. This episode was produced by Burleigh McCoy with help from Rachel Carlson.
It was edited by Rebecca Ramirez. Tyler Jones checked the facts. The audio engineer was Jimmy Keeley. Sam Polson composed and produced our NatureQuest theme music. If you like this episode, follow us on the NPR app or wherever else you get your podcasts. I'm Emily Kwong. And I'm Hannah Chin. Thank you for listening to Shortwave from NPR.
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